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Israel to Abbas: No, Jesus was not a Palestinian
Times of Israel ^ | December 23, 2013, 7:07 pm | Raphael Ahren

Posted on 12/23/2013 10:12:25 AM PST by Olog-hai

Israeli officials reacted with bitter scorn to a Christmas message from Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas in which he called Jesus a Palestinian and suggested Israel was to blame for the exodus of Christians from the Holy Land.

“He should have read the Gospel before uttering such offensive nonsense, but we will forgive him because he doesn’t know what he’s doing,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor told The Times of Israel on Monday. Abbas’s statement is an “outrageous rewriting of Christian history,” according to Palmor.

Earlier on Monday, Abbas published a lengthy Christmas greeting, calling Jesus “a Palestinian messenger who would become a guiding light for millions around the world.” Although he expressed his commitment to the peace negotiations with Israel, he expressed harsh criticism of Israeli policies, including an accusation that Jerusalem is responsible for the plight of Christians in the Holy Land. …

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abbas; godsgravesglyphs; israel; jesus; letshavejerusalem; palestinians; rop; waronterror
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Uh . . . what? Who was it that the Crusades were fought against, again?
1 posted on 12/23/2013 10:12:25 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Jesus a palestinian? I must have missed the part
where he donkey bombed the Temple.


2 posted on 12/23/2013 10:14:41 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Olog-hai

Jesus was a Jew.

Tribe of David on His mother’s side, and tribe of David on His adopted Dad’s side.


3 posted on 12/23/2013 10:14:52 AM PST by Westbrook ()Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Olog-hai

Muslim Palestinians and Jewish Hebrews arguing over who can ethnically claim Jesus Christ. You’ve gotta laugh.

Although Abbas needs to read up on his history. Jesus was Hebrew.


4 posted on 12/23/2013 10:15:56 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: Westbrook

Well, the tribe’s name is Judah, but yes, both Mary and Joseph were of the line of David.


5 posted on 12/23/2013 10:16:27 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: All

Jesus was not of this earth. Period.


6 posted on 12/23/2013 10:20:44 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Olog-hai
*Jesus “a Palestinian messenger”*

Brought to you by the same people who tell you the lie that Jesus is a Socialist (He never said the the government is the highest authority and they should forcibly steal from those that earn at the point of a gun and redistribute their earnings).

Same people who bring you the lie of evolution, global warming and other non-Science to promote Satan's agenda.

7 posted on 12/23/2013 10:23:51 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: Olog-hai

Especially since there is no such thing as a Palestinian, and there never was.


8 posted on 12/23/2013 10:25:02 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: Olog-hai

More cultural (in this case religious) appropriation.


9 posted on 12/23/2013 10:25:50 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Well, that”s not true, according to God’s word, the Bible. He was born, a very real human being, on this earth. At the same time, he is also the Son of God, having been here before anything was created.


10 posted on 12/23/2013 10:30:26 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Olog-hai

Next, they’ll be telling us that Cleopatra was African-American.


11 posted on 12/23/2013 10:31:35 AM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Daveinyork
Good afternoon. I hope you are doing well.

Especially since there is no such thing as a Palestinian, and there never was.

Didn't the Romans coin that moniker in 20 BC? They were the conquerors, so they could name it anything they wanted to. So, anyone born there after them naming the area, Palestine is a "Palestinian," right?

Your thoughts...?

5.56mm

12 posted on 12/23/2013 10:32:36 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Olog-hai

Ah!.. Jesus was a Jew.. and everybody knows in Isreal
were Jews and Romans..... ZERO palestinians.. NO muslims..

actually Mohammad didnt even exist until abut 600A.D...
Sooo there could NOT have been any muslims..

Where THEN did the so-called palestinains COME FROM?..
Obvously.... the surrounding areas.. there were and aren’t any Palestinians..


13 posted on 12/23/2013 10:35:11 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: VerySadAmerican

...but He was (is) still a Jew.


14 posted on 12/23/2013 10:35:11 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Olog-hai

> Well, the tribe’s name is Judah

Duh, sorry.

Yes you are 100% correct, which means that Jesus was the quintessential Jew, because the word “Jew” comes from the tribe of Juda.


15 posted on 12/23/2013 10:37:38 AM PST by Westbrook ()Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Olog-hai

Thank-you Israel!


16 posted on 12/23/2013 10:39:53 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Olog-hai

Um.........Mr. Abbas, you forget that Jesus’s mother Mary was Jewish so Jesus was BTW, JEWISH.


17 posted on 12/23/2013 10:41:33 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Olog-hai

Jesus was a Jew - and white.


18 posted on 12/23/2013 10:42:46 AM PST by JudyinCanada
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To: JudyinCanada

Haven been to Israel recently, he was probably more swarthy than you think.

