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Phil Robertson fired From Duck Dynasty, Backlash Continues
eCanada Now ^ | December 21, 2013 | Jason Marin

Posted on 12/21/2013 9:45:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

A&E’s Woes Over Phil Robertson Firing Intensify with Duck Dynasty Family

By firing the star of the reality show “Duck Dynasty”, the A&E Network is walking a very fine line between fans and demands from gay rights groups such as the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD).

Interestingly, the lines aren’t drawn squarely between conservatives on one side and gay rights activists on the other.

Noted writer and lesbian Camille Paglia has expressed outrage over the denunciation of Phil Robertson and affirmed his right to express his religious views on homosexuality. Paglia claims the moral right to speak on the matter given that she was openly gay when doing so brought a person adverse consequences. She said that Robertson has a right to express his religious views even if they are against homosexuality.

“I speak with authority here, because I was openly gay before the ‘Stonewall rebellion,’ when it cost you something to be so. And I personally feel as a libertarian that people have the right to free thought and free speech,” Paglia, a professor at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia, said on Laura Ingraham’s radio show Thursday.

“In a democratic country, people have the right to be homophobic as well as they have the right to support homosexuality — as I one hundred percent do. If people are basing their views against gays on the Bible, again they have a right of religious freedom there,” she added.

She went on to say that he did so via a magazine interview and to punish him for that is Stalinist.

“To express yourself in a magazine in an interview — this is the level of punitive PC, utterly fascist, utterly Stalinist, OK, that my liberal colleagues in the Democratic Party and on college campuses have supported and promoted over the last several decades,” Paglia said. “This is the whole legacy of free speech 1960’s that have been lost by my own party.”

Now, the Robertson family has made a carefully veiled threat that they are not going to move on without their patriarch. They announced yesterday that they are speaking with A&E about the show’s future. A&E grossed $885 million this past year and a large portion of that comes from advertising revenue from “Duck Dynasty”.

Duck Dyansty Family Defends Patriarch Phil

Amidst the furor over “Duck Dynasty” star Phil Robertson’s remarks to GQ, his family has issued a statement defending him. While the statement characterized some of his statements a “coarse”, they stated they reflected his deeply held religious beliefs coming from the Bible.

According to eonline.com, the family stated that “Phil would never incite or encourage hate. We are disappointed that Phil has been placed on hiatus for expressing his faith, which is his constitutionally protected right. We have had a successful working relationship with A&E but, as a family, we cannot imagine the show going forward without our patriarch at the helm.” The statement clearly leaves the future of the hugely popular show in jeopardy, since it could not go on without them.

Robertson’s comments which state that homosexuality was a sinful behavior and that sex between men was illogical, led to Robertson’s suspension from the show. The remarks have ignited a firestorm of argument both for and against Robertson. Both Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal and Sarah Palin have come to Robertson’s defense, while GLAAD and the NAACP have declared their support for Robertson’s suspension. So far Phil Robertson himself has not made any statement regarding his suspension from the show.

On The Web:

Palin and Beck add fire to blazing row over Phil Robertson and Duck Dynasty http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/dec/20/palin-beck-phil-robertson-duck-dynasty

Paglia: Duck Dynasty uproar ‘utterly fascist, utterly Stalinist’ http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/19/paglia-duck-dynasty-uproar-utterly-fascist-utterly-stalinist/

Phil Robertson’s Entire Family Stands by Him, Implies Duck Dynasty Can’t Continue Unless He Returns http://www.eonline.com/news/492746/phil-robertson-s-entire-family-stands-by-him-implies-duck-dynasty-can-t-continue


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: camillepaglia; duckdynasty; louisiana; palin; philrobertson; vancemcallister
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1 posted on 12/21/2013 9:45:41 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Don’t care. We’re getting away from the stuff that matters.


2 posted on 12/21/2013 9:49:04 PM PST by Antihero101607
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Mr. R. is guilty of anti-Soviet thought and must be fired from his job and sent to the Gulag in Siberia.

Or was it anti-Mao thought, and....

No, wait! It was anti-Obama thought....

Oops, I got it...he was guilty of exercising his First Amendment rights as guaranteed by the U.S.Constitution!
How dare he do that!
What does he think the USA is, a free Country?!


