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Top Cop Shows Off Chicago's "Gun Vault"
nbcchicago.com ^ | 12/20/2013 | Marion Brooks

Posted on 12/20/2013 8:56:50 AM PST by rktman

Each week, Chicago police Supt. Garry McCarthy shows off to the media all of the guns officers have collected off the streets in recent days.

Those guns are held indefinitely inside an expansive warehouse in a location undisclosed to the public. From the floor almost to the ceiling, row after row, shelf after shelf and bin after bin, are guns.

"We've recovered more than 6,500 guns so far in 2013, and every year for I don't know how long the Chicago Police Department has recovered more guns than any police department in the country," McCarthy said as he provided NBC Chicago a recent, exclusive peek inside the facility.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcchicago.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol
Being chicago, does anyone think that when "they" went through the collection and bar-coded this stockpile that more than one or two "vanished"? Is there some sort of restriction in IL as to melting them down or cutting them up? If not, why are the citizens paying for such a huge storage facility? Somebody got a bro-in-law that owns the building? Maybe one vals buds owns it? Just sayin'.(I'll bet there are some sweet pieces in that warehouse)
1 posted on 12/20/2013 8:56:50 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

So! You’ve recovered more guns than any other police agency. I guess that’s why you have more murders in your not-so-lovely city.


2 posted on 12/20/2013 8:59:05 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: rktman

Yep, that will stop the baddies from getting more, right? I think they have a long way to go to rid Chicago of guns. Its like ridding Chicago of drugs.


3 posted on 12/20/2013 9:01:14 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods? Glenn Doherty ? Forgot already?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

...and what does he mean by “I don’t know for how long?” He’s the “top cop”. Why the hell doesn’t he know?? Pure incompetence.


4 posted on 12/20/2013 9:02:50 AM PST by Dr. Pritchett
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Well, the did send some dope out of the city to d.c. :>)


5 posted on 12/20/2013 9:04:01 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

If their efforts were effective, the murder rate would be going down, but it isn’t. This is just window dressing for a failed government and police department. My guess is that despite the draconian gun laws, there are tens of thousands of guns in “the projects.”


6 posted on 12/20/2013 9:08:20 AM PST by vette6387
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To: afraidfortherepublic

They’re number 1! 1800 murders in one year!


7 posted on 12/20/2013 9:10:03 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: rktman

” We’ve recovered more than 6,500 guns ....”

You are so full of shit!

You didn’t recover anything. That would be like saying “we recovered 6,500 ounces of Gold....”

Something that has a value. It’s quantifiable, tangible and has a measurable effect of at least some accretive value to the community.

No, you fascist FK. You removed fascist”xxx” guns from the community but, what....what were the circumstances of your confiscations?

Did you remove a certain amount of thos guns from violent criminals?

What amount came through your lame “buyback” programs.

Finally, what amount came from honest citizens who possessed these weapons to protect themselves and loved.

Pound sand.

Asset.

Never go into business. Clearly you don’t understand words have real meaning and your co-opting words through your self serving obfuscations of words is seriously injurious to society.

Btw, if you were so interested in public safety why not recover radios and cell phones in the name of public safety?

Surely you can find some expert who can tell you can”with absolute certainty” how many lives that would save?


8 posted on 12/20/2013 9:12:09 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: rktman

When I hear “Chicago” and “vault” in the same sentence, I immediately think of Jerry Rivers. lol


9 posted on 12/20/2013 9:12:13 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: rktman

How many have been uh, destroyed, via removal to a officers personal collection?


10 posted on 12/20/2013 9:13:14 AM PST by matt04
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Was there any breakdown as to TYPE of weapon? There would be surprisingly few “assault” (read “scary-looking”) rifles, and a preponderance of pistols of various kinds, including some of crude home manufacture or cobbled-together from separate weapons, few of which were obtained through legal channels (stolen or smuggled into town), and only a very small quantity of which the owner was legally permitted to possess. The actual felony would have been committed, in practically every case, by a person who should not have had access to the weapon.


11 posted on 12/20/2013 9:13:42 AM PST by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: rktman

Look at Chicago in the ‘30’s when Capone and the Mob were basically running the place, and I think little has changed other then the names of the bosses. The Chicago way in use now seem to be the same methods used by the mob being inflicted on the entire U.S.

Merry Christmas!


