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Fears multiply amid surge in deportations
Worcester Telegram ^ | December 22, 2013 | Julia Preston THE NEW YORK TIMES

Posted on 12/22/2013 7:51:10 PM PST by moonshinner_09

NEW ORLEANS — Karen Sandoval's promising life in this city fell apart in one day last summer when she went to buy school supplies for her two daughters.

Sandoval, a Honduran immigrant here illegally, was riding with the man her girls have always called their father. Immigration agents, seeing a dilapidated car, pulled them over. They released Sandoval but detained her partner, a Nicaraguan also here illegally, and he was soon deported.

Now Sandoval, 28, is grieving her loss and scrambling to support her children without her partner, Enrique Morales, and the income from his thriving flooring business. She sees no future for the girls, who are both American citizens, in her home country or his. So Sandoval is facing the possibility that she may never see Morales again.

"It is very difficult to explain to two little girls that Daddy will not be with us anymore," Sandoval said.

Since taking office, President Barack Obama has deported more than 1.9 million foreigners, immigration officials announced last week, a record for an American president. The officials said they focused on removing criminals, serious immigration offenders and recent border crossers, with 98 percent of deportees in 2013 in those groups, while sparing workers and their families. Obama is also pressing for an overhaul of immigration laws with a path to citizenship for those here illegally.

But immigrant leaders say the enforcement has a broad impact on their communities, with deportations still separating bread-winning parents from children and unauthorized immigrants from family members here legally, including American citizens.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegram.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigration; la
On Nov. 14, nearly two dozen demonstrators, including 14 immigrants without legal status, tied up midday traffic at one of the city's busiest intersections for nearly three hours until the local police arrested them. ...3 hours to arrest 24 people..my gosh they need some intense retraining in La.
1 posted on 12/22/2013 7:51:10 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

what ‘surge’ in deportations??? last I saw the O admin had dropped out of that game pretty much all together


2 posted on 12/22/2013 7:52:49 PM PST by Nifster
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To: moonshinner_09
Since taking office, President Barack Obama has deported more than 1.9 million foreigners, immigration officials announced last week, a record for an American president.

And I've got a nice little bridge in Brooklyn that I'm willing to let go cheap.

3 posted on 12/22/2013 7:54:19 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all my fellow Americans. "Whatever" to everybody else!)
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To: moonshinner_09
Since taking office, President Barack Obama has deported more than 1.9 million foreigners, immigration officials announced last week, a record for an American president.

He's a real hero, I tell ya. A hero!

4 posted on 12/22/2013 7:54:36 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: All

look for more stories like this over the next month or so. The media will do what they can to carry Obama’s water on “immigration reform”..


5 posted on 12/22/2013 7:55:07 PM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: Nifster

nothing but cover for amnesty


6 posted on 12/22/2013 7:55:28 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: moonshinner_09

This is a way to distract people from the fact our unemployment rate is unreasonably high, and there are no jobs.

Yet businesses want MORE IMMIGRATION.

No. Enforce our borders, and stop bringing in illegals at least until the unemployment rate falls below 5%.

5% at most in my opinion.

Not one bit higher.


7 posted on 12/22/2013 7:58:21 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty, bring him back...)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

That’s a damn lie. They think they can say anything and folks our here will buy it. No sale.


8 posted on 12/22/2013 7:59:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Deportation is what happens when an illegal votes for a Republican and they find out.


9 posted on 12/22/2013 8:02:51 PM PST by Slyfox (We want our PRE-EXISTING HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Yeah, I fear it’s all a sham and they’ll pass amnesty next year. You mean that kind of fear?


10 posted on 12/22/2013 8:06:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Maybe Sandoval will use his newly learned American inginuity and floorimg talents to help Honduras become a country that is more accepting of illegal imigrants?


11 posted on 12/22/2013 8:12:56 PM PST by jcon40
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To: moonshinner_09
Enrique Morales, and the income from his thriving flooring business

Yeah, my business would thrive, too, if I weren't constantly paying local, state, and federal taxes and endlessly recurring and increasing assessments and regulatory fees.

12 posted on 12/22/2013 8:13:16 PM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: moonshinner_09
Fears multiply amid surge in deportations

Good. Maybe if they're so fearful they'll leave on their own accord and save the taxpayers a buck or two.

On your way out, don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you.

I still think we should deploy the National Guard and the militias to the border - shoot on sight, as a hostile invader, any illegals trying to cross. Add landmines for additional security.

If the liberals keep shedding tears for the illegal invaders, they'll cry another river the illegals will have to swim across.