3 posted on 12/21/2013 9:51:28 PM PST by OldArmy52 (The question is not whether Obama ever lies, but whether he ever tells the truth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

hate to tell y’all but I have heard these Robertson characters are Democrats , who encourage folks to vote for Dems . Is this true ? Looking at them , one must assume they all smoke weed . I am convinced that weed smoking directly leads people to becoming Liberals with strong inclinations to vote Dem. The best argument there is to totally avoid smoking weed .


4 posted on 12/21/2013 9:53:47 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Miss Paglia is the last leftist to show even a resemblance to classic liberalism, i.e., she may not necessarily agree with what someone say but she will fight for that person’s right to say it.


5 posted on 12/21/2013 9:55:23 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Antihero101607

>> Don’t care. We’re getting away from the stuff that matters.

It’s all intertwined.


6 posted on 12/21/2013 9:55:40 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Antihero101607

Don’t worry, Obamacare is inflicting wounds on hundreds of millions of people as we speak. We could be talking about Fantasy Football, American Idol or the weather in Upper Michigan and the ACA will still be hurting people from Austin to Boston and from Seattle to Sarasota. It doesn’t require our observation, it just is.


7 posted on 12/21/2013 9:56:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: ReformationFan

The Left is exploiting homosexuality in order to destroy the Christian fabric of the Country.


8 posted on 12/21/2013 9:57:24 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: LeoWindhorse

No they don’t smoke weed, they are deeply Church Of Christ which is a rather conservative denomination, at least their branch of it. Phil Robertson stated that he voted for Romney in the last election, which many other conservatives also did in a last-gasp, if futile, effort to stop Obama. (yes I know Romney wasn’t any better but that’s another argument). Robertson isn’t a dumb hick, he has a master’s degree (for what credentials are worth, they mean something to the elites at any rate as a signifier).


9 posted on 12/21/2013 10:03:07 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Not even close.


10 posted on 12/21/2013 10:03:12 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: LeoWindhorse

I don’t know where any of that came from. Beards = stoners, is that what you’re saying? I have a beard and I haven’t touched the stuff since I was 23, which is 30 years ago. Those people run a multi-hundred million dollar sporting goods operation, have the highest rated television show in cable history, large families, help at their church, hunt professionally and for their table and supervise their TV merchandise set-up. Does that sound like the work of drug addicts to you? Democrats? Huh?

‘Duck Dynasty’ Endorsed Candidate Wins Special Election, Upsets GOP Establishment Opponent
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3093971/posts

‘Duck Dynasty’ star reportedly eyed by Republicans as potential House candidate
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3054570/posts


11 posted on 12/21/2013 10:03:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: OldArmy52

“What does he think the USA is, a free Country?!”
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Correct yourself Comrade. It is the USSA.


12 posted on 12/21/2013 10:06:03 PM PST by AlexW
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To: ReformationFan

Credot where credit is due so I agree as far as it goes but she still misuses the term “homophobic”.


13 posted on 12/21/2013 10:06:54 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: LeoWindhorse

“...These Robertson characters...Looking at them, one must assume they all smoke weed...”
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You did not really type that, did you?


14 posted on 12/21/2013 10:09:30 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

Some people seem to hear certain accents, see people who like rural life, and their knees start jerking.

Just like some think every limey with a non-cockney accent must be an Etonian.


15 posted on 12/21/2013 10:19:03 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Antihero101607

“Don’t care. We’re getting away from the stuff that matters.”

If the number of posts on articles relating to this matter are indicative of “stuff that matters” to most of us, I’d say that you are probably wrong! FWIW, just when has free speech not been “stuff that matters?”


16 posted on 12/21/2013 10:22:35 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Repeal The 17th; LeoWindhorse

Si Robertson as a Specialist 5 in the US Army (he served 20 years from 1973-93) and a recent photo.

17 posted on 12/21/2013 10:26:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: vette6387
Just cool it. Either one of two things will happen. ! Jim comes back to A&e 2 The Ducks move to another network, either way he will be back bigger and better than ever
18 posted on 12/21/2013 10:28:54 PM PST by BooBoo1000 (Dont give up, even Moses was a basket case at one time or other.)
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To: Antihero101607

If you don’t care, don’t post.


19 posted on 12/21/2013 10:31:14 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think they will just go to another network.


20 posted on 12/21/2013 10:49:11 PM PST by Republican1795.
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To: mrsmel

Well, she’s still a leftist after all albeit a less-Stalinistic-than-usual one.


