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‘Duck Dynasty’ star Phil Robertson’s views common among Americans
The Washington Post's Style Section ^ | December 20, 2013 | Max Ehrenfreund

Posted on 12/20/2013 6:20:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

A&E has distanced itself from Phil Robertson, the patriarch in its enormously popular “Duck Dynasty” series, following his comments about homosexuality. Yet the opinion he expressed, that homosexuality is a sin, is shared by 45 percent of Americans, according to a recent poll.

Fully 78 percent of white evangelical Protestants agree with Robertson, according to the data. They are demographic group analyzed in the poll that is presumably most likely to watch “Duck Dynasty.”

Scott Collins compares A&E to other networks that have condemned the same traditional world views that make their shows so popular and so lucrative:

Once again, TV finds itself in another cultural hot zone. The “Duck Dynasty” situation recalls last summer’s uproar over celebrity chef Paula Deen, who lost her Food Network gig and many sponsorship deals after she admitted she had “of course” used a racial epithet in the past. . . .

These cases reflect larger rifts in American life — call it a split between progressives and traditionalist values.

But the particular problem for the TV industry is that it’s trying to profit off the same cultural tensions it’s exploiting. That inevitably leads to problems such as the current one engulfing “Duck Dynasty.”

The reality programming trend in recent years has made stars out of everyone from bakers to pawnbrokers to catfish-wranglers. That these “authentic” people have opinions and values that don’t always jibe with those of the media elite in New York and Los Angeles isn’t necessarily surprising....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: duckdynasty; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; palin; philrobertson
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"Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of this hat!"
1 posted on 12/20/2013 6:20:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I didn’t know the sponge was supposed to be wet...


2 posted on 12/20/2013 6:25:49 PM PST by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>> Yet the opinion he expressed, that homosexuality is a sin, is shared by 45 percent of Americans, according to a recent poll.

Whatever... it’s YAHWEH’s rule. It’s not subject to a vote, a poll, or a popularity contest.


3 posted on 12/20/2013 6:27:51 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Like I stated in a previous DD thread:

A&E thought they'd broadcast DD thinking that the audience would be effeminate leftists poking fun at them, not realizing that the majority of viewers would come from the heartland. Now the Robertsons dared expressed their beliefs and A&E is panicking over what to do with them.

4 posted on 12/20/2013 6:29:39 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This thing isn’t all bad. This means that I can now fire my employees for expressing their religious beliefs outside the workplace. You know who you are, say ‘goodbye!’


5 posted on 12/20/2013 6:29:47 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Nervous Tick

Bump!


6 posted on 12/20/2013 6:30:53 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I thought well over 70% of Americans believe in God.

If so, then I love to see the breakdown of those persons to see where they attend, if at all.

I would believe that any Muslim you asked would say homosexuality was sinful. I’d love to start parading Muslims out to support Christian and Jewish causes.


7 posted on 12/20/2013 6:32:05 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Like I said on another one of your posts nailing it......BINGO!


8 posted on 12/20/2013 6:32:57 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The government-media-educational complex hates half the country


9 posted on 12/20/2013 6:32:59 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course its common. Next thing you know they’ll discover that barbecued meats are quite popular with carnivores.


10 posted on 12/20/2013 6:33:06 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would say it is common for EVERY non-homosexual to think this way

Mhat non-gay male is not disgusted with the thought of a another man’s anus?


11 posted on 12/20/2013 6:33:13 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it. Period.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

His views are common among normal people. And normal among common people.

What fascinates me is the propaganda mechanism which is brought to bear to make normal people think they are the ones who are wrong. Its set on auto and it has a hair-trigger.


12 posted on 12/20/2013 6:33:37 PM PST by marron
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To: TigersEye

Sounds like a good way to get rid of moslems, atheists and environmentalists.


13 posted on 12/20/2013 6:33:38 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Once again, TV finds itself in another cultural hot zone. The “Duck Dynasty” situation recalls last summer’s uproar over celebrity chef Paula Deen, who lost her Food Network gig and many sponsorship deals after she admitted she had “of course” used a racial epithet in the past. . 

Great example of how the left operates. Culture and society are constantly changing. In the past things have usually changed very slowly and gradually. The left figured out that they can use the mass media and the education system to make changes quicker. The problem though is these are only shallow, quasi-intellectual changes...they don't have deep roots nearly anywhere but they're widespread. Wide and thin . The left then demonizes anyone who dares to poke their head out of this shallow pool and point out just how little substance there is to it.

14 posted on 12/20/2013 6:34:33 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: TigersEye

No, it means that you can fire your employees without reason in most states.


15 posted on 12/20/2013 6:35:48 PM PST by doc1019 (Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

0bama voters, Hillary fans, ... Progressives in general.


16 posted on 12/20/2013 6:36:16 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: doc1019

But now I can state the reason loud and clear. Woo hoo!


17 posted on 12/20/2013 6:37:07 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
A&E thought they'd broadcast DD thinking that the audience would be effeminate leftists poking fun at them, not realizing that the majority of viewers would come from the heartland. Now the Robertsons dared expressed their beliefs and A&E is panicking over what to do with them.

Just so. I think the geniuses [sic] at A&E originally envisioned DD would be a show where people would gawk and laugh at the nouveau riche rednecks.

Surprisingly, the show was an enormous success, which brought A&E incredible revenue. However, it was successful, not because of the original concept, but because Americans identified with the Robertsons.

A&E was stuck. They loved the money, but hated what the Robertsons represented.

18 posted on 12/20/2013 6:37:42 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: TigersEye

Always could but didn’t have to.


19 posted on 12/20/2013 6:38:02 PM PST by doc1019 (Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Again?!


20 posted on 12/20/2013 6:38:14 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
‘Duck Dynasty’ star Phil Robertson’s views common among Americans

As much as I hate to stoop to childish, 3rd grade retorts...

NO SH*T, SHERLOCK (WaPo, not you, 2 Div)!!

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

21 posted on 12/20/2013 6:38:48 PM PST by wku man (It's almost deer season, got your DEERGOGGLES on yet? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jexrnFq2fXY)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

“Half my brain tied behind my back.”


22 posted on 12/20/2013 6:39:07 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2016)
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To: doc1019
Really? I could have sworn that it was illegal to
discriminate in hiring/firing on the basis of religion.

My bad.

23 posted on 12/20/2013 6:39:38 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye

I will say it one more time ... In most states it is legal to fire an employee for no reason. An employer doesn’t have to give a reason. If the employer does give a reason, they can be opening themselves to a lawsuit.

By the way Phil was not fired but put on hiatus, thus they are covering their butts.


24 posted on 12/20/2013 6:48:09 PM PST by doc1019 (Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

;-)


25 posted on 12/20/2013 6:48:59 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Yup. The A&E execs expected Honey BooBoo with ducks.


26 posted on 12/20/2013 6:49:02 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: doc1019
If the employer does give a reason, they can be opening themselves to a lawsuit. By the way Phil was not fired but put on hiatus, thus they are covering their butts.

Nice spin there. lol

27 posted on 12/20/2013 6:50:13 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: TigersEye

Not my spin ... facts.


28 posted on 12/20/2013 6:51:46 PM PST by doc1019 (Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened!)
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To: doc1019
By the way Phil was not fired but put on hiatus, thus they are covering their butts.

Nope, no spin there at all. /s

29 posted on 12/20/2013 6:52:40 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: doc1019
No, it means that you can fire your employees without reason in most states.

As it should be. Jobs belong to the employer, not the employee.

30 posted on 12/20/2013 6:53:45 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: GeronL


31 posted on 12/20/2013 6:53:49 PM PST by TurboZamboni ("PEACE ON EARTH TO MEN OF GOOD WILL".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A lot of air time is given to homosexual advocates who complain that people like Phil Robertson are trying to force their beliefs, views and religion on others.

But I haven’t heard anyone ask them if that isn’t exactly what homosexuals have done to the entire coubntry over the last 45 years or so.

Homosexuals can squawk all they want but the fact remains that homosexual sex is an un-natural act.
A fact easily understood by anyone who understands how a nut and bolt work or how a living baby is created.


32 posted on 12/20/2013 6:54:41 PM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: doc1019; TigersEye
In most states it is legal to fire an employee for no reason.

Including New York State, of all places, for those of you keeping score at home. Employees are employed "at will"—the will of the employer, that is. Kind of the business equivalent of "shall issue."

33 posted on 12/20/2013 6:54:57 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: DouglasKC

Good observations.

It is like Hitler’s Blitzkreig that ran over Europe so quickly and put down a harsh martial law so unpopular with the people that they had to go underground.


34 posted on 12/20/2013 6:55:36 PM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
But the particular problem for the TV industry is that it’s trying to profit off the same cultural tensions it’s exploiting.

