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Ex-CIA director: Snowden should be ‘hanged’ if convicted for treason
Fox ^ | Dec 17 2013 | Lucas Tomlinson

Posted on 12/22/2013 10:04:24 PM PST by WilliamIII

Former CIA Director James Woolsey had harsh words Tuesday for anyone thinking about giving Edward Snowden amnesty, and argued the NSA leaker should be “hanged” if he’s ever tried and convicted of treason.

Woolsey, along with former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Hugh Shelton, spoke Tuesday in Washington in an interview with Fox News.

“I think giving him amnesty is idiotic,” Woolsey said. “He should be prosecuted for treason. If convicted by a jury of his peers, he should be hanged by his neck until he is dead."

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: deathtotyrants; espionage; fascism; policestate; snowden; treason; woolsey
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He's revealed to Americans they're being spied on by their government. So he must die.
1 posted on 12/22/2013 10:04:24 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

Yes, cannot have those dastardly Freepers knowing that we watch their every post!

These people are sick control freaks. Snowden deserves thanks for exposing the Orwellian state we live in, regardless of the not-so subtle methods he used. I hope he marries a nice Russian girl and they are never caught by Obama’s thugs.


2 posted on 12/22/2013 10:08:58 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: WilliamIII

Any word on how Woolsey feels about the people who were wholesale spying on innocent American citizens?


3 posted on 12/22/2013 10:10:36 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: WilliamIII

“He should be prosecuted for treason. If convicted by a jury of his peers, he should be hanged by his neck until he is dead.”........................................ Hmmmm? Judge Isaac C. Parker lives! Why not just try him now, and when he comes back you hang him at the airport. Will we do that to everyone who commits Treason, or just Snowden? s/ I’m sure we can come up with a list of individuals who we’d like to hang for treason, ask any Viet Nam Vet. and I’m sure Snowden won’t be the first name they come up with.


4 posted on 12/22/2013 10:10:49 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods? Glenn Doherty ? Forgot already?)
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To: WilliamIII

If the American People are the enemies of The United States, then Snowden is a traitor.


5 posted on 12/22/2013 10:12:11 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: WilliamIII

so he wants snowden hanged for exposing that the goverment is committing treason. He should look in a mirror to see a traitor that should be hanged


6 posted on 12/22/2013 10:12:22 PM PST by The Right wing Infidel
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To: WilliamIII

Honesty is the best policy which the US government doesn’t understand for the past 100 years.


7 posted on 12/22/2013 10:13:12 PM PST by plainshame
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To: WilliamIII

If you can’t trust a disgruntled ex-spook, who can you trust?


8 posted on 12/22/2013 10:15:32 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: WilliamIII

No, Snowden revealed operational techniques and classified/confidential sources, meetings, etc.

While some of the NSA programs are out of wack, and need to be curtailed, reformed or abolished, others are lifesaving and need to be kept. However, secrecy is the most important part of intelligence operations and Snowden destroyed that advantage we had.

Nobody gives a damn about your phone conversations. I had to tell hardcore communists that 40 years ago. They were paranoid beyond belief. Small fry are usually not important in subversive operations unless you track them to the big boys (been there, done that).

The damage that Snowden has done to America’s security will cost us lives in the future. Our enemies never sleep and they are always looking for chinks in our armor through which to attack us. If 9/11 taught us nothing else, it is that they were watching, for years, found the chink, and killed 3,000 people, brought down 7 major buildings, 4 planes, and damaged the Pentagon only because they couldn’t see the White House or the Capital.

That plane literally passed within less that a mile of my house and the explosion of it hitting the Pentagon shook it.

If they are reading this or listening to my phone, fine. They can also pay for the pizza I ordered a while ago. That is the least they can do to keep me happen.


9 posted on 12/22/2013 10:17:20 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: WilliamIII

The US government think they are all little angels but they make the mafia look like choir boys!


10 posted on 12/22/2013 10:17:46 PM PST by plainshame
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To: WilliamIII

I’ll take my liberty over security.


11 posted on 12/22/2013 10:20:19 PM PST by plainshame
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To: Bringbackthedraft

I was reading on Citizen Wells that a bill is being pondered about removing the death penalty for treason. Congress putting in a loophole “just in case”?


12 posted on 12/22/2013 10:20:25 PM PST by kiltie65
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To: WilliamIII
Woolsey is a lunatic who hasn't been right about anything in his entire "career"

Still batting a .1000

13 posted on 12/22/2013 10:21:20 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Treason?

John Fn Kerry?

Hanoy Jane?

BHO, Jr (aka Barry Serotoro, or whatever he goes by now)


14 posted on 12/22/2013 10:21:23 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: WilliamIII

Trust the gubmint? Not a chance.


15 posted on 12/22/2013 10:21:56 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

What has been the price of Obozo’s Treason?

In lives, property & money?


16 posted on 12/22/2013 10:22:56 PM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

But, unfortunately, your sound reasoning will not get past the filter created by the tinfoil hats so many people wear. Snowden didn’t just tell Americans that the NSA was listening to phones, emails etc, he told America’s enemies how its done.