21 posted on 12/21/2013 10:49:36 PM PST by ReformationFan
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To: LeoWindhorse
hate to tell y’all but I have heard these Robertson characters are Democrats , who encourage folks to vote for Dems . Is this true ? Looking at them , one must assume they all smoke weed . I am convinced that weed smoking directly leads people to becoming Liberals with strong inclinations to vote Dem. The best argument there is to totally avoid smoking weed .

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Looking at your post, one must assume you smoke weed. I'm convinced that weed smoking directly leads people to be posting stupid comments with strong inclinations to make stuff up. The best argument there is to totally avoid smoking weed (and then posting made up stuff).

22 posted on 12/21/2013 11:01:37 PM PST by airborne (MY HEROES DON'T WEAR CAPES. MY HEROES WEAR DOG TAGS ! ! !)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I may be the only one who doesn't know who this guy is..

I don't have time to watch TV..

Free speech is what it says it is but it doesn't guarantee anybody a job.

There is no conflict with the constitution because the Feds are not involved.

But getting back to my original point..who are you people that have the time or inclination to be informed on this...

My world doesn't give me the time luxury.

23 posted on 12/21/2013 11:29:34 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve never seen the show. I’m not a follower of any show at present except some news shows. That said, until this suspension happened, followed by the tsunami of reaction, I had no idea the show was so hugely popular. The appearance from a few photos I’ve seen, is that this family is loved and cherished and listened to in the same way that The Waltons was loved back in the 1980s. Am I close here? I recall the dinner table scenes with all the family preparing to break bread and share what they have al worked for, another very significant American value. I think either Fox or Glen Beck will take them in after 2014. I read today that A&E wants to have Phil and the Family all stay with them, maybe shoot a 5th season. He should leave, now that he knows how shallow and weak their ‘love’ can be.


24 posted on 12/21/2013 11:32:16 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Antihero101607

Hmmm....it could be a well placed distraction.


25 posted on 12/21/2013 11:57:09 PM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: LeoWindhorse
If they smoked weed they would be more of Ron Paul kind of politics, but they did have pictures of themselves with Obamy.
26 posted on 12/22/2013 12:02:24 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: montanajoe

It Appears your World does not give you the Time to Understand the Constitution as Well. There does not NEED to be a Conflict with the Federal Government for a Company to be held Liable for Wrongful Termination of Employment over a Freedom of Speech Issue.


27 posted on 12/22/2013 12:21:42 AM PST by docman57 (Retired but still on Duty)
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To: docman57; montanajoe

Do we really want to delve into a quasi-socialistic pit here.

Sometimes it’s good to just go on to the next thing. It’s not as if the Robertsons are going to care about a little less gravy in their gravy train, not when they care about God more and are looking positively to a world beyond this mortal coil and to which their mammon can’t go.

Trying to bribe or threaten a resolute Christian will back fire on whoever did it. Badly. God is very jealous about what is under the Blood.


28 posted on 12/22/2013 12:32:35 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: lee martell
I’ve never seen the show. I’m not a follower of any show at present except some news shows. That said, until this suspension happened, followed by the tsunami of reaction, I had no idea the show was so hugely popular. The appearance from a few photos I’ve seen, is that this family is loved and cherished and listened to in the same way that The Waltons was loved back in the 1980s. Am I close here? I recall the dinner table scenes with all the family preparing to break bread and share what they have al worked for, another very significant American value.

Duck Dynasty is about a real family and Phil whom made the comments is the dad of his grown and families of their own four sons. Phil was a star college quarterback and holds a masters degree in education IIRC.

Willie his son next to the youngest is the CEO of Duck Commander a real company. His net worth last I read was $25M. He bought the company from his dad who founded the company making duck calls for which he holds U.S. Patents for. Willie and his wife brought the company into multimillion dollar a year business status. Willie is a college grad I think. I think he is also a minister.

Phil's oldest son Al is an ordained minister in The Church of Christ. Jase second oldest son is the designer of new duck calls. Si another one on the show about 65 maybe is Phil's younger brother and he too works for the company. Si I think is worth $5M now.

The show focuses first on Willie who narrates a lot of it acting bent out of shape over his brother and and his uncle Si's antics and misadventures. That is the TV show part. Usually at the end there is a moral summary as to the events and while at the table Phil says Grace to close the show.

