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Obama Says 1 Million Signed up for Health Care (BS!!!)
ABC News ^ | 12/22/2013 | RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR and JULIE PACE

Posted on 12/22/2013 5:42:34 AM PST by tobyhill

His health care plan facing a dicey transition, President Barack Obama said Friday that insurance sign-ups are surging now that the government's website is working better for consumers. But it was too soon to say the rollout has turned the corner.

More than 1 million people have enrolled since Oct. 1, Obama said at his end-of-the-year press conference. That's more than two-and-a-half times the number on Nov. 30, when major fixes to the website were completed. At that point, only 365,000 had signed up through new federal and state markets offering subsidized private insurance.

"That is a big deal," Obama said of getting coverage for uninsured people. "That's why I ran for this office."

Separately, officials said 3.9 million people have qualified for government health care through the law's Medicaid expansion. Even so, things aren't exactly humming along.

HealthCare.gov was down for part of the day Friday, as technicians attempted to fix an error that occurred Thursday night when the site was undergoing routine maintenance, officials explained.

The administration cannot afford for the balky website to crash this weekend. Because of Monday's deadline to sign up so coverage can take effect Jan. 1, unusually heavy traffic is expected on the federal site and those run by states.

Largely hidden from consumers, another set of technical problems is frustrating insurers, who say the government continues to send them inaccurate data on some enrolled individuals. Insurers call some of those jumbled enrollment files "orphans" and others "ghosts."

They could turn into gremlins after Jan. 1 for some patients trying to use their new coverage. Consumers might show up at the pharmacy counter or doctor's office only to be told they're not in the system.

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1 posted on 12/22/2013 5:42:34 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

By the summer of 2014, they’ll be handing out ObamaCare policies with the food stamp cards, in time for the fall elections. Of course, no one will get to see a doctor, but hey, they’ll have “health care coverage.”


2 posted on 12/22/2013 5:45:31 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: tobyhill

1 million is not impressive at all. If that is a lie, it is not a great one. They expected about 7 million by Monday originally. Plus not a single person has paid yet. Even with the extension, I can’t imagine how people will have extra money right after Christmas to pay for these outrageous costs.


3 posted on 12/22/2013 5:45:59 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: txrefugee
This is so stupid. They should have just put those original 36 million without insurance on the Medicaid program. Believe it or not, it would have saved us money in the long run after this monstrosity.
4 posted on 12/22/2013 5:47:15 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: tobyhill

Whatever lie the Tyrant claims,
his plants owning the MSM will support him gladly
in his (and their) destruction of America.


5 posted on 12/22/2013 5:49:29 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: tobyhill

“Consumers might show up at the pharmacy counter or doctor’s office only to be told they’re not in the system.”

Doesn’t it have a $7000 deductible anyhow?


6 posted on 12/22/2013 5:49:40 AM PST by MNDude
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To: napscoordinator

The goal was never to save money.
The goal was never to provide healthcare.
The goal was never to help the poor.

The goal is control, and it’s all working out perfectly.


7 posted on 12/22/2013 5:50:48 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: tobyhill

According to joe biteme, “This is a big F’n deal!”. More like a raw deal. And, as usual, the “lyin’ king” lives up to his nickname. What’d he score on his round of golf yesterday? 18? Hole in one on every hole?


8 posted on 12/22/2013 5:51:11 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: tobyhill
Actually, I think Obama said 1 million people have "selected" health insurance. That means they dropped a plan into their "shopping cart". It does not mean they pressed the "buy" button. And it certainly does not mean they have made their first payment, which is the traditional measure of "enrollment".

You have to parse the words to understand the spin. The lies continue.

9 posted on 12/22/2013 5:52:23 AM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: tobyhill

Ya - all of those twitter followers.


10 posted on 12/22/2013 5:54:18 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: napscoordinator

Personally, I think that the goal is to force lots of people onto Medicaid in an attempt to bankrupt the states and make them more dependant on the Federal Government.


11 posted on 12/22/2013 5:54:32 AM PST by Ueriah
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To: tobyhill
Even if his number is accurate, (nobody believes it is), 1mil is a far cry from the rest of the population, that's supposed to be signed up in the next 9 days.
12 posted on 12/22/2013 5:54:38 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Senator_Blutarski

and it will sit in the shopping cart which most probably forgot about when they saw the price tag. There has been many times I forgot to hit the “remove” button.


13 posted on 12/22/2013 5:55:23 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: Graybeard58

Clown Prince nobama lies to us at Christmas...what a degenerate fool.


14 posted on 12/22/2013 5:56:58 AM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: napscoordinator
This is so stupid. They should have just put those original 36 million without insurance on the Medicaid program. Believe it or not, it would have saved us money in the long run after this monstrosity.

