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Police say they thwarted (another) shooting plot at (Trinidad) Colorado school
Fox News/AP ^ | December 21, 2013

Posted on 12/22/2013 3:03:46 AM PST by Zakeet

Police in southern Colorado say they thwarted a school shooting plot by two teenagers, one of whom idolized mass shooters, just a week after a student opened fire in the halls of a suburban Denver high school.

Police Chief Charles Glorioso said Friday that the department’s school resource officer got a tip Thursday that two boys, ages 15 and 16, planned to carry out the attack at Trinidad High School after winter break.

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Glorioso said investigators learned the 15-year-old had been bullied and had said he idolized the Columbine High School and Colorado theater shooters.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: colorado; foiled; guns; schools; schoolshooting; shooting

The little darlings felt bullied ... so they felt compelled to massacre the students and teachers here!

1 posted on 12/22/2013 3:03:47 AM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Product of liberal rot allowed to procreate


2 posted on 12/22/2013 3:07:33 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Zakeet

It might be quicker and easier to draw up a list of people who haven’t been bullied.


3 posted on 12/22/2013 3:12:30 AM PST by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: Zakeet

Trinidad is a beautiful town, but it, sadly, has moonbat Democrat politics.


4 posted on 12/22/2013 3:23:28 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Zakeet
For it to be reported that a kid "idolized mass shooters", it had to have been known long before now.

My theory is;

SOMEone useful idiot did not go nutz at the time he was supposed to, so they had to ramp up the "public awareness" (police foil plot to kill stoonts), just to keep the subject alive.

olucifercare is dead, and the faggot needs to keep SOMEthing going ... may as well be gun control (another dead issue_

5 posted on 12/22/2013 3:29:13 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

A state in the toilet because of its massive infestation by well-off leftists and their rotten spawn. One need go no further than CO’s village idiot CEO, Gov. Chickenpooper.


6 posted on 12/22/2013 3:30:05 AM PST by twister881
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To: Zakeet

Idolizing mass killers? These kids are fantasizing about the attention they’d get.

My heroes were Charles Bronson (Paul Kersey), John Wayne (Dare Rudd), Clint Eastwood (Oh, pick one). All of those guys were moral, good to the bone and protected the weak and innocent.

A recent remake of Bronson’s death wish movies made the main character an evil, vile killer. (He was in prison the whole time he committed the murders. He’d made a tunnel out.) It was the same revenge story, but where Kersey prominently wore a Christian cross (my recollection) symbolizing his higher moral stand than the establishment who were supposed to protect us, the remake was pure evil.

I think much of the mass killing is enabled by Hollywood’s eschewing God and morality in favor of base violence. It’s no longer enough to be good. You must be conflicted and do evil things (like the recent Superman remake.)

Disclaimer. I haven’t actually watched a Hollywood product in twenty years. I’ve only read about them.


7 posted on 12/22/2013 3:41:19 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Zakeet

A bigger Question in my mind is why CO is spawning these mass murdering types.

Also, why did these shooters off themselves when faced with capture instead of going down fighting when they have the resources to do so.

There is a bigger picture here.


8 posted on 12/22/2013 3:49:31 AM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Trinidad is a beautiful town, but it, sadly, has moonbat Democrat politics.

Trinidad is a cesspool and has been since it began as a coal mining town. It harboured such unlovely scum as Frank James,The Marloe gang, , the Daltons, Doc Holliday and many more of the old west banditti. The miners from Europe were kept in squalor and near slavery until well into the 20th century. Now, Trinidad is infested with street gangs. But one thing is for sure, the Democrats own it.

9 posted on 12/22/2013 4:02:05 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: Zakeet

These gamers with no future want to go out in blaze of notoriety. The news media provides it in spades, every time there is a school shooting. It doesn’t take a genius to figure this one out.


10 posted on 12/22/2013 4:37:37 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Zakeet

Another Colorado school incident — what’s going on out there???


11 posted on 12/22/2013 4:39:49 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Zakeet
one of whom idolized mass shooters,

I would bet that most of these things are indirectly or directly caused by the glare of publicity and heroization (to the twisted weirdos)of the perps when the mass shootings occur. The MSM and the leftist commentariat love them and will do what it can to get more of them.

12 posted on 12/22/2013 4:46:51 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Uncle Chip
violent video games, violent music, violent movies, violent TV, kids isolated from human contact by distracted or bad parents, “social media” that enhances bullying and allows bullied kids to build fantasy worlds to replace the real world, untreated mental illness that leads to kids like this being shunned and thus, "bullied"

It's not a Colorado thing, it's a cultural thing and it crosses cultures ..... change the genre to islam, the video games and TV to violent mosque rants, change the social media, and again you have teen (and older, mostly male but increasingly females too) sickos planning murder to avenge perceived wrongs

at least in CO this one was preempted
Now will some slick lawyer get these kids off because they were only fantasizing, had not yet gotten weapons, and sick fantasies are not a crime?

stay tuned

13 posted on 12/22/2013 4:56:26 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Zakeet
Glorioso said investigators learned the 15-year-old had been bullied and had said he idolized the Columbine High School and Colorado theater shooters.

