Skip to comments.Obamacare Debacle Tightens Key Senate Races (RATS still own it)
Posted on 12/23/2013 3:27:01 AM PST by Libloather
In Kalamazoo, in GOP-heavy western Michigan, perceptions of the health care law and its impact on the Senate race depend on who you ask.
"These issues can be fixed," said Lucy Bland, director of a food co-op kitchen.
"It going to set us all back for a long time," countered Kevin McLeod, with the area Chamber of Commerce.
Democratic National Committee leaders say publicly they welcome election-year attacks on the health care law, and plan to respond by pointing to the October shutdown. By next fall, they contend, the contour of the Michigan and Colorado Senate races will look more like 2012.
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Prepare for even more lies...
They are whistling past the graveyard and they know it.
If the GOP elites are successful in fielding candidates cut from the mold of McCain, Boehner, McConnell, Graham, Collins, Cantor, Hatch, and Ryan don’t expect the Republicans to capture the Senate. Given a choice between lying communists and backstabbing lying corporatist socialist conservatives will once again be faced with the “least bad” choice. This time, many will stay home thereby voting no to both parties.
“This time, many will stay home thereby voting no to both parties.”
No you won’t, you will be voting yes to the Democratic party.
You’re barking up the wrong tree. A Democrat with an R after their name is still a Democrat, just like Willard (Zero’s ringer) and we’re done rubber-stamping the corrupt bipartisan big gubmint cabal.
We want a second party, a Conservative Party.
Even liberal moonbat writers in Michigan now admit there is a good chance they could lose that Senate seat. Their internal polling must show terrible numbers for them to admit that.
For instance, Obamacare has never garnered 51% in any poll, ever. It is destroying health care, the health care insurance industry, and the administration's buddies in crime, Scotus says the government can constitutionally force us to purchase anything it wants. If the pubbies refuse to repeal, defund, or throw sand in the gears of horrible, hated law, can we reasonably expect the GOP to someday restore our freedoms?
The thinking side of my brain wonders why I continue to participate in the farce. Tyrants like Chavez and Obama love elections, because elections legitimize their crimes. Why give my imprimatur, my approval to the mirage of republican government?
Bottom line, voting conservative is necessary, but not sufficient if ones goal is the restoration of our freedoms.
The Dems are running a leftist White Detroit-area Congressman against a female former two-time statewide GOP officeholder. Land would have to botch it badly in order to lose.
-— were done rubber-stamping the corrupt bipartisan big gubmint cabal. -—
Yes. The war is finally out in the open. It’s time for us to win it.
And he voted for and was a cheerleader for owebamacare.
“No you wont, you will be voting yes to the Democratic party.”
If I vote continue voting yes to the RINO’s, because that is my only other choice, will there really be any difference? Since 2010 the Republican Party has controlled the House of Representatives and the purse strings of the government.
Has the federal debt been reduced? No, it is still growing.
Has any of President Obama’s discretionary spending authority been reduced? No
Has Obamacare been defunded or repealed? No
Has the President been impeached for unilaterally changing laws or not enforcing laws? No
Is the government spending still out of control? Yes
Have new taxes been passed since 2010? Yes
Does Congress continue to pass laws giving wide discretion to the President and the regulatory agencies? Yes
Is the Republican leadership positioning to pass an immigration reform bill which includes amnesty in 2014? Yes
Has the Republican House used its power of the purse to stop any major initiative of the Obama administration? No
Is the leadership of the Republican Party overtly trying to destroy the Tea Party and diminish the conservative wing of the party? Yes
If John Boehner chooses not to run for Speaker again, is there any true conservative who has a chance to become Speaker or is the replacement almost certain to come from the same RINO establishment?
If the Republicans win control of the Senate, will the Republican establishment focus more on getting along with the Democrats in the Senate or furthering the conservative agenda Ted Cruz and Mike Lee?
Given the above, does it really make a difference if I vote Republican or stay at home?
So true on your statement. If people stay home, the Dems will win.
OBAMA""No. 1, let me just repeat, if youve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All Im going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. Youll still have choice of doctor.
Repeated over and over ---- with the promise that every American would be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.
