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WATCH: Edward Snowden’s Alternative Christmas Message
Mediaite ^ | December 25th, 2013 | Andrew Kirell

Posted on 12/25/2013 2:46:41 PM PST by Third Person

As we reported on Tuesday, NSA leaker Edward Snowden will deliver Channel 4 UK’s “Alternative Christmas Message,” the network’s annual response to the Queen’s address. They aired on Christmas Day at 4:15 p.m. local time in England.

Snowden’s remarks were filmed by Glenn Greenwald‘s film collaborator Laura Poitras, from an undisclosed location in Russia.

Full remarks transcribed below, followed by the video:

Hi and Merry Christmas. I’m honored to have a chance to speak with you and your family this year.

Recently we learned that our governments, working in concert, have created a system of worldwide system of mass surveillance watching everything we do. Great Britain’s George Orwell warned us of the danger of this kind of information.

The types of collection in the book -– microphones and video cameras, TVs that watch us –- are nothing compared to what we have available today. We have sensors in our pockets that track us everywhere we go. Think about what this means for the privacy of the average person.

A child born today will grow up with no conception of privacy at all. They’ll never know what it means to have a private moment to themselves an unrecorded, unanalyzed thought. And that’s a problem because privacy matters; privacy is what allows us to determine who we are and who we want to be.

The conversation occurring today will determine the amount of trust we can place both in the technology that surrounds us and the government that regulates it. Together we can find a better balance, end mass surveillance, and remind the government that if it really wants to know how we feel, asking is always cheaper than spying.

For everyone out there listening, thank you and Merry Christmas.


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1 posted on 12/25/2013 2:46:41 PM PST by Third Person
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To: Third Person
He knows when you are sleeping,
he knows when you're awake,
he knows if you've been bad or good,
so you'd better be good, or else!
2 posted on 12/25/2013 2:50:34 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Third Person

If this guy hadn’t spoken up, would we ever know we were all being recorded?? Personally, I think it is a long term Dem deep mining plan and when they say “It’s gone”...it won’t really be gone...


3 posted on 12/25/2013 2:58:47 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Are you suggesting we should have already known about it, so it’s OK for government to spy on and monitor law abiding people?

If not, what are you saying?


4 posted on 12/25/2013 3:02:03 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Third Person

I — for one — am glad he exposed this information. It’s by making many people aware of it, that will enable things to get changed.


5 posted on 12/25/2013 3:10:30 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Sacajaweau

“I think it is a long term Dem deep mining plan and when they say “It’s gone”...it won’t really be gone...”
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Yes, comrade. It is the duty of dear leader to know what we are thinking and doing at all times.


6 posted on 12/25/2013 3:18:50 PM PST by AlexW
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To: Star Traveler

Snowden is a traitor.


7 posted on 12/25/2013 4:40:45 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Third Person

Snowden is a traitor to the traitors!


8 posted on 12/25/2013 4:41:28 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Well ... from what I’m seeing of this situation, it would appear that the government is the traitor.


9 posted on 12/25/2013 4:46:35 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

So, what you are saying is that every government employee and every member of the military can examine each job function, each order, and each operation, and if they deem it improper, spill the beans to our enemies? Then they will be excused because they were patriots? And, were it not for Snowden’s treason, and his betrayal of our secrets to our enemies, we would never have known what was going on?


10 posted on 12/25/2013 4:52:49 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

To keep the government operating as it should and in line with our Constitution — every single government worker and/or employee should “spill the beans” whenever and wherever the government steps out of line on any matter. That’s the only way we’ll keep our government “honest”.


11 posted on 12/25/2013 5:02:22 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Third Person

What Snowden “is” is of vital importance to people who can only deal with who is or isn’t and are it seems incapable of dealing with ideas alone. You meet them on this forum they are the ones who tell you what you ARE (or AREN’T), sometimes going to great lengths to amateurishly psychologize, that is if they don’t attack or insult you using the oldest cliches, all because that’s how they measure the world. What Snowden is, is then unimportant, what’t important is what our government is, what it has become, and what ideas it follows. Snowden seems to understand it, but that’s almost beside the point in view of the malfeasance and the intellectual corruption that he’s exposed.