Sometimes I wonder if the feds aren't behind some of these mass shooter websites. I wonder if the feds have chat rooms where they talk to these kids, like they do with the astroturf terrorists that they farm.

14 posted on 12/22/2013 4:58:21 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Standing Wolf
It might be quicker and easier to draw up a list of people who haven’t been bullied.

Sadly, there is a double meaning. The "no bullying" signs mean that students who identify as GiBLeTs are protected. Anyone else is fair game.

But, unlike the days where there were some kids who would beat a kid up, you knew who they were and either avoided or confronted them.

Now the crap travels at the speed of facebook aps on cell phones, and the sheer volume, vitriol, and polarity against an individual started by one puke with a snarky rumor can be amazing.

Imagine walking into a room full of people (many you barely know) and having them all hate you over something you do not even know you have been accused of.

I say that as a kid who went through years of crap in school before I learned to fight, and through race riots as well (in school).

While that made me tougher, that was in the days where at least some of the kids thought for themselves, and when you were better allowed to confront an accuser and sort things out.

15 posted on 12/22/2013 4:59:51 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: exit82

I agree. Why Colorado?, Why that part of the state? Is there something in the water or what?


16 posted on 12/22/2013 5:03:14 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Zakeet

The news media is feeding a fringe lunatic segment of society. Yes they are out there and loving it. The liberals and their lap dog media blame breaking the law (NOT to mention one of the ten commandments laws no),blame the mental health care system, blame less than astute prediction (profiling???!!!) and (O’yeah) blame the old bad guns.
Give it a rest. Let the locals take care of their own problems. If an area has a disproportionate volume of whackos it will sort its self out.
Wild west justice for these miscreants.


17 posted on 12/22/2013 5:04:55 AM PST by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not just selectively for Democrats.)
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To: silverleaf
Now will some slick lawyer get these kids off because they were only fantasizing, had not yet gotten weapons, and sick fantasies are not a crime?

I think every kid who has been ganged up on has dreamed of redeeming their self-respect by violent and public means, just that those means used to be limited by social constraints which would make them less lethal.

Media, from film to video games, have cheapened human life, and we have been progressively desensitized toward violence since the '60s.

So you end up with kids who fantasize about getting even with those who attack their self-esteem and then act out on the fantasy because the moral constraints which used to be fairly widespread have been systematically destroyed. Once the sanctity of human life is unrecognized at any particular level, the rest is a slippery slope.

18 posted on 12/22/2013 5:11:43 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Lion Den Dan
The Democrats have owned Trinidad since at least 1914. That was the year of the Ludlow Massacre.
Republican Governor Elias M. Ammons sent the Colorado national Guard to the little town of Ludlow to help quell a strike a the CF&I mines (owned by John D. Rockefeller). The troops fired on the mostly unarmed striking miners, killing at least 20. Since then, that whole area has been pretty much Democrat. Look it up on Wikipedia, it was pretty gruesome
19 posted on 12/22/2013 5:50:38 AM PST by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: silverleaf

Yes, all of those items mentioned contributed to Colombine and other mass shootings. One thing, actually the biggest reason for Colombine and other shootings, I suspect, is the worship of celebrity and the desire to be famous. In the case of the Colombine shooters, they fantasized about how notorious they would be after they killed all those other students. Their main plan was to blow up the cafeteria killing hundreds of students. The shooting spree was supposed to happen outside the school when survivors from the cafeteria were trying to escape a burning and collapsed building. Thankfully, their bomb failed. Anyhow, this desire to be famous and idolized by some for criminal deeds, has been around since Jesse James and Billy the Kid. Bonnie Parker is a perfect example of this. It took the psycho Colombine pair to make school shootings a path to instant fame/infamy.


20 posted on 12/22/2013 5:52:08 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: Zakeet

After reading the article, I am not sure that these students were actually going to do anything. Details in the story are skimpy. They did not even have any weapons. Saying you are going to do something is a lot different from actually doing it. Anyhow, I suppose the police had to take the information seriously. If the students were taking concrete actions, than the arrests were warranted. If they students were just shooting off their mouths, I suppose some sort of counseling and or other corrective action should have been done. You can’t be certain on this until more details are released.


21 posted on 12/22/2013 5:58:42 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: Lion Den Dan

What has happened to my beautiful Trinidad that we went to for Rodeos back in 1951! It is not the same place at all since my dad lived at Branson, later moving to Gladstone, NM.