DEMOCRATS CHIME IN:
SEN. HARRY REID (D-Nev.): In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it. (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09)
SEN. RICHARD DURBIN: We believe and we stand by this if you like your current health insurance plan, you will be able to keep it, plain and simple, straightforward. (Sen. Durbin, Congressional Record, S.6401, 6/10/09)
SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY): If you like your insurance, you keep it. (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/29/09)
SEN. PATTY MURRAY (D-Wash.): Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it. (Sen. Murray, Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09)
SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-Mont.): That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it. (Sen. Baucus, Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10)
SEN. TOM HARKIN (D-Iowa): One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it; thus, the term grandfathered plans. If you have a plan you like existing policies you can keep them. we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in. (Sen. Harkin, Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10)
THEN-REP. TAMMY BALDWIN (D-Wis.): Under the bill, if you like the insurance you have now, you may keep it and it will improve. (Rep. Baldwin, Press Release, 3/18/10)
SEN. MARK BEGICH (D-Alaska): If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that. If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want of ideas, make sure you keep it. That you can keep who you want. (Sen. Begich, Townhall Event, 7/27/09)
SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-Colo.): We should begin with a basic principle: if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them as well. We will not take that choice away from you. (Sen. Bennet, Press Release, 6/11/09)
SEN. BARBARA BOXER (D-Calif.): So we Democrats want people to be able to keep the health care they have. And the answer to that is choice of plans. And in the exchange, were going to have lots of different plans, and people will be able to keep the health care coverage they need and they want. (Sen. Boxer, Press Release, 2/8/11)
SEN. SHERROD BROWN (D-Ohio): Our Democrat bill says if you have health insurance and you like it, you can keep it (Sen. Brown, Congressional Record, S.12612, 12/7/09)
SEN. BEN CARDIN (D-Md.): For the people of Maryland, this bill will provide a rational way in which they can maintain their existing coverage (Sen. Cardin, Congressional Record, S.13798, 12/23/09)
SEN. BOB CASEY (D-Pa.): I also believe this Democrat legislation and the bill we are going to send to President Obama this fall will also have secure choices. If you like what you have, you like the plan you have, you can keep it. It is not going to change. (Sen. Casey, Congressional Record, S.8070, 7/24/09)
SEN. KAY HAGAN (D-N.C.): People who have insurance theyre happy with can keep it We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance theyre happy with can keep it while also providing a backstop option for people without access to affordable coverage. (Republicans Vent As Other Compromise Plans Get Aired, National Journals Congress Daily, 6/18/09)
SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-La.): If you like the insurance that you have, youll be able to keep it. (MSNBCs Hardball, 12/16/09)
SEN. PAT LEAHY (D-Vt.): [I]f you like the insurance you now have, keep the insurance you have. (CNNs Newsroom, 10/22/09)
SEN. BOB MENENDEZ (D-N.J.): If you like what you have, you get to keep it Menendez is a member of the Senate Finance Committee, which is expected to release a bill later this week. He stressed that consumers who are satisfied with their plans wont have to change. If you like what you have, you get to keep it, he said. (Health Care Plan Would Help N.J., Menendez Says, The Record, 6/19/09)
SEN. JEFF MERKLEY (D-Oreg.): [E]nsuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it The HELP Committee bill sets forward a historic Democrat plan that will, for the first time in American history, give every American access to affordable health coverage, reduce costs, and increase choice, while ensuring that those who like their insurance get to keep it. (Sen. Merkley, Press Release, 7/15/09)
SEN. BARBARA MIKULSKI (D-Md.): It means that if you like the insurance you have now, you can keep it. (Sen. Mikulski, Press Release, 12/24/09)
SEN. JAY ROCKEFELLER (D-W.Va.): I want people to know, the Presidents promise that if you like the coverage you have today you can keep it is a pledge we intend to keep. (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Hearing, 9/23/09)
SEN. JACK REED (D-R.I.): If you like the insurance you have, you can choose to keep it. (Sen. Reed, Town Hall Event, 6/25/09)
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (I-Vt.): If you have coverage you like, you can keep it, says Sen. Sanders. (Sick And Wrong, Rolling Stone, 4/5/10)
SEN. JEANNE SHAHEEN (D-N.H.): if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it My understanding is that if you have health coverage that you like you can keep it. As I said, you may have missed my remarks at the beginning of the call, but one of the things I that I said as a requirement that I have for supporting a Democrat bill is that if you have health coverage that you like you should be able to keep that. under every scenario that Ive seen, if you have health coverage that you like, you get to keep it. (Sen. Shaheen, Health Care Questions From Across New Hampshire, Accessed 11/13/13)
SEN. DEBBIE STABENOW (D-Mich.): As someone who has a large number of large employers in my state, one of the things I appreciate about the Democrat chairmans remark is is the grandfathering provisions, the fact that the people in my state, 60 percent of whom have insurance, are going to be able to keep it. And Mr. Chairman, I appreciate that. Thats a strong commitment. Its clear in the bill I appreciate the strong commitment on your part and the president to make sure that if you have your insurance you can keep it. Thats the bottom line for me. (U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09)
SEN. JON TESTER (D-Mont.): If you like your coverage, youll be able to keep it, Tester said, adding that if Medicare changes, it will only become stronger. (Tester In Baker To Discuss Health Care, The Fallon County Times, 11/20/09)
SEN. TOM UDALL (D-N.Mex.): Some worried reform would alter their current coverage. It wont. If you like your current plan, you can keep it. (What I Learned: About Health Care Reform This Summer, By Your Lawmakers In Congress, Albuquerque Journal, 9/8/09)
SEN. SHELDON WHITEHOUSE (D-R.I.): ..it honors President Obamas programs and the promise of all of the Presidential candidates that if you like the plan you have, you get to keep it. You are not forced out of anything. (Sen. Whitehouse, Congressional Record, S.8668, 8/3/09)
TALKING POINTS / BY FREEPER SICKOFLIBS: Democrats took AWAY our health care. They took away our doctors. They made healthcare prohibitively expensive.
Repubs tried to stop them....all voted against the ACA. There were numerous Republican bills---three years ago one bill aimed to help Americans keep their plans.
Dems voted down all Republican fixits.
Nancy Pelosi egged on Democrats---saying Americans could not wait any longer for Obama's "perfect" health care.
Democrats steamrolled over Americans---they had nothing to stop them: super-majority voting power, Obama buying their aye votes, and Nancy Pelosi irresponsibly evading Congressional mandates---pressuring Democrats not to read ACA before voting.
“Given the above, does it really make a difference if I vote Republican or stay at home?”
How do you like living under Obamacare? Do you think anything like it would have been passed under a Pub Prez? How do you like living under Executive fiat via Rules and Regulations by satellite departments such as the EPA, Interior Dept., Justice Dept., etc. Or the President ruling by Executive Orders? Or how about Common Core being imposed upon our nation’s schools through the Education Dept. And collections of large fines by blackmail of our nation’s banks and businesses?
How about foreign policy of kissing up to Iran and allowing them to go nuclear, or betraying Israel at every turn, or supporting the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt? You like that? Then just make sure you don’t vote Pub in order to get some more of the same.
“Bottom line, voting conservative is necessary, but not sufficient if ones goal is the restoration of our freedoms.”
It is necessary if you don’t want 4-8 years of Hillary Clinton or some Dem that is even worse.
Dang, we need a similar quote from Al Franken. He was the 60th vote, and that will be used against him, but that fact is too easily refuted so we need the sound bite.
YOUTUBE SOUND BITE Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) on Obamacare: “people who are happy with their current plan, wouldn’t need to change it.”
Thank you ma’am!!
Our history shows that mere voting is the near equivalent of good men doing nothing.
Obamacare — I do not believe a President Romney would have lifted a finger to repeal it. I might also add the Republican candidate for President in 2008 (Mr. McCain) actively opposed the attempts by Ted Cruz and Mike Lee to defund Obamacare. Don’t forget George W. Bush was responsible for a major expansion of Medicare (prescription drug benefit).
Executive fiat - The Republican House can impeach the President at any time. The fact they do not take any action to protect the Constitution and try to stop the Executive orders indicates they are complicit with his actions.
I might remind you that George W. Bush frequently used “signing statements”, challenging various parts of laws he signed. Bush also pushed TARP through Congress, allowed former Goldman Sachs Chairman Henry Paulson to use government money illegally to prop up the banks during the 2008 financial crisis, plus he was the architect of the Patriot Act which has led to significant spying on American citizens in violation of the Constitution. With respect to Education, Bush dramatically increased spending and was responsible for “No Child Left Behind” a major intrusion by the federal government in setting standards for local schools and setting the stage for Common Core. I also remember Republican President Nixon was responsible for both the EPA and OSHA.
With respect to foreign policy I’d like to see us stop interfering in the affairs of other nations entirely and bring the troops home. Unfortunately both parties have pursued imperialistic foreign policies. I’ll grant you Obama’s Middle East policy is a disaster. So was the Bush invasion of Iraq. Bush got bitch slapped by China early in his first term when they shot down the spy plane and wouldn’t return it. After that Bush did zero to fight Chinese currency manipulation, mercantilist trade policies, active hacking of public and private computer system, not to mention the theft of military secrets and private intellectual property.
Any Pub is better than any Dem at any time.
Bookmark for your post #13.
Exactly. And in Colorado, that loser with loads of baggage from 2010, Ken Buck, will prolly be the GOP candidate and once again we will pull defeat from the jaws of Victory. Just damn!
Dont forget to add: Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) the 60th vote on Obamacare: “people who are happy with their current plan, wouldn’t need to change it.”