12 posted on 12/25/2013 5:09:53 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Sacajaweau; dragnet2

C’mon folks-—try to keep up. The NSA has been building its capability for over four decades. That dish farm out in the hills of West VA has never been a secret. And they have regularly published articles on their capability. They’ve been in cahoots with the phone companies from the gitgo and they’ve worked with the ISP’s from the start also. The “air waves” have been accessible to anyone with a big ear from the days of Marconi. If you want to remain “private” then keep your land line and mail your chinese electronics back to the guy who convinced you that you needed it. You should be asking who the bleep gave a punk like Snowden access to anything important? It’s possible to run a secure, hi-tech system of any sort, but not if “the company” has a penchant for hiring un-reliable dirt bagz and doesn’t police itself to keep them weeded out. Aaaannnnddd maybe we need an attorney general with the nerve to prosecute his own crooked friends.


13 posted on 12/25/2013 5:11:49 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Revolting cat!

Snowden is a traitor to the traitors!

__________________

POst of the Day.

I am thankful for Snowdon


14 posted on 12/25/2013 5:18:57 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

So, what you are saying is that every government employee and every member of the military can examine each job function, each order, and each operation, and if they deem it improper, spill the beans to our enemies? Then they will be excused because they were patriots? And, were it not for Snowden’s treason, and his betrayal of our secrets to our enemies, we would never have known what was going on?

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Yes.


15 posted on 12/25/2013 5:20:09 PM PST by Chickensoup (we didn't love freedom enough... Solzhenitsyn.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

You have well thought out opinion of Snowden. Kudos to you, even if we don’t agree. Now, what is the source of information about Snowden that you used to form your opinion? The media that “never lie”, by any chance?


16 posted on 12/25/2013 5:23:01 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Third Person

The government wanted Snowden to spill the beans. In fact, sometimes I think he’s still on the payroll. The government is warning us about just how much power they have.

“Don’t think about trying to do something. We’re watching and listening.”


17 posted on 12/25/2013 6:37:41 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Chickensoup

You sound like an anarchist.


18 posted on 12/25/2013 8:12:35 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Revolting cat!

I just read the Wikipaedia writup on Edward Snowden. He truly is an interesting guy, and a brilliant guy.

The article just confirmed my opinion of Snowden. I just do not see why he had to release all the damaging information on the US. All countries have espionage services. What gives him the right to damage the US? Is this the self loathing liberal mindset? He could have resigned his high paying job and opposed the spying by legal legitimate means. Why didn’t he take on the KGB or the Chinese espionage services, since he is so brilliant?

The man is a traitor. What is there about him that is admirable? He is in the same category as John Walker or Jonathan Pollard.


19 posted on 12/25/2013 8:45:19 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

>> I just do not see why he had to release all the damaging information on the US.

Because he’s a tool as are his supporters.

NSA is the weapon. Congress pulls the trigger. Snowden is the gun grabber.

Let me know when the ingenious insider leaks information concerning the betrayal of representation.


20 posted on 12/25/2013 10:05:23 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

You speak as though we are in a time of war. We are not.

Therefore Snowden is not a traitor.

And Snowden is exposing where the govt. has exceeded its constitutional authority which may be acceptable in wartime, it is unacceptable in peacetime.


21 posted on 12/26/2013 12:23:48 AM PST by staytrue
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To: staytrue

We ARE in a war, several in fact, but the Obama regime acts as though we aren’t. Radical jihadist Islam is at war with us, all over the war, including inside the US.

So is communism, be it Putin’s crypto-Communist thugacracy or the ultra-extreme Communists of Peking and Pyongyang.

Don’t forget Cuba, Nicaragua, Ecuador, Bolivia, possibly Argentina (a Peronista state), elements in Brazil (the marxists run the country, remember?), and of course, Hugo’s Venezuela.