22 posted on 12/22/2013 7:51:08 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Recompennation

***The news media is feeding a fringe lunatic segment of society.***

How true. In the olden days, a massacre could occur. The locals would know of it in one day.
The county would know about it in a week.
The entire state would know about it n a month.
The US capitol might know about it in three months, decide not to take action as it would be considered a state problem.

Now, less than five minutes such a thing is broadcast around the world, and those with a personal agenda will trot out pre-made acts to vote into law.


23 posted on 12/22/2013 7:56:22 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: 3Fingas

*** If they students were just shooting off their mouths,***

My dad always warned us kids to NEVER SAY YOU WANT TO KILL SOMEONE! If that person suddenly turns up dead YOU would be the first suspect.


24 posted on 12/22/2013 7:59:39 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Trinidad is a dump.

I know. I’ve spent a couple of years of my life there.

It’s a dump.

There’s some beautiful natural scenery, but the town is a festering dump. It is lock-step unionized, and the unions have gamed the contractor/trades employment situation so badly that no one repairs their real estate because it a) costs too much to have a “licensed contractor” do it, and b) they can’t get it past inspections without having a licensed contractor do it.

The only nice real estate or well-kept houses are pretty much in a three block square under the Trinidad sign on the hill northwest of town. Other than that, nice properties are dotted here and there around town, mostly surrounded by clapped-out, falling-down, ramshackle shacks.

Once you’ve been around enough towns in the American west, you can tell whether you’re in a town that started from an agrarian base or a mining base. The mining towns always look rougher. Matter of fact, most mining towns, even when there is active, economically prosperous mining happening right now, look like crap. Miners don’t give a flying fig whether they live in a slum or not.

In Southern Colorado, it is mostly union mining towns, and they’re a special subset of the run-down armpits that are mining towns.


25 posted on 12/22/2013 8:51:46 AM PST by NVDave
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The school is 64% Hispanic, 54% on free/reduced lunches, has a 3 out of 10 test score rating, and 2 out of 10 for making accademic progress.

http://www.greatschools.org/colorado/trinidad/1481-Trinidad-High-School/

That sums up the mentality of these kids, their parents and the school.


26 posted on 12/22/2013 8:52:16 AM PST by bgill
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Simple.

The unions killed off the CF&I steel plant in Pueblo.

After that steel plant went downhill, the dipsticks in the entire southern area of CO got onto welfare. Most people don’t know this, but more than one third of the population of Las Animas county is on welfare. They’re mooches. Rather than pick up and move to where there is economic activity, the mooches have stayed in place, breeding more mooches.

The coal mines shut down. The agrarian base has dried up (literally). They have grazed their rangeland down to nothing but sticks and rabbitbrush. The unions have killed off most of the economic activity in the town with their absurd labor rates and institutionalized extortion of homeowners and property managers.


27 posted on 12/22/2013 8:57:20 AM PST by NVDave
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To: Standing Wolf
Exactly. Everyone gets bullied at one time or another throughout their lives but it hasn't been until recently that, instead of settling it between the two involved, we're now taking it out on everyone else. I don't recall ever hearing about a school shooting when I was growing and certainly no school was bulldozed for it. From a search, it appears from the 1700s to about 1900, you could count the number of school shootings on one hand. The number of incidents greatly increased around the turn of the century but were still rare. They slowly increased through the 1900s but have exploded in recent years. It's my belief it is a result of poor parenting and a breakdown of social morals. Humankind is fast slipping down the hill and gaining speed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States

28 posted on 12/22/2013 9:21:21 AM PST by bgill
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

That’s good advice.


29 posted on 12/22/2013 9:27:02 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: Lion Den Dan

It is a beautiful town, but as much as it is, and I hate to say this, you are right. It is a cesspool of violent gangs, primarily Hispanic gangs these days. The wife was a mental health consultant to a facility there and I used to fly in for dinner. I always carried and stayed to main street.


30 posted on 12/22/2013 9:36:31 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: CodeToad

Isn’t Trinidad also the home of a doctor who specializes in lopadickoffome and addadicktome surgery?


31 posted on 12/23/2013 10:23:19 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Yep. It was right next to her facility. Creepy place. We would see them in town, pre and post op.


32 posted on 12/23/2013 11:42:31 AM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: CodeToad

Next-door, eh?

Ain’t irony wonderful?


33 posted on 12/23/2013 11:43:52 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Zakeet

I am sure they came from a fine, tolerant, leftist family too


34 posted on 12/23/2013 11:48:37 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Zakeet

What the hell is wrong with Colorado? Is it heavily satanic,gay,athiest, feminist or what?


35 posted on 12/24/2013 1:11:41 PM PST by stellaluna
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