Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Wind farm operator says eagle deaths overestimated
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | December 24, 2013 | AP

Posted on 12/24/2013 12:12:18 PM PST by CedarDave

CHEYENNE, Wyo. – The developers of what could become the nation’s largest wind energy project say the U.S. Bureau of Land Management has overestimated how many eagles could be killed by wind turbines at the site.

They say they’re planning a variety of measures to reduce eagle deaths at the $5 billion Chokecherry/Sierra Madre wind power project south of Rawlins, and those steps will result in fewer deaths than the BLM estimate of 46-64 per year.

(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; US: Wyoming
KEYWORDS: baldeagles; carbon; co2; eagles; energy; wind; windfarms
The article states the Power Company of Wyoming plans to install 1,000 turbines on northern foothills of the Sierra Madre Mountains. These would generate enough electricity to power one-million homes.

Where oh where are the bird lovers, the environmentalists, the Sierra Club, PETA and other conservation groups? Oh, applauding Obama's EPA for shutting down coal-powered generating stations which provide for inexpensive reliable power to many millions with much less impact on the environment.

1 posted on 12/24/2013 12:12:18 PM PST by CedarDave
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: CedarDave

No mention of eagles ANYWHERE on the PETA website.


2 posted on 12/24/2013 12:18:51 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CedarDave
PETA will only be out there to watch eagles die...They get off killing pets.


3 posted on 12/24/2013 12:22:14 PM PST by darkwing104 (Forgive but don't forget)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CedarDave
But private citizens can't build homes on their own property if they find one tadpole in a mud puddle somewhere.
4 posted on 12/24/2013 12:35:57 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: darkwing104

PETA will only be out there to watch eagles die...They get off killing pets.

People
Euthanising
Tame
Animals


5 posted on 12/24/2013 12:37:51 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: CedarDave

As slowly as those big blades turn, I can’t understand how they kill so many birds.


6 posted on 12/24/2013 12:41:09 PM PST by Baynative (Guns have only two enemies: rust and politicians.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Baynative

Tip speeds are typically 150-200 mph

http://www.aweo.org/windmodels.html


7 posted on 12/24/2013 12:42:37 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: mrsmel

You can go to Federal prison and lose your house for the POSESSION of a single feather of a bald eagle, even if you found it on the ground.


8 posted on 12/24/2013 12:44:56 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: CedarDave
They say they’re planning a variety of measures to reduce eagle deaths...

Warning signs?

9 posted on 12/24/2013 12:51:53 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mrsmel

The quick and dirty solution is just to make sure you napalm your entire property before the environmental inspectors show up. Maybe salt the earth too, just in case.


10 posted on 12/24/2013 12:57:42 PM PST by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: The Antiyuppie

Unless you’re an indian. They get a special exemption, I guess because they were doing it before it was popular.


11 posted on 12/24/2013 1:00:10 PM PST by Boogieman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Baynative
I've wondered about this for a long time. The blades turn very slowly and eagles have incredible eyesight and are very manuverable. Probably BS from the animal rights crowd.
12 posted on 12/24/2013 1:20:23 PM PST by MisterArtery
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: nascarnation; MisterArtery
There are a lot of Bald Eagles that fish the shores and bays around where I live. They are fast and agile and can interpret the direction of a fish swimming even with the refraction of light on water.

I can't grasp how they run into those big lumbering blades. Even if the tip speed is over 150, the blade is still not moving at what seems like a high speed.

13 posted on 12/24/2013 1:31:22 PM PST by Baynative (Guns have only two enemies: rust and politicians.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Baynative

Not sure.
But if you gin up some fake credentials (like some POTUS we know), maybe you can get a couple million grant from the fedgov for a study?


14 posted on 12/24/2013 1:33:03 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: MisterArtery
It's not the blades slicing and dicing birdies, it's the quick and dramatic changes in air pressure.

Of course, greenies are loathe to admit it. Turns out clean energy isn't always so clean.
15 posted on 12/24/2013 1:41:40 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Boogieman

If they stab a baby seal to death with a bald eagle quill, they get a $1,000 refundable tax credit.


16 posted on 12/24/2013 1:44:44 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: nascarnation

I think you’ve got a good idea. There’s big bucks in the grant and non-profit industries these days.


17 posted on 12/24/2013 1:45:31 PM PST by Baynative (Guns have only two enemies: rust and politicians.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: MisterArtery

The revolution per minute on large wind turbines are relatively slow, but the tip speed is moving good and out of the birds path/sight until the last moment. Typically they are at 150~200 mph.