White, but certainly not remotely northern European.


19 posted on 12/23/2013 10:49:02 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: hosepipe

Logic won’t stop those that believe what the Koran says; that book even claimed that Abraham was a Muslim, after all.


20 posted on 12/23/2013 10:53:23 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: TheThirdRuffian

Based on what? The descendants of Ham are Biblically recorded as the “swarthy” people. The Messiah was a Semite (of Shem) in all his generations.


21 posted on 12/23/2013 10:55:45 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Who knew Abbas was a renowned middle east historian...? / S

I wonder if they understand how stupid this makes them look ?


22 posted on 12/23/2013 10:56:36 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Olog-hai

And Palestinians only came into being in 1948 when Jordan no longer wanted them to return.


23 posted on 12/23/2013 10:56:55 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Popman

The Koran justifies anything, in their eyes.


24 posted on 12/23/2013 10:57:22 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: SkyDancer

No. Those Arabs never belonged to Jordan to begin with.


25 posted on 12/23/2013 10:57:58 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: M Kehoe

The Romans coined the moniker after the Bar Kochba revolt in 132-135 CE. It was the second devastating revolt of Jews in Judea, and the last of a series of revolts by Jews in the Empire. The Romans renamed the province Palestine, coined from the name of Israel’s ancient enemy, the Philistines, and it was intended to be an insult. I still consider the use of the term to be an insult to Jews.

Many modern day Arabs who consider themselves to be Palestinians lay claim to the land by claiming descent from the Philistines.


26 posted on 12/23/2013 10:58:45 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: tet68

“I must have missed the part
where he donkey bombed the Temple.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

:)


27 posted on 12/23/2013 11:00:20 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: Daveinyork

Of course, the Philistenes were a sea-faring people, probably from Crete -— and also being idiots who destroyed everything, where we get the insult “cretin.”

So maybe . . . .


28 posted on 12/23/2013 11:00:40 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Daveinyork

Palestinian = Phillistinian\.


29 posted on 12/23/2013 11:00:55 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Jesus's ancestor King David was fair/ruddy...
1 Samuel 17:42
And when the Philistine looked about, and saw David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair countenance.

30 posted on 12/23/2013 11:01:20 AM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: Olog-hai

Swedish Boy scouts.


31 posted on 12/23/2013 11:01:24 AM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: Daveinyork
I still consider the use of the term to be an insult to Jews.

I concur.

5.56mm

32 posted on 12/23/2013 11:01:30 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Olog-hai

Palestinians are the descendants of the Philistines/Canaanites.


33 posted on 12/23/2013 11:02:56 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: Olog-hai

Well, it was a “mixed multitude” that came out of Eqypt, so there was a bit of everyone from the area.

But if you look at the ancient freezes and whatnot you can easily view in Israel today, the Jewish people looked pretty much like they do today, but slightly less European.

It was like arabs with curly hair, as my un-PC wife explained it.


34 posted on 12/23/2013 11:03:53 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: kaehurowing

I think they are just arabs from the surrounding area.

Descendants of Ishmael.

That certainly fits all the genetic studies done.


35 posted on 12/23/2013 11:05:50 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Olog-hai

http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/his_palestine.html.
http://countrystudies.us/jordan/34.htm


36 posted on 12/23/2013 11:07:38 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Yes, you missed where I stated it was a “mixed multitude” that left Eqypt. Plenty of red beards, black beards, light skin, and dark skin, all mixed up.

I was just going by today’s Israeli population and the pictures and freezes you see in Israeli museams/tombs, etc. Arabish with curly hair. White, but closer to Italian than Norweigian.


37 posted on 12/23/2013 11:08:51 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Hoodat
Next they'll be telling us that Cleopatra was an African-American

I just did some quick research on both Cleo and Jesus.

Cleopatra's sister was Macedonian (Ptolemy clan) and probably Numbian (black African). There is uncertainty that the sisters had both parents the same. So, Cleopatra was quite possibly AfroGreek.

Jesus's ethnicity? The opinions are all over the place. One pointed out that "Jew" refers to a religion, not an ethnic group. Many believe that Jesus was Syrian-Philistine and "Philistine" became "Palistinian". Others say he was born in Bethlehem, which makes his ethnicity the ancestors of Palestinians. Others have plenty of research from the Bible and history saying his mother and adopted father came from Jewish tribes. A few Muslims chime in and say they have common heritage with Jesus.

I prefer to believe that all mankind can lay claim to Jesus in some way, thus he is the savior of us all.