Al Qaeda, the Taliban, the Islamic Caliphate, the Moslem Brotherhood - they ain’t democracy-loving brothers, in case you haven’t noticed. Their ideological/religious philosophies call for our subjugation or destruction.

Where I come from that is called “WAR”.

Some people are just blind to reality, like Neville Chamberlain and the guys who screwed up the fleet at Pearl Harbor, and ignored local FBI agents’ warnings before 9/11.

I’m not blind and don’t intend to be.

We are AT WAR on many fronts, so get used to it, prepare for it, and go for victory.


22 posted on 12/26/2013 12:37:45 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

If we are at war (or “WAR”, if you prefer), then declare it through constitutional means.


23 posted on 12/26/2013 1:10:10 AM PST by oblomov
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Kinda odd, coming from someone whose snarky, sarcastic FReeper handle is “The_Media_never_lie.”

A traitor, exposing what the government does to its citizens? The Founders would’ve been shooting the day the government passed NFA.


24 posted on 12/26/2013 1:18:13 AM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
I just read the Wikipaedia writup on Edward Snowden. He truly is an interesting guy, and a brilliant guy.

The article just confirmed my opinion of Snowden. I just do not see why he had to release all the damaging information on the US. All countries have espionage services. What gives him the right to damage the US? Is this the self loathing liberal mindset? He could have resigned his high paying job and opposed the spying by legal legitimate means. Why didn’t he take on the KGB or the Chinese espionage services, since he is so brilliant?

The man is a traitor. What is there about him that is admirable? He is in the same category as John Walker or Jonathan Pollard.

If I'm still cognizant of what's going on around me, and can move under my own power, I'll oppose to my last breath.

May your chains rest lightly upon you.

25 posted on 12/26/2013 1:22:24 AM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: wastedyears

I am actually very proud of my “snarky, sarcastic Freeper handle”. I learned in 1991 that the media was spiking stories of political interest that did not fit their agenda or world view. The media would just explain it away as an unconfirmed story, when the story was confirmed by credible, independent sources. Some people have, however, took the handle literally and thought I am a defender of the media, and that is the reason for the explanation in the tagline.

Yes, Snowden is a traitor who could have exposed what he deemed was being done to US citizens without damaging US interests. Instead, he denigrated our country’s position with regard to our allies and adversaries. He is getting what he deserves.


26 posted on 12/26/2013 2:26:13 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Third Person

I have to say, Edward Snowden has shown COURAGE and CHARACTER far exceeding that of anyone in Washington I can think of - especially exceeding that of Obama and the RINOs.
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27 posted on 12/26/2013 5:13:49 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: The_Media_never_lie

We ALREADY KNEW this was going on - remember Project Eschelon? Snowden just CONFIRMED it, and fleshed out the details. BOTTOM LINE: If they can lie and cover up the truth shoot-down of TWA Flight 800, they can lie and cover up ANYTHING. Maybe the story of the killing of Osama Bin Laden is a hoax, too.


28 posted on 12/26/2013 5:17:32 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Gene Eric

I personally think Snowden is a tool. an Obama tool.

The only things concrete that have come of this are the diminution of US trustworthiness, and the seeding of the populace with the thought, the fear or realization of the fact that the government owns them. Both are fundamental Obama crypto-communist goals.

The outrage is already forgotten, there has been no downside, the people have answered and said “we don’t care”.


29 posted on 12/26/2013 5:32:11 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I think Snowden has done minimal damage to us regarding military or intelligence operations. What did he reveal that everyone didn’t already know or strongly suspect was going on?

The REAL damage he inflicted was economic. It’s going to be a tough sell to get businesses in other countries to buy products and services from us, especially when electronics/communications are involved and could be compromised. The long term damage could go into the $Trillions.


30 posted on 12/26/2013 6:04:27 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Chickensoup

I am also thankful for Snowden, “a traitor to the traitors.”


31 posted on 12/26/2013 6:44:20 AM PST by Amigo04
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To: The_Media_never_lie
>>Snowden is a traitor.<<

The gubbamint’s fabricating an electronic barbed wire fence around it's citizens...and Snowden’s the traitor for sounding the alarm?