17 posted on 12/22/2013 10:24:03 PM PST by AnAmericanInEngland
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To: AnAmericanInEngland

how so?


18 posted on 12/22/2013 10:26:06 PM PST by The Right wing Infidel
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To: WilliamIII

Shouldn’t the same sentence be enacted for known traitors like John Kerry?


19 posted on 12/22/2013 10:30:01 PM PST by immadashell (The inmates are running the asylum.)
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To: WilliamIII

Since obamas a liar then what is the us government?The 2nd coming?


20 posted on 12/22/2013 10:31:06 PM PST by plainshame
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Supposedly Snowden knows which of the telecoms allowed their customer phone calls to be illegally bugged and when the bugging was started.

That "intel" is supposed to be classified.

Anyone who believes anything but that ALL of the telecoms caved and allowed ALL of their cusomters' phone calls to be bugged is naive.

Anyone who believes that Poindexter's programs were ever turned off is also naive.

So what intel did Snowden reveal that anyone with commonsense can't figure out from the little bit of info we already know?

21 posted on 12/22/2013 10:31:20 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: immadashell

I understand he served in NAM and threw other folks medals over a fence.

Secretary of State? The hell you say.


22 posted on 12/22/2013 10:33:09 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: WilliamIII

Snowden is letting everyone know which CIA agent said that. A rope has two ends.


23 posted on 12/22/2013 10:33:09 PM PST by healy61
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To: WilliamIII

if snowden hangs for treason, obama should be hanged for treason.


24 posted on 12/22/2013 10:34:31 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: eyedigress

He took a piece of rice in the ass to get the purple.


25 posted on 12/22/2013 10:35:47 PM PST by txhurl
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To: plainshame

mafia can’t claim sovereign immunity.


26 posted on 12/22/2013 10:36:38 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: WilliamIII

there are lots of folks that deserve hangin , but Snowden is not one of them .

Personally , I can hardly wait for that time to come .


27 posted on 12/22/2013 10:37:23 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: P-Marlowe

I’d like to have a vote if Snowden or James Woolsey swings by a rope.


28 posted on 12/22/2013 10:39:23 PM PST by MNDude
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To: WilliamIII
I like Woolsey but this is just a lot of hot air from him. The NSA has no right to spy on all Americans the way they do. Snowden did us all a favor. The idiots at NSA have only themselves to blame for---
  1. Ed Snowden getting such access to their "jewels"
  2. For Snowden spilling all kinds of NSA secrets to China and Russia which is terrible. But blame the NSA bureaucratic empire builders for this collateral damage. What a surprise that they exercised such loose control over contractors (like Booze-Hamilton which employed Snowden)
  3. NSA contractors have made out like bandits in the expansion out to Utah for data storage and expansion at Fort Meade. 95% of the reason for NSA's gross expansion (mission creep) into domestic spying on all Americans is just to enrich the connected contractors who are all good buddies with the little Napoleons who have run the NSA for years.
  4. These same little Napoleon moron bureaucrats will get their mega-payoffs when they take the revolving door or FedGov retirement then go working for the NSA contractors
  5. Same as with all DC sleaze...follow the money
  6. NSA is just another Washington DC money pit, one of many DC money pits and is why the greater DC region is the wealthiest in the nation.

29 posted on 12/22/2013 10:39:29 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: txhurl

They have no clue. I will purple both his eye sockets right now.

Come get me.


30 posted on 12/22/2013 10:41:42 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: eyedigress

I mean literally. His boat took some fire, and they had rice bags on the boat, and a piece of rice got ricocheted into his butt.

That’s how he got his purple medal he threw over the WH fence.


31 posted on 12/22/2013 10:43:59 PM PST by txhurl
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To: dennisw
We all knew that the Russians and Chinese were going to get the "crown jewels".

Before 911 intelligence was much more compartmentalized. After 911 we were told that we could have stopped it if we had "connected the dots" through a central data warehouse.

Well we got our wish. Now our enemies have one-stop shopping for all of our secrets.

And with the lax security that allowed Snowden deep access who is to say that the NSA didn't also let in a deep cover Chinese and/or Russian and/or jihadi spy?

Maybe this whole Snowden thing is a cover for the NSA realizing they had inadvertently given access to all of one or more of our enemies and wanted to pin the blame on some low level figure rather than pointing their fingers at themselves.

32 posted on 12/22/2013 10:46:32 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: txhurl

Enough.


33 posted on 12/22/2013 10:46:59 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Ed Snowden is an NSA creation. With such lax security this was bound to happen. The NSA honchos are idiots who only have themselves to blame. They should be up on treason charges for Russia and China getting our NSA secrets.

If it was so easy for Ed Snowden to acquire all this NSA intel then prolly others have been doing it for years. But keeping their mouths shut and getting paid off by Russia and China for the intel. How many foreign nationals (like born in China or Taiwan or Russia) are working at the NSA or for NSA contractors? There’s your answer. We don’t want to discriminate do we? Political correctness is deadly to a nation.