38 posted on 12/23/2013 11:09:05 AM PST by grania
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To: SkyDancer
They’re not the same people, and those links verify that to a degree. Even Zuheir Mohsen, the infamous “Palestinian people do not exist” PLO guy, knew this.
39 posted on 12/23/2013 11:12:39 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: grania

“Jew” refers to an ethnic group (the tribe of Judah, the fourth son of Jacob; and later the kingdom of Judah, which included the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and Levi, called “Judaea” by the Romans). “Judaism” refers to a religion. Muslims are not an ethnic group, evidently, but Arabs claim descent from Ishmael (Isaac’s half-Egyptian half-brother) in particular.

There is no such thing as an ethnic “Palestinian”; they are Arabs, hence descendants of Ishmael. Jesus’ mother (hence Jesus Himself) was descended from Isaac.


40 posted on 12/23/2013 11:16:52 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Jesus a so-called 'palestinian!?" ha ha HA! that's tantamount to saying that Jesus didn't even exist. And this from a man whose gang suppresses and tries to kill Christians at every opportunity.... (Abbas murdering liar, go straight to Hell with all your miserable Islamonazi scum together!)
41 posted on 12/23/2013 11:23:27 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: faithhopecharity

Well, the Koran speaks against anyone who calls Jesus the son of God, even claiming that Jesus is going to appear on the last day and deny that he’s the son of God in several versus. The Koran denies Jesus’ crucifixion (claiming that it was an illusion or hologram or something to make it look like he was crucified), instead saying that he was caught up alive to “Allah” in heaven. As long as they believe that, they will come up with all sorts of stuff to justify the Koranic viewpoint.


42 posted on 12/23/2013 11:26:47 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; grania

Now Jesus as the creator of all mankind means that all mankind can trace themselves back to Him. The notion of being Savior has to do with His shed blood paying for the sins of all mankind. But as for the various generations of mankind, prophecy does say that He would be born of the house of David, of the tribe of Judah, and of no other family.


43 posted on 12/23/2013 11:29:08 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Daveinyork

Fifth century BCE. Herodotus.


44 posted on 12/23/2013 11:33:12 AM PST by stormer
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To: kaehurowing
One story has it that ancient Egyptians became Phoneticians then Philistines which were totally wiped out by David I think. One of the Caesars of Rome after conquering the area named the whole middle east Philistia. This I think happened after the destruction of the temple by Titus in 69AD. Jesus would have been an Israeli would haven't he?
45 posted on 12/23/2013 11:33:27 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Viennacon

And the Israeli says, “should have read the Gospel”. Uh...you mean the Good News of the saving grace of Jesus Christ? I pray he will follow his own advice.


46 posted on 12/23/2013 11:33:34 AM PST by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: Olog-hai

You’re killed for switching to worship Him, but He was one of us.

This is how they get all the stupid people on their side.


47 posted on 12/23/2013 11:33:54 AM PST by firebrand
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Sorry bout dat.

As an aside, one of my favorite girlfriends from college was a beautiful Jewish girl with bright red hair and bountiful freckles.

Her entire family was red-headed.

48 posted on 12/23/2013 11:34:45 AM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: Olog-hai

” So, Cleopatra was quite possibly AfroGreek.”

The Macedonians in Alexandria were notoriously inbred; they wouldn’t even marry Greeks. They were the ruling social strata and wouldn’t compromise their status. It wasn’t until Julius Caesar pressured them that Macedonians started to mix with Greeks.
Cleo, of the royal line, would have been pure Macedonian.

“Jesus’s ethnicity? The opinions are all over the place.”

His ancestors are all Jews, as listed in his genealogy, which is available.

“Others say he was born in Bethlehem, which makes his ethnicity the ancestors of Palestinians.”

Bethlehem was the city of David, king of the Jews (whose title Jesus also inherited as his descendant). If he was a Bethlehemite, then he was a Jew.


49 posted on 12/23/2013 11:36:09 AM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: M Kehoe; Daveinyork

Prior to 1948, the Jews and Arabs of the land were called PALESTINIANS ... all of them. They were either Palestinian Arabs or they were Palestinian Jews.

After 1948, the term was abandoned for the Jews and they were simply Israelis. The named remained for the “Palestinian Arabs” though, while the Arab part was dropped — because it became redundant without the term “Palestinian Jew”.

AND THUS ... today we have what remains of that original terminology from history — PALESTINIANS.

ALSO ... please note that the STATE OF ISRAEL officially recognizes these people as “Palestinians”. This is stated in official documents and treaties with Israel. And, when you listen to even the Prime Minister of Israel (Benjamin Netanyahu), he refers to them — ALL THE TIME — as Palestinians.

I think if the State of Israel and the Prime Minister of Israel has no problem in referring to them OFFICIALLY that way, then we shouldn’t either.

The truth of the history remains the same no matter the name you use.

OH ... and one more thing the Jerusalem Post was ORIGINALLY called the “Palestinian Post”. The news of the new state of Israel was printed up in the Palestinian Post.


50 posted on 12/23/2013 11:37:07 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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