Bingo. It's a business. And everybody is trying to hitch their wagon to it.

35 posted on 12/20/2013 6:57:49 PM PST by TomServo
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To: TigersEye

Please ... explain the spin.

He was not fired he was put on hiatus therefore he can’t sue them for firing him for his religious beliefs. At the same time he is not allowed to be in the filming of any DD episode in the future (until his hiatus status is removed) a decision left to the discretion of A&E.


36 posted on 12/20/2013 6:59:45 PM PST by doc1019 (Inside every older person is a younger person wondering what happened!)
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To: dfwgator
No, it means that you can fire your employees without reason in most states.

Maybe legally, but anyone who fires an employee without reason will rightfully be subject to the appropriate karma

37 posted on 12/20/2013 7:03:46 PM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Fully 78 percent of white evangelical Protestants agree with Robertson ...”

I’d be interested to hear the thoughts of the other 22% of “white evangelical Protestants” on the matter.


38 posted on 12/20/2013 7:05:44 PM PST by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not only are these views common among most Americans, they’re common among almost all of humanity. Always have been, and always will be, until humanity collectively wants to commit suicide.


39 posted on 12/20/2013 7:05:49 PM PST by TruthFactor (Tag-free, for now.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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40 posted on 12/20/2013 7:12:13 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: marron
What fascinates me is the propaganda mechanism which is brought to bear to make normal people think they are the ones who are wrong.

What's the surprise? Girl bullies have been refining the technique since the dawn of man.

41 posted on 12/20/2013 7:13:52 PM PST by papertyger ("refusing to draw an inescapable conclusion does not qualify as a 'difference of opinion.'")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Paula Deen was railroaded because she said the Mooch ate more than any other guest she’d ever had. Bam! She’s a racist and in the news for a word used 20 years ago.

Phil Robertson shunned Baba Waba for an interview. Bam! His GQ comments from October become front page news and “hate speech” in December. Not a word before he ignored that lisping so called “reporter”.


42 posted on 12/20/2013 7:14:57 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: DouglasKC
Good post!
43 posted on 12/20/2013 7:17:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: Mr. K

Plumbers, sewer workers and Roto-Rooter employees?


44 posted on 12/20/2013 7:20:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: DouglasKC

Great example of how the left operates. Culture and society are constantly changing. In the past things have usually changed very slowly and gradually. The left figured out that they can use the mass media and the education system to make changes quicker. The problem though is these are only shallow, quasi-intellectual changes...they don’t have deep roots nearly anywhere but they’re widespread. Wide and thin . The left then demonizes anyone who dares to poke their head out of this shallow pool and point out just how little substance there is to it.


That’s a keeper !!!

I might add that much of the left doesn’t know that their own views are shallow.

They sense a threat, and react in the only way which they have found works.

They are fundamentally insecure.


45 posted on 12/20/2013 7:27:25 PM PST by Zeneta
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To: dfwgator; doc1019

Sure, you can fire someone for any reason, but the hundreds of thousands of lawyers out there are like sharks in the water these days and will sue at any provocation. I worked at two different states’ unemployment offices for many years and I saw it more and more throughout the years.


46 posted on 12/20/2013 7:28:42 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: JouleZ

Paula Deen wasn’t loved and admired like Phil Robertson. I think they bit off more than they can chew this time.


47 posted on 12/20/2013 7:30:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: Mr. K
Yes, that is the million dollar question.

Ask 100 million heterosexual men whether they prefer male anus to female vagina.

When we get those results, back, then I'd be impressed.

45% "approval"? My ass.

If you did my survey, I bet it's 98% the other way.

What heterosexual male "likes" another man's anus?

If they DO, they're not normal, or heterosexual.

48 posted on 12/20/2013 7:32:55 PM PST by boop (Liberal religion. No rules, just right!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
‘Duck Dynasty’ star Phil Robertson’s views common among Americans

I'm pretty sure Andrew "Dice" Clay covered this in the 80s.

49 posted on 12/20/2013 7:39:04 PM PST by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: COBOL2Java; Extremely Extreme Extremist
Just so. I think the geniuses [sic] at A&E originally envisioned DD would be a show where people would gawk and laugh at the nouveau riche rednecks.

This has been said of Norman Lear when he introduced Americans to Archie Bunker (UK's "Till Death Us Do Part"): He expected Americans to ridicule Archie. Instead, they identified with him and agreed with his views.

50 posted on 12/20/2013 7:41:11 PM PST by thecodont
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