I suggested that it might have been cheaper, a couple of weeks ago and was castigated for it. Not that medicaid would have been better or that medicaid is a good thing, just that it would have been cheaper.

15 posted on 12/22/2013 5:57:44 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Ueriah
That was the goal and Medicaid Expansion has been Obama’s glowing success part of Obamacare.
Medicaid is the tool that Obama intended to direct America to a single payer.
16 posted on 12/22/2013 5:57:51 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Lies are to Obama as breathing is to the rest of us.


17 posted on 12/22/2013 5:58:09 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: tobyhill

And how many LOST or will lose their insurance??


18 posted on 12/22/2013 6:00:19 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Graybeard58; napscoordinator

Not just cheaper. It would have been a lot cheaper. The vast majority of people without coverage do so by choice because they are healthy and have minimal health care costs. If they aren’t going to the doctor now, they won’t go when they have Medicaid either.


19 posted on 12/22/2013 6:01:32 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: MNDude
Doesn’t it have a $7000 deductible anyhow?

Some plans, more than that.

Medicare is around $150 deductible then it's 80/20 thereafter, with about $105 per month premium.

Not that one has anything to do with the other, other than the fact that they are both socialist/communist plans.

20 posted on 12/22/2013 6:01:43 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: tobyhill

Signed up maybe, probably not. How many of that million actually paid the insurer and have an actual policy?


21 posted on 12/22/2013 6:02:27 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: tobyhill
More than 1 million people have enrolled since Oct. 1, Obama said at his end-of-the-year press conference. That's more than two-and-a-half times the number on Nov. 30, when major fixes to the website were completed. At that point, only 365,000 had signed up through new federal and state markets offering subsidized private insurance.

"That is a big deal," Obama said of getting coverage for uninsured people. "That's why I ran for this office."


"The administration had hoped that 3.3 million would be signed up by the end of this month, according to a memo prepared by the Health and Human Services Department in early September."

That is a bigger deal, Hussein!


22 posted on 12/22/2013 6:02:38 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Ueriah

It’s all about data mining...your bank accounts and the govt rights to collect. No lookback here like in Medicaid. That’s the BIG difference.


23 posted on 12/22/2013 6:02:49 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Senator_Blutarski

Even if they did press the “buy” button, would they actually have health insurance? If the back end is not yet in place, I don’t think they can legitimately say anyone that has signed up for Obamacare actually has insurance.


24 posted on 12/22/2013 6:02:49 AM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: tobyhill

“THE BIGGEST LIAR TO EVER SERVE AS PRESIDENT HAS LIED ONCE AGAIN TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN HE CLAIMED MORE THAN 1 MILLION PEOPLE SELECTED A PROGRAM BY LEAVING IN THEIR SHOPPING CART AFTER FAINTING AT THE ENORMOUS COST OF THEIR ONLINE ESTIMATE”.

This would be an honest headline perhaps 30 years ago... but we have no free press left in America and the evil that parades as a press corps is doing satan’s bidding.


25 posted on 12/22/2013 6:03:21 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: tobyhill
re: “Separately, officials said 3.9 million people have qualified for government health care through the law's Medicaid expansion.”

So, let me get this right: for every 1 then signs up for Obamacare, 4 sign up for Medicaid?

26 posted on 12/22/2013 6:03:47 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: tobyhill

How many WROTE CHECKS? That is the number I want to see.

Probably 1% of that number if that.


27 posted on 12/22/2013 6:03:54 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Graybeard58

$105 is for Part B & no prescription. You still need a supplement for C & D....about $100 a month


28 posted on 12/22/2013 6:04:37 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: tobyhill
It could be 100 million enrolled....what matters is who actually has paid...
29 posted on 12/22/2013 6:06:13 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Sacajaweau
$105 is for Part B & no prescription. You still need a supplement for C & D....about $100 a month

Just going by my own experience, my supplementary policy is through my former employer and includes a prescription drug plan as well as dental and vision. Former employer also reimburses me for medicare premiums.

My former employer is also the primary provider for my wife and two minor children, who aren't on Medicare.

30 posted on 12/22/2013 6:10:27 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Graybeard58; napscoordinator

Only cheaper in the immediate as compared to the money wasted by the child king. As the uninsured were across the spectrum on income, you would get twice as many at the trough the next year.
The cheapest and most effective plan would be for the federal government to exit healthcare stage right.


31 posted on 12/22/2013 6:10:55 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: tobyhill

Carney on January 15, 2014, “The president misspoke when he said 1 million. He meant 50.”


32 posted on 12/22/2013 6:13:55 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: tobyhill

If King FUBO said it, it’s a damn lie.


33 posted on 12/22/2013 6:14:19 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: tobyhill

I hear that to encourage applications, the government is making them available at Target stores.