Size specifications of common industrial wind turbines
http://www.aweo.org/windmodels.html


18 posted on 12/24/2013 1:47:26 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: CedarDave
These would generate enough electricity to power one-million homes.

This is one of their biggest lies. The numbers they throw out are for the power if they are producing at 100% capacity, 100% of the time.

Industrial Wind Turbine output averages out to less than 12% of capacity.So,. you're talking about 120,000 homes.

And, if it's anything like the Wind Subsidy Farms they are building in Indiana, thee power that is generated is being sold to markets out east that not only destroyed their own Energy supply , but now demand we cover our state in 500 foot tall monuments to Gaia, because they don't like the electrcicty we sell them that comes from icky coal.

19 posted on 12/24/2013 1:49:01 PM PST by digger48 (I've diven 6)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CedarDave

The beneficiaries of this Billion Dollar boondoggle assure us there’s no harm....

Just what meaningful measures are possible for crying out loud?


20 posted on 12/24/2013 1:59:07 PM PST by G Larry
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CedarDave

They should rename the company the Eagle Power Company of Wyoming:

Powering your homes on the wings of eagles [and condors and hawks and anything else that gets near our blade runners].


21 posted on 12/24/2013 2:17:53 PM PST by Uncle Chip
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Baynative

Power lines don’t move at all, and they kill lots of birds that fly into them.


22 posted on 12/24/2013 2:53:17 PM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: CedarDave

Take away their Production Tax Credit and see how fast these massive hunks of copper wire fall down.


23 posted on 12/24/2013 3:06:29 PM PST by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CedarDave

What happens to little baby Eaglets when their parents don't return to the nest with food?

.

24 posted on 12/24/2013 3:16:04 PM PST by LucyT ( If you're NOT paranoid, you don't know what's going on.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: darkwing104

hussein gets off on eagles or any symbol of America being destroyed.


25 posted on 12/24/2013 3:23:22 PM PST by bgill
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: CedarDave

Good place for windmills...Last time I was ever in Cheyenne Wyoming, there were still phone booths, and the wind was blowing so flipping hard, I could barely open the door back up....


26 posted on 12/24/2013 4:08:37 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Baynative

Turn way faster than you think...!!~!


27 posted on 12/24/2013 4:32:53 PM PST by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: LucyT

If they are like many other birds of prey, one hunts while the other stays at the nest,


28 posted on 12/24/2013 4:42:38 PM PST by Fury
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: CedarDave

Well, for one thing, and I hope no one gets upset - but even though Eagles may fly high, as far as bird-IQ goes, they don’t seem to be close to the top...


29 posted on 12/24/2013 4:47:31 PM PST by djf (Global warming is a bunch of hot air!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: CedarDave

Who is getting the $5 billion and who approved it?


30 posted on 12/24/2013 4:53:20 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: darkwing104

I emailed PETA a couple of weeks ago about this. Their response:

Thank you for contacting PETA. We appreciate the time you took to share this with us, and it has been passed along to the appropriate staff members here.

PETA values feedback and input—from comments, suggestions, and inquiries to cruelty notifications, news stories, and requests for information.

PETA recently released the following media statement on this issue:

The eagles will pay the ultimate price—with their lives—in this latest federal concession to industry and disregard for the wishes of more than 100 conservation and animal-protection groups, including PETA. Some bird species have learned to avoid the turbines, but eagles have not, and perhaps selling them down the river for the sake of corporate profit can be seen as a symbol of things that are not right with our country’s policies on a larger scale.

The following are a few links to information on even more ways to save the animals who so desperately need the help of compassionate people like you:

· Tips for getting active for animals: http://www.PETA.org/action/default.aspx
· Protect animal companions: http://www.PETA.org/issues/companion-animals/default.aspx
· End cruel and unnecessary experiments on animals: http://www.PETA.org/issues/animals-used-for-experimentation/default.aspx
· Fight fur cruelty: http://www.PETA.org/issues/animals-used-for-clothing/animals-used-for-fur.aspx
· Help animals by eating delicious vegan food: http://www.PETA.org/issues/animals-used-for-food/default.aspx
· Save animals’ lives through everyday choices: http://www.PETA.org/living/default.aspx


31 posted on 12/24/2013 4:55:55 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: CedarDave

Everything about windpower is a lie. Sure 1000 homes will have clean power. Eagle deaths are exaggerated. Al Gore buys carbon credits.


32 posted on 12/25/2013 1:06:34 AM PST by Organic Panic
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson