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Wash. students protest gay vice principal's exit
SFGATE ^ | Updated 9:20 pm, Friday, December 20, 2013 | By DONNA GORDON BLANKINSHIP, Associated Press

Posted on 12/20/2013 10:12:52 PM PST by 11th_VA

SEATTLE (AP) — Students at a Seattle-area Catholic school are gaining national attention for their protest over the forced departure of a gay vice principal.

An online petition started by the senior class president of Eastside Catholic was the third fastest growing U.S. petition on change.org Friday, attracting around 15,000 signatures in one day.

The petition was launched after Vice Principal Mark Zmuda resigned under pressure from school administrators after they learned he had married his same-sex partner.

Bradley Strode said the students want to effect change within the wider Catholic Church, with an ultimate goal of altering the Catholic Church's stance on gay marriage.

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Well, I think the Pope owns this one ... just sayin ...
1 posted on 12/20/2013 10:12:52 PM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA

Try imagining that headline 30 years ago.


2 posted on 12/20/2013 10:13:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: 11th_VA
Bradley Strode said the students want to effect change within the wider Catholic Church, with an ultimate goal of altering the Catholic Church's stance on gay marriage

They just cannot stand that some people disagree with them, the intolerant thugs would open concentration camps foe dissenters if they could get away with it.

3 posted on 12/20/2013 10:19:46 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thirty years ago, they would have said, take your kid, and take your money and get out.


4 posted on 12/20/2013 10:20:44 PM PST by healy61
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I tried to organize people in my church about 30 years ago about what was coming. Everyone thought I was crazy.

What's that verse about a prophet in his own town ???

It's in God's hands now ...

5 posted on 12/20/2013 10:21:04 PM PST by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Try imagining that headline 30 years ago.”
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What is it today that is making homo activity now in vogue?


6 posted on 12/20/2013 10:23:41 PM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW

Satan.


7 posted on 12/20/2013 10:25:49 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: 11th_VA
An online petition started by the senior class president of Eastside Catholic was the third fastest growing U.S. petition on change.org Friday, attracting around 15,000 signatures in one day.

This petition now has a total of 20,087 signers.

The petition titled: A&E Networks: End The Wrongful Suspension Of Phil Robertson....has 111,616 signatures.

The petition titled: A&E Network: Bring Phil Robertson back!....has 98,388 signatures.

The petition titled: A&E Network: Bring Phil Robertson back and allow him his freedom of speech...has 22,892 signatures.

The facebook page titled: Boycott A&E Until Phil Robertson Is Put Back On Duck Dynasty....has over 1,600,000 "likes"

8 posted on 12/20/2013 10:32:52 PM PST by Washi
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Well, the Bible also said this would be one of the signs of the end as well ... God would no longer restrain sin in the world - I tend to believe that’s what we’re seeing going on before our very eyes ...


9 posted on 12/20/2013 10:33:06 PM PST by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: 11th_VA

Who are the students who started this petition. They should be expelled from school. Period.


10 posted on 12/20/2013 10:33:26 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: AlexW

They are only 1% to 3% of the population, but they are thick in the news media (see Anderson Cooper, Rachel Maddow and Shep Smith for just three examples), Hollywood, academia, television, magazines, art, design, social work, the bureaucracy, music, Broadway and other societal pressure points way beyond their numbers in society.


11 posted on 12/20/2013 10:34:38 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

See post #1 - if the Pope won’t condemn this, what should we expect the outcome to be ???


12 posted on 12/20/2013 10:37:30 PM PST by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: Cowboy Bob

See post #1 - if the Pope won’t condemn this, what should we expect the outcome to be ???


13 posted on 12/20/2013 10:37:30 PM PST by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I might assume that it has always been in vogue, but it stayed in the closest. I remember that back in my school days, the 50s, A popular insult was to call someone “queer-bait”. Today, I guess one would be sent to reeducation camp for saying that.


14 posted on 12/20/2013 10:38:43 PM PST by AlexW
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“They are only 1% to 3% of the population”
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They are apparently anxious to increase their percentage.
With it more in the open, one would think that the percentage is much higher.


15 posted on 12/20/2013 10:41:54 PM PST by AlexW
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To: 11th_VA

Yes the Pope is on record for saying almost anything is OK as long as you’re a nice guy. (Yes I know those weren’t his exact words.)

This is Seattle, you know. A den of rabid lefties who want to save aluminum cans but throw unwanted babies in the trash. I blame the parents and the church. If that school can’t teach what the Bible says about sexual immorality any better than this, then it might as well be a secular school.


16 posted on 12/20/2013 10:43:39 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: Pining_4_TX
who want to save aluminum cans but throw unwanted babies

That's a great line - I'm using it (I get your point)

17 posted on 12/20/2013 10:49:25 PM PST by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: GeronL

Good luck with that Bradley. That is really ‘settled law’ not like the laws of Obama Care.


18 posted on 12/20/2013 10:57:48 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: 11th_VA

These kids have been brainwashed by entertainment media that constantly show sympathetic gay characters.

They are taught that gay rights is the new civil rights.

We are not longer soughshing toward Gommorah. We have arrived.


19 posted on 12/20/2013 10:58:48 PM PST by garjog (Obama: making the world safe for Sharia.)
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To: AlexW

Not so much ‘in vogue’ as the fact that this group never hesitates to run to the courtroom when they don’t immediately get their way. Second step is to utilize the press for free publicity in pursuit of victimhood, a prized status for now, until we stop rewarding the presumed victim so very quickly. Assigning a burden of proof on the defendant is at times proper and prudent.


20 posted on 12/20/2013 10:59:40 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Jim from C-Town

lol


21 posted on 12/20/2013 11:01:43 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: garjog

Very good point - I’ll be teaching my grand kids otherwise ...


22 posted on 12/20/2013 11:01:44 PM PST by 11th_VA (I want a president who won't enforce tax laws ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I am not so sure about Shep Smith. He is certainly a leaner on gay issues, but he was married for six years in the late eighties and early nineties. I am not aware f him being outed. But then again I could give a crap!


23 posted on 12/20/2013 11:06:31 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Jim from C-Town

He’s as much as admitted it on several occasions. Many homosexuals have been or are married to members of the opposite sex as part of their cover or confliction. Do you believe that Mr. Obama or former Governor Crist of Florida are actually heterosexuals?


24 posted on 12/20/2013 11:09:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: 11th_VA

Why? Because he left by the back door?


25 posted on 12/20/2013 11:11:01 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: 11th_VA

But the Pope does not condone homosexual activity. He has been outspoken against it many times. What he has said is he thinks that Catholics may spend too much time talking Abortion and gay than working to help the poor and underprivileged.

He has never been to the masses I go to every week because I never here any talk about abortion, birth control or homosexuality. That is the real problem. Too much touchy feely God is love BS and not enough Hell fire, brimstone & Damnation. It’s more than obvious that they are doing a piss poor job of catechism already!


26 posted on 12/20/2013 11:11:24 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: 11th_VA

“Very good point - I’ll be teaching my grand kids otherwise”

Strong Christian parenting could turn it all around in a few generations.

We have a pastor here in Seattle that tells his congregation to have larger families.

He figures that if all families had four or five kids then in a generation or so Christians in Seattle will outnumber the gays and liberals who don’t have children and die off.


27 posted on 12/20/2013 11:12:33 PM PST by garjog (Obama: making the world safe for Sharia.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wouldn’t know, I don’t care. I guess all that eye make up and leftism would be wasted on a heterosexual.


28 posted on 12/20/2013 11:15:04 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: garjog

gays and liberals don’t need to have children, they recruit and propagandize


29 posted on 12/20/2013 11:20:44 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Has the Shep even been on lately? Haven’t seen him in ages.......