In real life Phil, all four sons including the youngest Jeb, and Uncle Si as well as others on the show make personal appearances in venues such as churches, church gatherings, youth programs, etc witnessing about their faith and beliefs. That can be seen on Youtube. That may shed a little more light on why the left is after them.

Phil does have a wild past one he has repented for and found salvation and forgiveness from. He went from being a teacher to bar owner to down right scoundrel and he openly admits as much. He treated his wife and kids bad but his wife Kay stood by him praying for him until he finally changed. It is a real story.

29 posted on 12/22/2013 12:49:17 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Should we back off? No and here’s why. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2031059/posts It must be fought and ignoring it will not make it go away. It’s much deeper than Phil Robertson’s comments. Fight it now or have nothing soon left of our nation to fight for.


30 posted on 12/22/2013 12:53:32 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

I say be judicious about where to fight.

I say go ahead, let A&E cut its nose off to spite its face! This won’t bring down Duck Commander. It will only bring down what was a farce anyhow. A&E will be left with an orphan, albatross brand (the Duck Dynasty drek).

But maybe this could be the start of... hmm... something I wrote about wishfully about 4 years ago, a Redneck Revolution?

https://soundcloud.com/daniel-levy-6/redneck-revolution-demo


31 posted on 12/22/2013 12:58:45 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Antihero101607
Don’t care. We’re getting away from the stuff that matters.

To Democrats the ONLY thing that matters is forcibly changing the culture and destroying those that they don't like.
32 posted on 12/22/2013 1:01:29 AM PST by Wanderer99
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To: LeoWindhorse
hate to tell y’all but I have heard these Robertson characters are Democrats , who encourage folks to vote for Dems

Here they are with that prominent democRAT, Sarah Palin. /s


33 posted on 12/22/2013 1:02:13 AM PST by South40 (Liberalism is a Disease)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The gays attacked Phil. Their next target was aimed at Bob Newhart to stop him for speaking in a Catholic venue because of the churches views on homosexuality. You can't back off they take it as weakness and encouragement. A&E has huge parent corps that own the network both ABC/Disney and Hearst corp. A&E is a small part of the picture.

Doesn't any Feeeper find it odd that a certain senior reporter/host/interviewer working for ABC was denied an interview because Phil decided to go hunting and two days afterward this story broke?

34 posted on 12/22/2013 1:06:37 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: docman57
It Appears your World does not give you the Time to Understand the Constitution as Well. There does not NEED to be a Conflict with the Federal Government for a Company to be held Liable for Wrongful Termination of Employment over a Freedom of Speech Issue.

Wrongful termination of employment over a Freedom of Speech Issue?

Is there some such provision in Phil Robertson's employment contract?

If not, then what book of collectivist dogma does that ridiculous notion come from?

There's no such thing as "wrongful termination of employment" unless such termination is in breach of a contract which was signed by both parties.

In the absence of such an employment contract, the ownership of a company has an essentially absolute right to terminate any employee for any reason, or for no reason. There is not some unalienable right to keeping a job when an employee is no longer wanted by a company's ownership.

35 posted on 12/22/2013 1:06:37 AM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these here Boncentration Bamps!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Camille Paglia is trying to position herself “above the fray” much the same as Obama.

But it matters not because the gloves are coming off.

You should see the commentary of conservatives in Utah who are in shock that one judge can in a few days bring about a caravan of same-sex marriages where just a few days before conservatives were comfortable in thinking “Not in Our State”.

I wonder how Texans would react.


36 posted on 12/22/2013 1:10:51 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: cva66snipe

So let the parent corps suffer too. About time.


37 posted on 12/22/2013 1:11:30 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Did you actually read the article I linked? We are in this mess because we have not fought back. It is a well organized embedded in government, education, business, and even in churches, movement called Cultural Marxism aka Political Correctness. It is deadly serious. The man who penned the essay I linked to is no fool. If they can do that to Phil Robertson they can do it to you put you in jail like is happening in Canada for Hate Speech. It is the most important political. Not fighting it gave us Obama.
38 posted on 12/22/2013 1:18:51 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

Correction: It is the most important political battle facing our nation and if not soon addressed the deadliest in our nations history.