13 posted on 12/22/2013 8:15:09 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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>> “It is very difficult to explain to two little girls that Daddy will not be with us anymore,” Sandoval said.

LOL, cuz Daddy ain’t worth the freebies....


14 posted on 12/22/2013 8:19:21 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: moonshinner_09

I fear being arrested after robbing banks.


15 posted on 12/22/2013 8:20:33 PM PST by Mark (If CON is the opposite of PRO, what is the opposite of progress?)
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To: moonshinner_09

The international left intends to swamp western societies with third world immigration. If it happens, we are doomed.


16 posted on 12/22/2013 8:22:49 PM PST by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: moonshinner_09

I am listening to an internet radio station, and the advertising programming is “different”...

They just had a commercial on for health care for ALL ‘Americans’ including ILLEGALS.

From something called “The California Endowment” which when I looked it up, appears to be a boatload of liberal turds.


17 posted on 12/22/2013 8:25:51 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: rlmorel

I wonder how much tax funding they get


18 posted on 12/22/2013 8:27:00 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: moonshinner_09
So, how many violations of law can anyone count in the first three paragraphs of this sob story?

  1. "Sandoval, a Honduran immigrant here illegally"
  2. "her partner, a Nicaraguan also here illegally"
  3. "Enrique Morales, and the income from his thriving flooring business"

"So Sandoval is facing the possibility that she may never see Morales again."

I'm sure both Honduras and Nicaragua allow an immigrant foreigner to marry a citizen. Just pick a country, and the other spouse moves there. It should be nearly automatic.

But, of course, it's tougher if they want to live together in a country where they have no right to reside. Then yes, any chance encounter with an LEO can change all that. Maybe they should live where they have a residence permit? It's not healthy to be on the lam for their whole life.

I'm sure Mr. Morales, being such a good businessman, will have a new business up and running at home, in Nicaragua, in no time. (Unless that business depends on not being registered with the state, and not paying taxes, and not having a shingle to hang out.)

19 posted on 12/22/2013 8:27:19 PM PST by Greysard
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To: rlmorel

Is it that “Health4All” campaign I see plastered all over bush shelters and BART stations here in the SF Bay Area? That’s a pretty aggressive campaign and it’s all about insuring illegal aliens.


20 posted on 12/22/2013 8:31:05 PM PST by thecodont
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To: moonshinner_09

Let me get this straight.

According to the the new pravda, an illegal immigrant who

can’t speak English has a promising future, but the blacks

who have been here for generations don’t.


21 posted on 12/22/2013 8:36:24 PM PST by logitech (It is time.)
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To: FoxInSocks

He’s also undercutting flooring businesses run by citizens and legal immigrants.


22 posted on 12/22/2013 8:36:42 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer; workerbee
RE: “Since taking office, President Barack Obama has deported more than 1.9 million foreigners, immigration officials announced last week, a record for an American president.”

The Center for Immigration Studies has been all over this ludicrous claim.

Link:

http://cis.org/ICE-Illegal-Immigrant-Deportations

More than half that number comes from Border Patrol arrests that were never counted in the past.

Also, CIS debunked the claim that Obama had set a new record against other presidents.

They compared him to GWBush at this point in his administration, and Bush won, even though Bush supported Amnesty as much as Obama.

I can't find the link for that story, but it's on the CIS website some place.

23 posted on 12/22/2013 8:37:07 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: moonshinner_09
But immigrant leaders say the enforcement has a broad impact on their communities,

I'm wanting explanation on this sentence....

Immigrant Leaders ?

24 posted on 12/22/2013 8:42:06 PM PST by onona (The Earth is the insane asylum for the universe (yup, I belong))
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To: FoxInSocks

“Enrique Morales, and the income from his thriving flooring business”

“Immigration agents, seeing a dilapidated car, pulled them over.”

So if he has a “thriving flooring business,” how come he’s driving a dilapidated car? Oh, I know, it makes him feel closer to Honduras or Nicaragua, because that’s what all the cars there look like!


25 posted on 12/22/2013 8:58:57 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

I think there are jobs out there you may have to relocate to find them. Been retired for 2 or 3 years decided I would get a job. Looking part time found many jobs here in my small town, at each I was given an app and told to fill it out, and so I left went home and filled it out. Bought them back and in all but one instance was met by some kid with bleached hair, spiked, nose ring, and tattoos telling me to leave it and he would put it in the pile.

That wasn’t going to happen, all my personal info in the hands of a child that looked like this, no thanks. So I tried to go around the gatekeepers by asking for the manager, no go, tried that at 2 businesses 3 times then I tried to go around by phone. Highest I got was an assistant manager who could not hire me anyway.