30 posted on 12/20/2013 11:35:24 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: Shortstop7
On September 12, 2013, Smith and Fox News announced that, along with another multi-year renewal of Smith's contract, Smith's role in Fox News would shift. Smith will become the managing editor of Fox News's new breaking news division. He will become the anchor of Shepard Smith Reporting, a new program airing at 3 p.m. EST, and The Fox Report will be phased into the breaking news division as well. All of these events are scheduled to occur in late 2013.
31 posted on 12/20/2013 11:39:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: 11th_VA

Well....there is one positive aspect in gay marriage...

Their genes are dead enders. Gays do not propagate more kids with their genes.


32 posted on 12/21/2013 12:07:59 AM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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>> the Catholic Church’s stance on gay marriage.

Have at it, Catholic bashers... c’mon!!!


33 posted on 12/21/2013 12:38:37 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: healy61

“Thirty years ago, they would have said, take your kid, and take your money and get out.”

They should say that today too. TOTAL lack of catechesis in this school. There will always kids that go along with “whatever.” But this points to a BIG “plate of fail” for parents, and educators to fail to teach the faith about what the bible says. Too many parents “assume” their kids pick up their own values just because they take them to church, or put them in a parochial school. Too many Catholic and other Christian educators “assume” that the kids are getting correct upbringing from home. So the gospel is “sanitized” and the kid gets taught the SECULAR value of the liberal media, who has had Christian values under assault for decades, because they are NEVER challenged in the public forum and get shouted down when they do. So because the kids NEVER hear the reasons against homosexual BEHAVIOR, they “assume” it is because “Christians are mean, and Jesus wouldn’t want us to be mean.” Which is crap. We all have our own crosses to bear. EVERONE strugges with something. Some have it harder than others. It did not “help” a damn thing when homosexual behavior was declassified as a dysfunction. Not on scientific grounds, but because at the time they didn’t want these people to have a “stigma” attached. The fact remains that in almost all cases it is psychological. And because they are told they are “normal” they do not get help. The “attraction” is not the sin. An attraction is an involuntary feeling that free will can not control. BUT you CAN learn to control how you ACT on those feelings. And in that you have total free will.


34 posted on 12/21/2013 12:44:22 AM PST by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: Cowboy Bob

The students who signed the petition should be suspended for excercising their right to free speech? Didn’t A&E just suspend someone for their exercise of free speech?


35 posted on 12/21/2013 12:45:08 AM PST by AnAmericanInEngland
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To: AnAmericanInEngland

Yes.


36 posted on 12/21/2013 1:42:10 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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“The students who signed the petition should be suspended for excercising their right to free speech? Didn’t A&E just suspend someone for their exercise of free speech?”

The context is this is NOT a public school, but a private one. By signing this petition a student is directly going against the values the school wishes to uphold, presumably the parents sent these to the school so inculcate the Catholic faith and what these kids advocate goes directly against that faith. I think an assembly, more than one it sounds like, is absolutely necessary to explain to the kids why this was done, and frankly for the administration to apologize to them for NOT doing the work of teaching why homosexual behavior is wrong.

the school may well be partly at fault too for hiring the guy in the first place. a) I DO know Catholics who are homosexual, who do their very best NOT to act on their same sex attraction, and try and avoid practising homosexual acts. They struggle with their crosses like we all with ours. b) and that said do we also want to automatically “punish” all gays by automatically not hiring them? What if you had a guy that was a faithful Catholic (to the best of his ability to avoid homosexual practices) but was a good math teacher? You probably give him the benefit of the doubt. And maybe this school knew the VP was gay, BUT did not know that he was pursuing homosexual activity? Do we want go send out questionaires every month or so? They took a chance.

Now, if they KNEW that he had no intention of keeping a chaste life, they should NOT have hired him in the first place. If they knew he was living a gay lifestyle, but hired him anyway, they need to apologize to the parents AND the students for putting up with it, or hiring the guy. But let us say they did not know, but in this case the attempt to create a “gay” marriage it becomes crystal clear that the guy was not living up to the school’s moral clause.

Just like, presumably they’d fire someone for drugs or a teacher advocating abortion or other grave activities that go directly against the church’s teaching.


