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Obamacare, the end of the progressive era
The Washington Times ^ | December 19, 2013 | Lewis K. Uhler and Peter Ferrara

Posted on 12/19/2013 8:14:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

There’s an old saw about cooking frogs: Place them in cool water, and then turn up the heat. The frogs fail to respond to gradual temperature change, and by the time the water gets near the boiling point, the frogs are unable to jump out and save themselves.

That is what President Obama and the Democrats have had in mind with Obamacare, which they planned would lead to single-payer, socialized medicine. However, their incompetent “chefs” have placed ordinary citizens directly in a boiling health care caldron. Americans are reacting with extreme reproach, and it is progressivism and the Democratic Party that is getting burned.

Recently, 39 Democratic members of the House joined 222 Republicans in supporting Rep. Fred Upton’s Keep Your Health Plan Act of 2013 to restore canceled health insurance policies. Clearly, those Democrats are scared to death of the fallout of Obamacare and the plummeting poll numbers for Democrats and Mr. Obama. At a more recent Democratic chiefs-of-staff meeting, one of them said that if Obamacare isn’t fixed, “this could be the demise of the Democratic Party.”

However, the most earth-shattering observation was still to come. Political commentator Mark Shields, possibly the most ardent and articulate apologist for Mr. Obama and his presidency, raised the stakes when he acknowledged recently that if “they can’t fix Obamacare, it will mark the end of the progressive era in America.” That may be most profound, prophetic and significant liberal confession thus far in the 21st century — and it could mark the end of the modern liberal hundred-years war on America. This philosophical war was commenced in 1913 with the inauguration of President Woodrow Wilson and adoption of the federal income tax and the Federal Reserve System....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obama; obamacare; singlepayer; socializedmedicine

1 posted on 12/19/2013 8:14:38 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 12/19/2013 8:17:24 PM PST by dontreadthis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Boehnercare, RINOcare, or Hillarycare are just a few of the efforts by “both” political parties to “improve” on the basic Marxist plan of Taxpayer debt Health insurance.

The only way to stop this re-didtribution Marxist Tax is Federal Bankruptcy.


3 posted on 12/19/2013 8:20:34 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ping


4 posted on 12/19/2013 8:21:39 PM PST by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope so, and that it’s not too late!


5 posted on 12/19/2013 8:24:32 PM PST by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Everyone loves Obamacare...c'mon in, the waters fine.
6 posted on 12/19/2013 8:30:15 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obamacare’s right on track.

No one is stopping it.

So where is the bright light here??????


7 posted on 12/19/2013 8:36:37 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: Tzimisce

Oh what track? It’s asking 2+2 to equal, not even 5, but something like 1000.


8 posted on 12/19/2013 8:37:38 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Tzimisce

The Case That Could Topple Obamacare
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3103246/posts


9 posted on 12/19/2013 8:45:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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It IS the end of the Prog era. LIVers have learned that voting their precious ‘feelings’ just landed them NO soccer, NO ballet, and certainly no entertainment or restaurant dinners.

Gotta pay that Obamacare premium that just totallly siphoned off their disposable income.

This was proven by dismal Christmas retail activity. Zero cancelled Christmas this year.

These mugged liberals need to be engaged to cancel Zero in November.


10 posted on 12/19/2013 9:02:13 PM PST by txhurl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It should be... but the Vichy will try to prevent it. That’s you, Boehner.


11 posted on 12/19/2013 9:03:21 PM PST by Ray76
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
At a more recent Democratic chiefs-of-staff meeting, one of them said that if Obamacare isn’t fixed, “this could be the demise of the Democratic Party.”

Some of you know that I've predicted that very thing for months within these pages. It's still true.

Obamacare is doing so much damage to the American people, that its net effects will result in the fall of the DemoSocialist party for all time, if not repealed in its entirety.

Apparently, the old bulls in the Donk party also know this, and are now so panic stricken, they're actually saying it out loud.

Let us hope that His Heinous continues to double down on it.

12 posted on 12/19/2013 9:30:06 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Remind me what killed the Whig Party, my memory is terrible tonight...


13 posted on 12/19/2013 9:32:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: Tzimisce
Obamacare’s right on track. No one is stopping it. So where is the bright light here?

The bright light is the inevitable collapse of the progressive, DemoSocialist party and their entire agenda, due to the disastrous effects of Obamacare on the American people.

The only way out for them is a full repeal of that abomination, but Dear Reader has said that it won't happen while he's still President. He's virtually assuring his party's demise.