After several different attempts at several different businesses finally by phone got hold of the owners wife of a different business she had a brain. Sent in an app and was hired.

Jobs are now being filled in this area by retirees because, I am told, A when they hire young kids they don’t show or only for a day or two. B It is, so the owner tells me, they don’t know how to work and have no work ethic at all C they don’t have any interest in learning the job. D They are plain lazy. This is what I have been told. I have ran and owned small businesses in the past it was not this bad even 5 years ago.

If you want a job, even a job a few years ago you wouldn’t have considered, you have to earn it by your persistence.

Merry Christmas!


26 posted on 12/22/2013 9:08:48 PM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: moonshinner_09

Did that happen in New Orleans? If it did I must have missed it. The NOPD and state troopers as well as the area residents do not take kindly to people backing up traffic. But with Mitch Landreiu as mayor he probably restrained the police.


27 posted on 12/22/2013 9:10:58 PM PST by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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To: moonshinner_09

“Sandoval, a Honduran immigrant here illegally, was riding with the man her girls have always called their father. Immigration agents, seeing a dilapidated car, pulled them over. They released Sandoval but detained her partner, a Nicaraguan also here illegally, and he was soon deported.

Now Sandoval, 28, is grieving her loss and scrambling to support her children without her partner, Enrique Morales, and the income from his thriving flooring business. She sees no future for the girls, who are both American citizens, in her home country or his. So Sandoval is facing the possibility that she may never see Morales again.”

Nothing stopping them from leaving to be with him. The flooring business couldn’t have been that good, they were driving such a dilapidated car that it caught attention...
You brought this on yourselves, I don’t share your grief.


28 posted on 12/22/2013 9:21:35 PM PST by jughandle
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
>> Enforce our borders, and stop bringing in illegals at least until the unemployment rate falls below 5%. <<
29 posted on 12/22/2013 10:09:40 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: jcon40

Why didn’t he marry the woman? That would be the honorable thing to do. But wait, honor isn’t in the game plan, is it?


30 posted on 12/22/2013 11:04:22 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: moonshinner_09

fta... Obama has deported more than 1.9 million foreigners, immigration officials announced last week, a record for an American president.
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That’s BS! Eisenhower had 5 million illegals deported in “Operation Wetback”.

Also, 2 million deportations only represents maybe 20% of the illegals in the US.

This constant BS about separating minor children from their parents is a liberal mantra. Minor kids are the responsibility of their parents, so if the parents are deported the kids go with them. If the kids were born in the US, then when they reach majority age they can go to a US Consulate in their country, present proof and apply to legally enter the US as a native born citizen.

I’m also curious how the man mentioned in the article was able to run an apparently money making flooring business without falsification of legal documents, like the SS card.


31 posted on 12/23/2013 12:07:57 AM PST by octex
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To: moonshinner_09
"Immigration agents, seeing a dilapidated car…"
"….thriving flooring business.

…ahem..

32 posted on 12/23/2013 12:25:33 AM PST by moehoward
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To: workerbee

“Since taking office, President Barack Obama has deported more than 1.9 million foreigners”.....

If indeed they were actually deported, he let them and all their relatives, sneak back across the Rio Grande once again. Soon, they will become citizens by default (The de-fault of odumbo)


33 posted on 12/23/2013 3:13:30 AM PST by Progov
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To: moonshinner_09

Tough! She broke the law and then pumped out a couple of human shields she thought would protect her.


34 posted on 12/23/2013 6:07:47 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfusbutcher)
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To: jughandle
The flooring business couldn’t have been that good, they were driving such a dilapidated car that it caught attention...

Depends on where they lived. In some 'hoods a mechanically sound but beat up looking car is the best defense against it being stolen or vandalized.

35 posted on 12/23/2013 7:40:00 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: logitech
According to the the new pravda, an illegal immigrant who can’t speak English has a promising future, but the blacks who have been here for generations don’t.

Willingness to actually work has a bearing on that. And did the article state that he couldn't speak English?

I'd willingly trade that kind of illegal for an equal number of thugs, hoodrats, their third generation EBT babymamas and methhead trailer trash to be sent to the country of origin.

36 posted on 12/23/2013 7:48:45 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

I reread the article and it sounds like the “illegal” could speak English.

My point was that according to the the media, the “dreamers” can dream but the downtrodden citizen is hopelessly lost.

In other words, they report with forked tongue.


37 posted on 12/23/2013 8:02:05 AM PST by logitech (It is time.)
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