39 posted on 12/22/2013 1:20:58 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: mrsmel

Right about everything but that The Church of Christ is a denomination.
The Church is the blood bought institution Our Lord died for. If a Church does not wear His name or practice His commandments it is a denomination. I am thankful to be a member of The Church of Christ!


40 posted on 12/22/2013 2:14:59 AM PST by trustandobey
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To: Repeal The 17th

I bet they ride Harleys when nobody’s looking.

:-\


41 posted on 12/22/2013 2:23:02 AM PST by Salamander (Hey, Jack the Ripper, won't you come on over... hook me up to the power lines of your love...)
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To: Antihero101607

The war on Christians matters. They are trying to destroy Christianity. The propaganda is in everything from education to Hollywood. Our kids are taught that Christ is a myth. Teachers sneer and ridicule Christianity in the classroom. Meanwhile they are taught that Islam is a religion of peace.

I think he could have been more judicious in his choice of words, but God bless that man and his family for standing up for Christ. He did speak for me and my fellow believers.

Enough with the attacks on Christians in this nation. It matters. Free speech matters. Free exercise of religion matters. It matters more than Obamacare or the economy or any other thing that you think important.
It is the basis of our Constitution and strikes at the very heart of the freedoms they are taking away from we the people at an alarming rate.


42 posted on 12/22/2013 5:24:51 AM PST by stilloftyhenight (call it ODemocratcare)
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To: Antihero101607
Making the "Bible' hate speech sure does matter.

It is what your freedoms are based on. Not to mentions we are throwing freedom of religion and free speech out the door so a very small vocal minority group that causes great harm to themselves and others can feel better about themselves.

43 posted on 12/22/2013 5:40:46 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

44 posted on 12/22/2013 5:47:39 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Antihero101607; Jim Robinson
So someone denies freedom of speech, freedom of religion to someone and you choose not to defend them? So when it happens to you why should you be defended?

I have always believed that on Free Republic freedoms being denied MATTER! If they don't matter here what then is the point?

Least you forget:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out-- Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me--and there was no one left to speak for me.
Martin Niemöller

When it's you time do you want someone to speak for you? Or do you plan to stand alone?

45 posted on 12/22/2013 5:50:33 AM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: LeoWindhorse

Reading your post, I believe YOU smoke weed.


46 posted on 12/22/2013 6:05:02 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: LeoWindhorse

hate to tell y’all but I have heard these Robertson characters are Democrats ,
who encourage folks to vote for Dems . Is this true ?

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Well you can hear most anything if you listen and explore. But the truth maybe of a
different flavor when analyzed.

I don’t what their history of voting and supporting of candidates is but I do
know that Phil and Willie came out in support of Vance McAllister in the Nov. 16,
2013 CD 5 election in LA. McAllister, a Republican won and is now serving in D.C.

https://www.google.com/#q=phil+robertson+++endorses+vance+McAllister++


47 posted on 12/22/2013 6:12:22 AM PST by deport
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To: Antihero101607

It matters - deeply. Our country is based on Judeo-Christian tenants. In order for the left to obliterate the Constitution, they have to remove those tenants and our freedoms to live by them. People are starting to see that and fighting back.


48 posted on 12/22/2013 6:29:29 AM PST by Ladysmith (Every time another lib loses its job, an angel gets its wings.)
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To: Hostage

Utah in one week I think had “living polygamously together” and “homosexual marriage” legalized.
Polygamous marriage isn’t yet legal there, but a man, his wife and common law second wife are now legal to live together and plan on suing for their marriage to be fully legal.


49 posted on 12/22/2013 6:52:36 AM PST by tbw2
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To: Antihero101607

Exactly! All this brouhaha over less than 2% of people in this country who make it their goal every day when they wake up to “sell” the other 98% of us that two men laying in bed repeatedly sticking their penis in the rear end of the other is “normal”.

That we even engage in a passing conversation of this subject or pay it any mind at all much less suffer a NATIONAL ALL CONSUMING DEBATE about it is insanity.

This “insanity” of some sick men has been going on for centuries. That their “community” is still stuck on just 1.7% of the population is a material fact! Why don’t we all see that and give them 1.7% of the national attention instead of 98.3% of the national attention!

I say “to hell with em” and “forget about them”. They deserve no special standing and they are no special class entitled to ANYTHING, special.


50 posted on 12/22/2013 7:09:47 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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