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Putin: I envy Obama, because he can 'spy' and get away with it
Russia Today ^

Posted on 12/19/2013 10:48:20 AM PST by kronos77

"I envy Obama because he can spy on his allies without any consequences," said Putin when asked about how his relations had changed with the US following Snowden’s espionage revelations.

During an annual question-and-answer session with journalists, Putin praised Edward Snowden’s actions, saying that he was working for a “noble cause.” At the same time he accepted the importance of espionage programs in the fight against global terrorism, but said the NSA needed guidelines to limit its powers.

“There is nothing to be upset about and nothing to be proud of, spying has always been and is one of the oldest professions,” said Putin.

Referring to the vast amounts of metadata gathered on citizens by the NSA, Putin said it is impossible to sift through all of that information. It is “useless” to look at the analysis of spy agencies because it is the opinion of analysts and not facts and as such can be misleading.

“You need to know the people who analyze them, I know, I did it,” said Putin, harking back to his career as a KGB agent.

The Russian president described Snowden as a “curious character” and said it was not clear why the former CIA contractor had decided to blow the whistle on the NSA’s international espionage program at such a young age.

Russia is not working with Snowden and has not received classified documents from him, Putin said. The whistleblower has been allowed to reside in Russia but only on the condition he does not “engage in anti-American propaganda.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhorussia; nsa; obama; obamansa; putin; spying; surveillance
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1 posted on 12/19/2013 10:48:21 AM PST by kronos77
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To: kronos77

Hasn’t gotten out of the KGB mindset, I see. Mr. Putin, you can spy on people . . . you just can’t give them the polonium-treatment.


2 posted on 12/19/2013 10:49:58 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: kronos77

When a “former” communist strongman who was a career KGB officer says you’re more of a dictator than he is, what does that tell us? WAKE UP, SHEEPLES!!


3 posted on 12/19/2013 10:50:47 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: 1rudeboy

I beg to differ with you. He radiates good will, as it were, compared to BHO.


4 posted on 12/19/2013 10:51:37 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: kronos77

This says more about us than Obama.

Putin is shocked that Americans, the great liberators, would have allowed it.

Putin is right on. I agree.


5 posted on 12/19/2013 10:56:42 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: kronos77

I’m liking Vlad more every day.


6 posted on 12/19/2013 10:56:51 AM PST by bgill
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To: kronos77

That Putin would say such a thing and have grounds to be completely sincere is both amusing and terrifying to most (thinking) Americans.


7 posted on 12/19/2013 10:57:06 AM PST by lee martell
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To: kronos77
Putin said it is impossible to sift through all of that information. It is “useless” to look at the analysis of spy agencies because it is the opinion of analysts and not facts and as such can be misleading

Am sensing a putin lie.

8 posted on 12/19/2013 10:57:11 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: kronos77

Well Vlad, now you know what he meant by having “more flexibility” after the election. Then, he had to endure some scrutiny; now he can do whatever he wants to.


9 posted on 12/19/2013 11:00:02 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Internet venting diffuses our outrage to do anything.

Our parents would have handled this by now already.

We type about it, instead.


10 posted on 12/19/2013 11:00:57 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: kronos77
Putin is and always has been a liar.

Why would anyone believe what this KGB operative says? Believe the opposite.

11 posted on 12/19/2013 11:02:28 AM PST by what's up
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To: RitaOK

Guess that is why dhs continues to deplete the shelves of ammo.


12 posted on 12/19/2013 11:06:59 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals
Putin said it is impossible to sift through all of that information.

That implies that the NSA is going to sift the data rather than go directly after enemies of the state like tea partiers, right wing talk show hosts and opposition politicians.

13 posted on 12/19/2013 11:09:05 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: bgill
I’m liking Vlad more every day.

As I posted on another thread. I don't know what is more disconcerting: fat women fainting at Obama rallies, or FReepers fainting on Putin threads.

14 posted on 12/19/2013 11:10:46 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: kronos77

Hey, Putie, don’t envy him.

You may be an old-style KGB guy at heart, but you are a MANLY old-style KGB guy, unlike the stylized wimp in the White House.


15 posted on 12/19/2013 11:11:43 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: KarlInOhio

Sense a really good chance putin is covering for zer0 and his crowd while putin licks his chops at the feast placed before him ... thanks to zer0 and his crowd. Snowden is starting to look like a pawn which was being thought of prior. Hey putin ... bet you have a lot of misinformation and zer0 tried to shaft you. Bend over putin! zer0 thinks you are reggie.


16 posted on 12/19/2013 11:14:18 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: ZULU

Smelling an end run. putin thinks Snowden was right up the middle.


17 posted on 12/19/2013 11:16:11 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: 1rudeboy

Who would you put your trust in? Putin or Obama? Which do you think would rescue you from a burning building. Which would you rather walk down a dark street with? If you only had those two to leave your kids with, which one? Silly questions, perhaps, but I’m going with Putin and you can go with Obama.


18 posted on 12/19/2013 11:17:59 AM PST by bgill
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To: bgill
And that is precisely what some FReepers fail to understand. The correct answer is: NEITHER.

I blame a general ignorance of Russia, and Russian politics.

19 posted on 12/19/2013 11:19:41 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: bgill
Silly questions, perhaps, but I’m going with Putin and you can go with Obama.

I'll go with Netanyahu, thank you very much.

20 posted on 12/19/2013 11:19:54 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: bgill; 1rudeboy
Get real ... why trust either.

My apology 1rudeboy.

21 posted on 12/19/2013 11:20:12 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: 1rudeboy
I blame a general ignorance of Russia, and Russian politics.