34 posted on 12/22/2013 6:14:41 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: tobyhill

I don’t believe that number any more than I believe their unemployment figures. Even if by some miracle it is true. (And I do mean that would be miraculous) Let’s talk about the roughly 5x that many people who have lost their insurance coverage due to obamacare. If it really was about helping people, then you should recognize and concede it is an utter failure and repeal it, all of it, not this little piece by piece bs. But then, obamacare never really was about helping people, was it? It is about power and control. That is why they won’t abandon it, no matter how obviously flawed it is.


35 posted on 12/22/2013 6:15:10 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: napscoordinator
It would be particularly unimpressive if more than 1 million have had their insurance canceled, which seems to be the case. We seem to have many individuals -- probably millions of individuals -- who have received cancellation notices, but now have no way to buy insurance -- and no requirement that they do so.
36 posted on 12/22/2013 6:25:02 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: ogen hal
Clown Prince nobama lies to us at Christmas...what a degenerate fool.

Remember it is OK for a muslime to lie to infidels.

37 posted on 12/22/2013 6:27:28 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Graybeard58

I’ve always had to pay my own health insurance so I’m in a different position.


38 posted on 12/22/2013 6:40:31 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Red in Blue PA

How many HAD to write checks. The people that are signed up are the same ones that filled up the chairs at the Emergency room...where there is a HUGE sign....”No one is turned away”.


39 posted on 12/22/2013 6:41:55 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: tobyhill

Why he continues to talk is amazing when only those with an IQ that is lower than a rock believe ANYTHING he says or does.

It is so bad that even his reflection in the mirror does not believe him.


40 posted on 12/22/2013 6:49:05 AM PST by chiefqc
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To: tobyhill

*sigh* maybe some day there will be a media that asks a follow up question such as “How many people, out of those 1 million that have selected a plan, have actually PAID?”


41 posted on 12/22/2013 7:06:29 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it. Period.)
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To: tobyhill

Doesn’t matter as there are few doctors and few hospitals who will take Obama’s garbage.


42 posted on 12/22/2013 7:12:31 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: tobyhill

43 posted on 12/22/2013 7:16:26 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: tobyhill
Yep! In his speech before taking questions he claimed 1M had signed up but the first questioner, Julie Pace of AP, commented on his credibility that has taken a hit because of Obamacare.

Obama responds - On the other hand, since the last press conference, I now have a couple million people, maybe more, who are going to have health care on January 1st. And that is a big deal. That's why I ran for this office.

So with in a few min. he goes from 1M to a couple of million.

Who in their right mind can believe any thing the POS says?

44 posted on 12/22/2013 7:19:32 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: tobyhill

A few of them don’t even get subsidies !

Some aren’t even illegal aliens !


45 posted on 12/22/2013 7:24:25 AM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: tobyhill

Calypso Louis’ Million Man Math.


46 posted on 12/22/2013 7:26:19 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: tobyhill
Of the approx. 1.2 million nationwide who have signed up on the federal site or a state site, the majority signed up for Medicaid. The number of sign ups for private health insurance and Medicaid combined are about 3.8 million less than the number of people whose insurance was cancelled.

So right now the real number is -4.8 million compared to where we started. To get to the President's goal of insuring 7 million uninsured people we first have to re-insure 4.8 million people who lost their insurance. So basically 1.2 million of the 12 million people now in need of insurance have signed up (or at least they hope the website actually signed them up).

Its a gigantic failure.

47 posted on 12/22/2013 7:34:56 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: Red_Devil 232
The President: "I now have a couple million people, maybe more, who are going to have health care on January 1st."

Like most liberals, math isn't his strong suit. He forgot the 5 million people whose insurance was cancelled. He should have said:

"I now have 4 million fewer people insured than when we started..."

48 posted on 12/22/2013 7:37:18 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: tobyhill
The last benefit left for the obamacare supporters is that it covers more people. Obamacare is not cheaper, people are losing doctors and hospitals, and, about a million people have lost coverage. I have read two liberal pundits who said they are waiting to see if more people are covered January 1. One said that he would feel like a chump if there are more that lost their coverage than got covered under Obamacare.

First Obama delayed employer plans from obamacare. This left about 1 million that have lost coverage. Now all Obama has to do is to claim that over 1 million have secured coverage under Obamacare, and that the number who lost coverage is less than that.

49 posted on 12/22/2013 7:47:43 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: Graybeard58
1mil is a far cry from the rest of the population, that's supposed to be signed up in the next 9 days.

Actually, they have less then two days. They must be signed up by the 23rd, per the Obama delay from the 15th.

Now, to address a more important issue: .-- .... -.-- / .- .-. . / -.-- --- ..- / ... .... .. .-.. .-.. .. -. --. / ..-. --- .-. / -. . ... - .-.. . ... ..--..

50 posted on 12/22/2013 9:22:23 AM PST by Wingy
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