14 posted on 12/19/2013 9:34:03 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Tzimisce

The way to stop Obama is to not play the game. Don’t sign up. Organize your tax situation so you don’t get refunds so that the IRS can’t get their “taxes” (penalities). Go to cash only medical services. If something really bad happens go to the Emergency room. 12 million illlegal aliens can’t be wrong. If enough people don’t play Obabacare will wither on the vine.

CC


15 posted on 12/19/2013 9:40:05 PM PST by Captain Compassion
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Progressivism is the wrong term to descript Obama’s policies. They are pure Marxism, from Marx/Engels to Alinsky, Quentin Young to Bill Ayers.

From The Communist Manifesto:

1. Abolition of property in land and appliation of all rents of land to public purposes. (The rise in the use of “Eminent Domain”)
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. (Speaks for itself).
3. Abolition of all right of inheritance (The Inheritance tax)
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly. (I.e. the Federal Reserve Banks, GM bailout, The Stimulus Bill, EBT cards).
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state (The FCC under marxist Genochowski and the new head, following the marxist plan written by Joel Rodgers, is still aiming to limit free speech on the airwaves and newspapers (the new initiative to see that the people get certain information from their media whether the media wants to show/print it or not).
ICC and Dept. of Commerce rules on diesel fuel for planes, trains, trucks and boats, now underway which will cripple the transportation industry.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State . . .
(I.e. GM, Solyndra and all the other govt-funded “Green power” fiascoes).
8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, esp. for agriculture. (The Obama various “corps” by chance).
9.Combination of argriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country (Now being advocated by several leftist groups/studies/universities to force people out of the suburbs into high-rise cities, against their will and the destruction of suburbia as we know it), by a more equable distribution of the population over the country (i.e. the aformentioned destruction of the suburbs and merging them into the cities).
10. Free education for all children in public schools.... (We have free education for all children in public schools - paid for by our taxes).

All of the above was taken directly from “The Communist Manifesto”, Karl Marx and Friedrich Engles: The revolutionary economic, political and social treatise that has transfigured the world”, paperback edition, Washington Square Press, July 1965, p. 94.

Read ‘em and weep!

7. Ext


16 posted on 12/19/2013 11:54:35 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wishful thinking, to think progressivism dying. As long as collectivists live, they will seek more collectivism, just because.


17 posted on 12/20/2013 3:15:53 AM PST by lurk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The end of Progressives? Have they not heard? The Hildabeast,the next Democrat candidate for President is a non apologetic PROGRESSIVE!


18 posted on 12/20/2013 3:43:23 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: Windflier

The only way out for them is a full repeal of that abomination, but Dear Reader has said that it won’t happen while he’s still President. He’s virtually assuring his party’s demise.


Or his own, with the Dem’s it supposed to be ‘Party’ first, they may decide that he needs to go for the sake of the ‘party’. Resignation for undisclosed health problems would work I think.

And it truly might come down to that, a lot depends on the 2014 elections and their results. We’ll know more as the next few month’s progress and the smell of fear gets even more prevalent in D.C.


19 posted on 12/20/2013 4:17:57 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Oh what track? It’s asking 2+2 to equal, not even 5, but something like 1000.

(snicker) See tagline.

20 posted on 12/20/2013 4:40:24 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: Windflier

...but we’re ALL going to go down with that ship!


21 posted on 12/20/2013 1:26:27 PM PST by Tzimisce
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...but we’re ALL going to go down with that ship!

No we're not. Yes, some people will wind up without access to the life saving medical care they need. Some may even die as a result, which will be an atrocity.

I don't want to see any innocent Americans suffer needlessly, but we've got to come to grips with the fact that the hard left is at war with mainstream America, and that they will kill a lot more people than Obamacare will, should they be allowed to continue forward in their quest for absolute power over the nation.

The politicos in Washington aren't going to stop them. Peaceful Tea Party rallies in the park and countless conservative bloggers aren't going to stop them. Voting them out isn't going to stop them.

So what will?

Only a recognition on the part of the American people of just what a diabolical menace the left is, will stop them. How do you get the American people to wake up to that degree? Let them experience the pain of what they've voted for.

Ease the pain, and the life saving lesson will be lost. The DemoSocialist party will be saved, and we'll continue swirling down the toilet bowl of history to our ultimate oblivion.

22 posted on 12/20/2013 2:51:43 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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Political commentator Mark Shields, possibly the most ardent and articulate apologist for Mr. Obama and his presidency, raised the stakes when he acknowledged recently that if “they can’t fix Obamacare, it will mark the end of the progressive era in America.”

Progressives are like bedbugs. Even if what he says is true, they'll be back. Cargo cultism is too attractive.

23 posted on 12/20/2013 2:57:16 PM PST by Stentor
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