37 posted on 12/21/2013 1:46:13 AM PST by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: AlexW
They are apparently anxious to increase their percentage. With it more in the open, one would think that the percentage is much higher.

I saw a poll a few years ago showing that when the results were separated out by age, the percentages of homosexuals in younger people were significantly higher than in older people. Which shows you their recruiting is working and there is no genetic reason causing it.

I think they consider Ellen Degeneres "coming out" to be the big turning point for their movement. It made a fairly popular, mainstream TV star the primary visible spokesmen for their lifestyle. The entertainment industry continued to embrace her even after her sitcom failed and made sure she would never disappear from the airwaves. You can also credit Howard Stern for promoting lesbianism on his show since the '80s and MTV Real World reality show for putting token homosexuals in their show since the early '90s.

At this point, there are homosexual characters all over TV shows aimed at all age groups. Apparently over 10% of people in the D.C. area are homosexual, which shows they've made a concerted effort to have influence over politics and the government. The educational system promotes homosexuality as they promote all left-wing causes, brainwashing their students belief system while handing them the degrees that enable them to enter positions of power in D.C. and corporations.

38 posted on 12/21/2013 1:54:02 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: 11th_VA

Some things cannot be reformed.

Holy Redeemer in San Francisco needs to be closed. This school in Seattle should be closed.


39 posted on 12/21/2013 2:01:53 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: JediJones

” the percentages of homosexuals in younger people were significantly higher”
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Well, it must be universal. Here in the Philippines I see my fair share of gay boys. I am still clueless as to what causes homosexuality, other then some genetic or chemical imbalance.


40 posted on 12/21/2013 2:12:56 AM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW

I would imagine it could develop like any other unnatural sexual fetish would. But the difference is I don’t think anyone would try to claim a foot fetish or leather fetish was genetic.


41 posted on 12/21/2013 2:24:55 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: JediJones

“I don’t think anyone would try to claim a foot fetish or leather fetish was genetic.”
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No, I would never imagine that those would be genetic.
Homosexuality is different. What causes one sex to prefer the same sex in a partner? Is it genetic or environmental?


42 posted on 12/21/2013 2:30:12 AM PST by AlexW
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To: 11th_VA; All

Looks like a Catholic school in Seattle is going to be attacked by the GayKK


43 posted on 12/21/2013 3:07:04 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Einstein was right)
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To: AlexW

Re: genetic/environmental — this makes for interesting reading re a high percentage of homosexuals being subjected to sexual abuse as a youngster. Also there is suppression of scientific studies which conclude that it is NOT genetically linked, because if it was the rate of siblings also being homosexual would be much higher, particularly in twins.

http://www.citizenlink.com/2010/06/17/childhood-sexual-abuse-and-male-homosexuality/?skip_splash=1


44 posted on 12/21/2013 3:18:23 AM PST by gemoftheocean (...geez, this all seems so straight forward and logical to me...)
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To: gemoftheocean

” The pain of abuse would inevitably lead to the exhilaration of sexual release, something I had never experienced before.”
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Did this kid never hear of masturbation?


45 posted on 12/21/2013 3:28:33 AM PST by AlexW
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To: AlexW

Good question. How is it possible that 3% of the population have managed to overrun this nation and turn us into Sodom and Gomorrah? I don’t know.


46 posted on 12/21/2013 4:43:50 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: 11th_VA

Let them protest all they want. That’s why we have adults running the show.


47 posted on 12/21/2013 4:48:30 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: entropy12

Yeah, they just teach in schools and Boy Scout troops, on TV shows and magazines.


48 posted on 12/21/2013 4:48:55 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: entropy12

Yeah, they just teach in schools and Boy Scout troops, on TV shows and magazines.


49 posted on 12/21/2013 4:48:55 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: healy61

EXACTLY!


50 posted on 12/21/2013 4:56:53 AM PST by marygam (I have extra ducktape for anyone who needs to wrap their head.)
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