Man oh man, no wonder the gubbamint’s gotten away with this for so long. Folks are so willing to just hand over their liberty lock, stock and barrel.

Snowden standing on privacy for the individual, the gubbamint violating privacy for the individual guaranteed by our founding documents.....and Snowden’s the traitor! Wow...just wow!

32 posted on 12/26/2013 8:44:58 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: cherokee1

We’ll put you in the, “government good for illegally spying on and monitoring every move of the law abiding, and anyone exposing them bad” category...

Since ya already knew you were being gang banged by nasty corrupt government, it’s cool...

Good thinken...


33 posted on 12/26/2013 10:05:11 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Amigo04

Who’s job has been lost, who has been tried yet alone convicted, since this “exposure” of what was already known came to light?

There were some who lied to Congress about it subsequent to the release and even they have not been charged with any crimes.


34 posted on 12/26/2013 10:41:35 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: ecomcon

>> The outrage is already forgotten, there has been no downside, the people have answered and said “we don’t care”.

I agree.

There’s no angle to this story including public reaction that is acceptable to me.


35 posted on 12/26/2013 11:51:58 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

George Washington, Thomas Jefferson & Patrick Henry were traitors.


36 posted on 12/26/2013 9:50:13 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: The_Media_never_lie
So, what you are saying is that every government employee and every member of the military can examine each job function, each order, and each operation, and if they deem it improper, spill the beans to our enemies? Then they will be excused because they were patriots? And, were it not for Snowden’s treason, and his betrayal of our secrets to our enemies, we would never have known what was going on?

I think your point is correct.

They should just follow orders.

Oh, wait...

37 posted on 12/26/2013 9:52:36 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Revolting cat!

Revolting cat! for the thread win!


38 posted on 12/26/2013 9:53:11 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: cherokee1
You should be asking who the bleep gave a punk like Snowden access to anything important?

Actually, I'm thinking that Woolsey is the punk.

Snowden kept a copy of the Constitution on his desk so's he could gig Statist punks like Woolsey.

39 posted on 12/26/2013 9:56:03 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: The_Media_never_lie

You sound like a Statist.


40 posted on 12/26/2013 9:57:15 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Yes, Snowden is a traitor who could have exposed what he deemed was being done to US citizens without damaging US interests.

You've been on FR almost as long as I have, and you're still totally naive?

"If only Linda Tripp had come forward with her concerns publicly, instead of recording young Monica, everything would have worked out, and they wouldn't have had to destroy Tripp."

Did you just fall off the turnip truck?

41 posted on 12/26/2013 10:03:32 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

If I was the one in charge of approving security clearances, you wouldn’t get one.


42 posted on 12/27/2013 12:24:35 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Third Person
I think Edward Snowden is a real American hero..to let the people of this country know what is going on..
43 posted on 12/27/2013 4:58:47 AM PST by PLD
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To: The_Media_never_lie
If I was the one in charge of approving security clearances, you wouldn’t get one.

Spoken like a true Fascist...

44 posted on 12/27/2013 12:55:50 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: Third Person

But where are the Snowdens of yesteryear?


45 posted on 12/27/2013 1:35:55 PM PST by golux
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To: kiryandil

So, enforce any rules and you are a fascist? You speak like an anarchist.


46 posted on 12/27/2013 4:39:54 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done!s)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

You speak like a good little slave...


47 posted on 12/28/2013 6:34:31 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

You are a person who would rather call people names than discuss issues. There is no point in us discussing this issue further.


48 posted on 12/28/2013 7:29:43 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be dones)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
You are a person who would rather call people names than discuss issues.

Oh, but you calling ME an "anarchist" isn't "calling names"?

Smells like"hypocrite" to me...

49 posted on 12/29/2013 1:53:42 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: kiryandil

I did not call you an anarchist, I said you speak like an anarchist.


50 posted on 12/29/2013 5:50:09 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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