Skip to comments.A&E not oppressing Phil Robertson with suspension
Posted on 12/19/2013 5:49:34 PM PST by Battle Hymn of the Republic
I'm tired of people getting in trouble for expressing their opinions, popular or not. A person should say what they believe, and we should support their right to say it, whether we disagree or not. This is America. Then again, I don't own a company that depends on revenue generated by quirky Louisiana duck hunters, who look like ZZ Top and believe homosexuality is wrong and Southern blacks were a lot happier back in the good old days.
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ROBERTSON FAMILY STATEMENT ON Duck commander website at 7pm
We want to thank all of you for your prayers and support. The family has spent much time in prayer since learning of A&Es decision. We want you to know that first and foremost we are a family rooted in our faith in God and our belief that the Bible is His word. While some of Phils unfiltered comments to the reporter were coarse, his beliefs are grounded in the teachings of the Bible. Phil is a Godly man who follows what the Bible says are the greatest commandments: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and Love your neighbor as yourself. Phil would never incite or encourage hate.We are disappointed that Phil has been placed on hiatus for expressing his faith, which is his constitutionally protected right.We have had a successful working relationship with A&E but, as a family, we cannot imagine the show going forward without our patriarch at the helm. We are in discussions with A&E to see what that means for the future of Duck Dynasty. Again, thank you for your continued support of our family.
Ole Phil can say anything he wants. This is not a freedom of speech issue as A&E is not the gov’t and can take any action they want.
I hope and pray A&E pays dearly for this unfair action on their part.
>> This is not a freedom of speech issue
It is certainly a freedom of speech issue.
I figured they would stick together. A&E made a big mistake.
as a family, we cannot imagine the show going forward without our patriarch at the helm. We are in discussions with A&E to see what that means for the future of Duck Dynasty.
What is there to discuss?
That’s a terrific stand the family is taking. Screw A&E!
My understanding is the family was already cheesed off at A&E because they added bleeps to simulate vulgarity.
I would like DD to be on a network that didn’t feel the need to try to paint good folks as vulgar.
That should be a post of its own.
Thanks for posting it.
“He ain’t from around here.”
I cant find that you have a link?
It is certainly a freedom of speech issue.
Actually, while I see it as a First Amendment issue, I do not see it as a speech issue as much as a religion issue and discrimination based on religion is illegal by an employer.
A&E was well aware of this family's deeply held religious beliefs and unless they had a clause in the contract forbidding interviews with other outlets, A&E is not going to come out the winner here.
They already have the next season filmed, so the “suspension” is ludicrous. They’re probably discussing how to put an end to the show on that cable channel.
Liberals cannot fathom people who won't sell out their principles for money and power. After all, they do it all the time.
I suspect there are quite a few networks who would love to get that show.
I've heard this wrong sentiment expressed on The Five tonight. If one goes to work and, when asked, say they believe homosexuality is OK, there is no repercussions. If one goes to work (in many places) and, when asked, say that they believe homosexuality is wrong, you stand a very good chance of being demoted, past over, or even fire (as Phil found out). This isn't expressing an opinion as much as being truthful about one's moral value.
Society can't deal with the truth because of coercion. And, yes, people have the right to boycott A&E. People have just as much right to decide who they're going to support with their money as companies have in worrying about their customer base.
Sodomy is not sexuality. It is a choice of method of gratification in spite of genetic differences. It rejects one's body functionality, and rejects the plan of one's Maker.
This Robertson is likely quite righteous as well as being right; and the crudity of current social conventions is wrong, IMHO.
It is the attempt of one group to punish and silence another for daring to have a different opinion. Sounds an awful lot like a free speech issue to me.
Alot of people felt differently around here when it was tbe Dixie Chicks. But in this case the DD will come out on top.
One list things on TV that are offensive to traditional Americans...
And the other list of things offensive to elite liberals... how would that look??
Elite liberals have FOXNews on their list and this ONE issue.
Traditional Americans have all the networks, newspapers except one, and 99% of movies and TV shows.
Conservatives are told to 'change the channel' if they don't like the "F" word used for laughs, if they don't like shows with two moms for their kids... Or told they're provincial if they object to God's name being taken in vain or sit-coms filled with teen sex and young people living together... We can't even object to the endless shows where conservatives are made out to be stupid and evil...
Once again, liberal elites are closed minded bullies...and oh so offended if anyone gives them the smallest taste of their own medicine.
.... This whole thing is quite simple really .... Basically .... A man was terminated from his job because of his religious beliefs. They should take it from there.
I would like DD to be on a network that didnt feel the need to try to paint good folks as vulgar.
There are tons of info regarding the details of the show “Duck Dynasty” that
we don’t know. Who owns the show, contractual agreements, copyrights to name, etc.,
payments, number of shows per season, script approval, etc and many more.
That said if A&E can’t convince the Robertsons to stay onboard then they are
mostly going to be left with nothing but reruns, some stage props and a
name for marketing, but of what?
The Robertsons may be able to market themselves to another network for some type
spinoff depending upon their A&E contract. Who knows at this stage what is even
possible until the details are sorted out and the entities sit down and discuss
the potential for resolution.
Phil personally has been under no illusion as the life of the show. I read a quote
about him talking of a few years or so at best and it would be gone. I think used four
or five years. So who knows what his thinking was/is at this stage.
I think the difference in the Dixie Chicks situation is that the public punished them for their public remarks that they (the public) found obnoxious.
A & E, as the employer of Phil Robinson, punished Phil Robertson for expressing his religious beliefs publicly.
As a former La Tech alumni I knew who he was years ago not only as a football star but as a hunter evangelist. He would say he could always find a way to take people hunting and somehow connect ducks and Jesus. Phil has been at this a long long time and he won’t be cowed by A&E.
“Southern blacks were a lot happier back in the good old days.”
prove it. Prove any of the the Robertsons said this. I call bullshit
I think we got one with mother issues! LOL!
The Left cannot trash the 1st Amendment in one fell swoop, so instead it marginalizes speech incrementally through its loyal agents well dispersed throughout the fabric of the Country.
It is not a freedom of speech issue. A and E has just as much a right to edit their own programming as Phil does to voice his opinion about gays.
A&E is clueless to that culture. They insulted daddy. The rest of the family would never betray daddy.
It's probably more of a contract law issue. I'm sure A&E has a contact with these folks, and it'll come down to what clauses are in it (if any) which might cover the cast's outside activities.
>> It is not a freedom of speech issue.
Like Hell it isn’t.
They fired him for speaking the truth. May not be suppression, but it sure is stupid.
Phil can say what he wants, A&E don’t have to agree with it OR put it on the air.
It’s unfair and dispicable.
If A&E can fire Phil for saying this, why can the bakery in CO not refuse to bake a cake for the lesbians?
Is A&E required to air any and all opinions?
I really don't think your comparison holds, AutumnRaine. You really need to rethink your words.
It’s about fascism and its institutionalized constraints on speech. Less notable personalities are regularly persecuted and pay for expressing what we consider normal speech. This is indeed a freedom of speech issue.
Ask Monty Python about them ...
In the end WE decide. The Dixie Chicks learned that...this one may also show our feelings with a completely reversed situation.
Thanks. I’m not dismissing the contractual and Constitutional arguments. I’m instead speaking to the effective outcome of the agenda that’s making it difficult to publicly differentiate such things as the vulva and anus.
So does this mean that I can now fire my employees for their religious beliefs? And better yet not hire them in the first place?