12 posted on 12/20/2013 9:15:30 AM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: rktman

” and every year for I don’t know how long the Chicago Police Department has recovered more guns than any police department in the country,”

Not really sure thats something to brag about.


13 posted on 12/20/2013 9:16:56 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman
Look at Chicago in the ‘30’s when Capone and the Mob were basically running the place, and I think little has changed other then the names of the bosses.

Statistically, it is less violent now than then.

14 posted on 12/20/2013 9:18:25 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: rktman

Interesting reading this thread. A lot of good statements and questions that are never asked by the “journalists.” Just one of these questions would stump that Mike Ditka lookalike.


15 posted on 12/20/2013 9:21:11 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: rktman
"We've recovered more than 6,500 guns so far in 2013,

Since guns kill, shouldn't there be 6,500 fewer murders in Chicago?

16 posted on 12/20/2013 9:22:06 AM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: matt04

Someone FReepmailed me and commented “That’s a lot of future ‘drop’ guns!”


17 posted on 12/20/2013 9:25:28 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: rktman

Can’t wait to get my Illinois concealed carry in 4 months. I’ll be walking down Michigan avenue with two 1911’s, smiling from ear to ear. F.U.C.P.D.!


18 posted on 12/20/2013 9:44:26 AM PST by Lockbar ("WWVTID?": What Would Vlad The Impaler Do?)
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To: rktman

Perhaps this is why they have so many shootings and killings. If they let everyone keep their guns the murder rate would go down.


19 posted on 12/20/2013 9:50:50 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: null and void
0 and Holder probably sell them to the Mexicans on a "Buy Two get One Free" scheme.
20 posted on 12/20/2013 9:53:56 AM PST by skimbell
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To: rktman
" I'll bet there are some sweet pieces in that warehouse."

I doubt it. I served as an evidence custodian at one time. The Chicago PD setup is an ideal scenario for evidence to go "missing." I'd wager most the "good stuff" long ago sprouted legs and walked out the door, as happened at the Washington, D.C. police evidence locker some years ago. I doubt they have ever conducted a quarterly "eyes on" evidence inventory of all their holdings. If anything, they probably confirm the evidence tags are in place, but nobody has ever opened the bags and boxes to confirm the guns are physically present.
21 posted on 12/20/2013 10:00:06 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: rktman
In the report, McCarthy thinks the answer is getting all guns registered, and all sales registered. Otherwise, "nobody" knows where they are and they end up "on the street". I guess it has never occurred to hom to get all the gang-bangers and drug cartel enforcers "off the street".

I'll bet thousands of the "destroyed" guns have over the years ended up in hundreds or thousands of $h!tcago police officer personal stashes. It would be a bet I would surely win.

22 posted on 12/20/2013 10:03:43 AM PST by Gritty (Liberals think living your life free of welfare, EBT, and government nannies is "cheating"-J Hawkins)
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To: rktman

They should auction them off to Texas before they cut them up and pay some bills. Our Sheriff depts have auctions every year to raise money for equipment. I’m sure we would buy them for bulk prices to auction them off. I barely missed a Desert Eagle .44 mag for $600 year before last. I’m still sick. The only thing worse would be to know some asshat put it in a crusher.


23 posted on 12/20/2013 10:09:24 AM PST by chuckles
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To: Lockbar
Can’t wait to get my Illinois concealed carry in 4 months.

Fantastic!

I’ll be walking down Michigan avenue with two 1911’s, smiling from ear to ear.

You're not going to want to hear this, but don't carry anything you don't want ending up in Chicago's "Gun Vault" or evidence room. You'll go broke and die of old age fighting to get it back. Carry something else, something you can afford to loose.

F.U.C.P.D.!

24 posted on 12/20/2013 10:31:13 AM PST by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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One of the exmaples, a 1972 purchase by an old lady, who died in 2006, this nitwit goes, "We have no record of what happened. Was this lady a straw purchaser?"

Yes. He actually said that.

25 posted on 12/20/2013 11:07:37 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: rktman
The implication is that those 6,500 guns were confiscated from people who committed a crime or are prohibited from possessing firearms. These crimes supposedly carry hefty, mandatory sentences. How many of the people they caught with these guns are now behind bars doing serious? My guess is less than 10%.

IIRC in Chicago less than %10 of homicides result in a arrest, conviction, and prison sentence. I think it may have even been less that %5.