(sorry but Taiwanese can be turned to work for China)


34 posted on 12/22/2013 10:48:44 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

You get it!!! Please read my post #34


35 posted on 12/22/2013 10:50:30 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
Yes, and very few people in the US knew how to read or speak Arabic right after 911, so the NSA, CIA, etc. were desperate to find anyone with these language skills.

"Oh you're a refugee from Iraq and claim to be a victim of al Qaeda and can read and speak Arabic? Well then here's your high level security access to the NSA. Welcome to the team!"

36 posted on 12/22/2013 10:54:38 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: dennisw

Dennis, you are correct on who is responsible. The NSA is responsible. Heads should roll on this breach.

\Snowden on the other hand understands what was given and sold out his Nation. Hiding in Communist Russia or Marxist Brazil is not acceptable.

He is a traitor first and foremost.


37 posted on 12/22/2013 10:55:28 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: eyedigress
Ed Snowden is a coin with two sides. You have him spilling NSA secrets to China and Russia... The flip side is he revealed NSA domestic spying on a scale no one imagined. If not for Snowden you would not see so many demands for the NSA to cut back on domestic spying AKA meta-data collation and storage. Plus storage of emails, phones calls etc out in Utah. Why do you think the Utah facility is so large? To store a lot more than meta-data.

So what value to place on Snowden revealing the scope of NSA domestic spying?

38 posted on 12/22/2013 11:03:51 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: WilliamIII
James, What would suggest for Bill Clinton for slipping the Chicoms many secrets for bags of campaign cash? How about obozo for systematically trashing this country from WITHIN??
39 posted on 12/22/2013 11:08:58 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: eyedigress

“Hiding in Communist Russia or Marxist Brazil”

Huh? Russia is far more of a capitalist country than we are now so this statement is just silly.

As far as heads rolling, get serious. Heads never roll for those in charge. Things will continue as before, sure they may come out with some window dressing but that’s about it.


40 posted on 12/22/2013 11:09:52 PM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: null and void

Good question. I think we all know the answer.


41 posted on 12/22/2013 11:13:11 PM PST by rawhide
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To: WilliamIII

Bookmark


42 posted on 12/22/2013 11:14:47 PM PST by GOP Poet
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Always important to remind Freepers that NSA was just cross linking phone numbers and email addresses.

It did not have recorded conversations or the text of emails, although the FBI could obtain warrants and subpoenas based on NSA data.

Most people only have three major “privacy” issues in their lives.

Money, health, and romance (real and imagined).

I don't care who knows about those things in my life.

Money - I'm lower middle class, mainly because I was a day trader and went bust in penny stocks after the 9-11 catastrophe.

Health - Lifelong runner with Atrial Fib, thinning hair, and 4 skin cancers after growing up in south Florida.

Romance - At age 63, more imaginary than real.

I also don't care who knows where I am, so I don't care about surveillance cameras, either.

I care a little bit about my political privacy, since I'm a Conservative, and I don't want harassing emails, phone calls, or letters.

But, bottom line, if you are a law abiding citizen, almost no one in the world cares about what you do or what you think.

43 posted on 12/22/2013 11:16:34 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: trapped_in_LA

You consider Russia a “Capitalist” Nation even after Putin has disbanded the media?


44 posted on 12/22/2013 11:18:46 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: WilliamIII

what info has Snowden revealed...

that was not already widely suspected.?


45 posted on 12/22/2013 11:19:35 PM PST by RockyTx
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To: eyedigress; immadashell
I understand he served in NAM and threw other folks medals over a fence.

Secretary of State? The hell you say.


46 posted on 12/22/2013 11:22:06 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: WilliamIII
There are historic parallels with Snowden’s story. One major parallel is that involving Benedict Arnold.

Arnold was Washington’s finest battle commander, but he was very-much disliked by lousy generals and politicians. Arnold was therefor financially screwed by Congress in that they wouldn’t cover his personal financial battle expenses; his records went down with his ship in his victorious battle at Valcour Bay... and (like Sarah Palin today) Arnold wasn’t liked by "professional" politicians. If it were not for Arnold’s actions during the Revolutionary war, America would have very-very likely lost that war.

George Washington was Arnold’s protection; but Washington couldn’t hold Congress off Arnold’s case ... so Arnold was broke and he left town ... after he’d won the war for America.

47 posted on 12/22/2013 11:24:34 PM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: The Right wing Infidel

Not only look in the mirror-—but look in the White House and Congress.


48 posted on 12/22/2013 11:29:18 PM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: zeestephen

to post 43

zee, tell your story to someone
involved in a divorce dispute,
and ask what they think.


49 posted on 12/22/2013 11:30:40 PM PST by RockyTx
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To: OldNavyVet

Arnold’s history is a rough one. He did turncoat at a point by giving up knowledge of our War College but I would never compare Snowden to that.

Snowden shall be used like a pawn. We are getting to a point that ALL communication is known. As Americans we will feel the effect.


50 posted on 12/22/2013 11:31:08 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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