Churchill's words are just as true today, as they were back then....

"I cannot forecast to you the action of Russia. It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma; but perhaps there is a key. That key is Russian national interest."

22 posted on 12/19/2013 11:21:37 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: no-to-illegals

I am not daring anyone to be foolish, but hand and long guns are as good as forks in this new tech climate.

Especially when we can stay content to peck out our troubles on the internet.

Hell, Republicans and conservatives alike can’t even bring themselves to jerk their own children out of public schools. LOL! Sports, don’tcha know, and all that.

The wellspring crushing the USA for two generations at least, is the public school.


23 posted on 12/19/2013 11:24:08 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Obama politics is better?


24 posted on 12/19/2013 11:24:16 AM PST by bgill
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To: RitaOK

May or may not be absolute. I for one never count out Americans because they are me and mine and yours.


25 posted on 12/19/2013 11:26:25 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: bgill

Give it up ... don’t make many of US angry.


26 posted on 12/19/2013 11:27:03 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: dfwgator
Again, precisely why it is disconcerting to watch FReepers fawn over someone whose interests do not regard the United States.

Let's face it . . . we are stuck with Obama. That doesn't mean we need to admire someone who Obama aspires to be.

27 posted on 12/19/2013 11:27:23 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: bgill

Fair warning ...


28 posted on 12/19/2013 11:28:05 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: what's up

5 and 10, up thread, is the the Putin message, in spades.

The people are ripe now, for more coming if we can not stop even the outrageous.


29 posted on 12/19/2013 11:30:15 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: what's up

5 and 10, up thread, is the the Putin message, in spades.

The people are ripe now, for more coming if we can not stop even the outrageous.


30 posted on 12/19/2013 11:30:15 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: bgill
neither, pronoun

not the one and not the other of two people or things

31 posted on 12/19/2013 11:30:26 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: no-to-illegals

They WERE Americans. Now we live off their reputations and the history of our forefathers and our elders, but WE are doing basically nothing but filling chat rooms.

We are diffused. Putin has noticed it.

So have I.


32 posted on 12/19/2013 11:35:08 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: kronos77

Dear Mr. Putin :
Obama can do anything and get away with it.
He supplied guns to Mexican cartels. He sent guns to anti-Christian rebel Al Qaeda.
He took the sanctions off Iran
He is taking a 2 week vacation in Hawaii while the rest of us get screwed by Obamacare.
He homosexualized our Military.
He has killed more soldier in Afghanistan than ever got killed in Iran, and the media no longer keeps score like they did for Bush.

Now his suck butts Ryan and Murray are going to phuck over our retired soldiers retirement benefits. Right here at Christmas too.


33 posted on 12/19/2013 11:35:58 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: RitaOK

NO ... sorry Rita ... NOT TRUE!!! Guess again.


34 posted on 12/19/2013 11:37:32 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: kronos77

Some among us are so desperate about their patriotism that they must say to themselves that Putin is worse than Obama. I don’t know that any country’s leader could be worse. Worse for their own country. Read Daniel Henninger in today’s WSJ.


35 posted on 12/19/2013 11:37:39 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!
Some among us are so desperate about their patriotism that they must say to themselves that Putin is worse than Obama.

Name one.

36 posted on 12/19/2013 11:39:10 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Revolting cat!

Still Love Ice Cream.


37 posted on 12/19/2013 11:39:34 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: RitaOK
Putin will say whatever he can to bash the West any way in any circumstance.

People are foolish to EVER believe ANYTHING he says.

Russia has not received classified info from Snowden? Riiiiiiight.

38 posted on 12/19/2013 11:42:38 AM PST by what's up
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To: 1rudeboy
Name one.

As my grandmother used to say, pound on the table, and the scissors will speak back. (That was when scissors were all metal, not this recent plastic handle crap.)

39 posted on 12/19/2013 11:43:29 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: what's up

At best putin has a guess ... and only a guess.


40 posted on 12/19/2013 11:44:28 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Revolting cat!

And as my father would’ve said, don’t say anything unless you have the balls to say everything.


41 posted on 12/19/2013 11:50:20 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: what's up

Of course, Putin is all you say.

You can miss the point of what he said, if you wish. Even when Putin has lumbered into the truth you are welcome to miss the point.

The point:

“....that he (Obama) was allowed to.”


42 posted on 12/19/2013 11:58:24 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: no-to-illegals

I certainly hope you are right, and that the people might have more than forks. Technology has made traditional defenses quite obsolete.

We are left over run, with only a ballot.


43 posted on 12/19/2013 12:02:38 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: RitaOK

Never count US out Rita! {{HUGS}}


44 posted on 12/19/2013 12:04:10 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: RitaOK
You're giving credibility to what "Russia Today" has to say even in the light of the fact that Putin expanded state run media a couple weeks ago.

What a dictator! What a guy!

45 posted on 12/19/2013 12:07:49 PM PST by what's up
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To: no-to-illegals

Yes, yes. Smooches all around. %./


46 posted on 12/19/2013 12:09:21 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: RitaOK

Thanks Rita.


47 posted on 12/19/2013 12:10:16 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: kronos77; a fool in paradise
All I need to know is that he loves puppies.


48 posted on 12/19/2013 12:10:42 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: what's up

I don’t know what you’re talking about now, but it is not anywhere near the point I was making ....once again. Nor even the point Putin was making.

Buh bye.


49 posted on 12/19/2013 12:13:33 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: no-to-illegals

:)


50 posted on 12/19/2013 12:14:17 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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