If they did prosecute every crook who deserved it to the full extent of the law our prisons would be bursting at the seams with Sons of Obama and the Sons of Mexico. It would be RACIST! It would cost too much. Plus, having street thugs roaming about helps keep the middle-class in line.

26 posted on 12/20/2013 11:10:19 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: rktman

how could this possibly be?? Guns are illegal and therefore not available in Chicago. Do they need to pass more laws restricting gun acquisition. They should stop this foolish gun conficastion and rely on new legislation to fix the problem.


27 posted on 12/20/2013 11:22:06 AM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

what do you mean in the ‘30s? You think the mob is not running chicago and the democratic party as of today?


28 posted on 12/20/2013 11:24:15 AM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: Lazamataz

That’s right up there with an on camera statement made by NOLA Chief at a murder scene. Several bodies under tarps. Bullet holes in everything on the street. The Chief is standing ankle-deep in spent brass. The reporter asks, “What happened here, Chief?” Super-sleuth responds, “Sumpin’ baaad happened here. Sumbody’ wanted dees boys deaaaad!”


29 posted on 12/20/2013 11:30:26 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
“You’ve recovered more guns than any other police agency.”

Let us not fall for the Orwellian newspeak. Virtually none of those guns were “recovered”. They could only be “recovered” if they were stolen, in which case they should have been returned to the rightful owners, and not be in the warehouse.

Those guns were “confiscated”, “impounded”, or perhaps merely, “seized”.

They were not “recovered”.

30 posted on 12/20/2013 12:06:17 PM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: alloysteel
Was there any breakdown as to TYPE of weapon?

The "gun vault, " or the Evidence and Recovered Property Warehouse, as it's formally known by the department, is currently holding approximately 80,000 guns. There about 56,000 handguns, nearly 2,000 assault weapons and 21 machine guns.

So in other words, no. Just "handgun," whatever the heck an "assault weapon" is, and whatever the heck a "machine gun" is. I highly doubt they actually managed to confiscate 21 NFA registered full-auto rifles... And what's with the numbers? They say 80m,000, but only categorize about 58,000 of them. Are the rest cap guns, BB guns, pencils, and Pop Tarts?

31 posted on 12/20/2013 3:30:37 PM PST by lcms rev
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To: rktman
"Each week, Chicago police Supt. Garry McCarthy shows off to the media all of the guns officers have collected off the streets in recent days."

They should instead show mugshots of all the criminals that the guns were confiscated from and any/all victims of violent crime associated with that criminal.

In fact, the Chicago PD should publish a giant coffee table book each year containing mugshots of all the violent criminals who use illegal firearms, their rap sheet, and if possible photos of their victims and the circumstances of the crime. I've suggested for years that gun control advocates publish such a book and let America see the faces of criminals and the poor unfortunate victims of their crime. Maybe they can even expand to stabbings.

Gosh, why don't they do that?

Oh, I know why: Doesn't fit their agenda. The average American would spend one minute flipping through that book and think either "OOh, I think I'm seeing a trend here..." or "Yep. Just as I suspected." and just possibly resolve right then and there to acquire their very own first gun.

Right, better just allow the press to photograph scary guns and put the blame on those. Good work Chicago PD, you louses.

32 posted on 12/20/2013 4:11:35 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: rktman

So they didn’t know where one gun was since the 1970’s. So?


33 posted on 12/20/2013 4:18:29 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: rktman

Here’s the rest of the story Chicago police Supt. Garry McCarthy didn’t tell the NBC reporter. The CPD has this huge stash of seized guns. Every Friday and Saturday night they sell off part of their stash back to the thugs and gang bangers to make some loot for themselves. Cycle: confiscate illegal gun, put into CPD “gun vault” until the heat is over, then sell gun back to bad guys. This is the essence of “good business” in Chicago.


34 posted on 12/21/2013 6:47:59 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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Deceased mayor rcd would be proud.


35 posted on 12/21/2013 7:17:10 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: rktman
Just maintaining the proud tradition of corruption that Chicago has become synonymous for.
36 posted on 12/21/2013 7:19:46 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: rktman
"Guns from World War II will kill you today the same as back then."

I have to keep my WWII guns in a separate safe. They keep trying to talk the young guns into going on a killing spree.

37 posted on 12/21/2013 7:35:49 AM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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