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Karl Rove: GOP Will Capture Senate in 2014
Newsmax ^ | Wednesday, 25 Dec 2013 07:37 PM | Todd Beamon

Posted on 12/25/2013 11:28:05 PM PST by Olog-hai

Political strategist Karl Rove congratulated himself on Wednesday for getting 10 predictions right for this year—and he forecast that Republicans will keep control of the House of Representatives and end up with as many as 51 seats in the Senate in next year’s congressional elections.

For 2014, President Barack Obama’s “disapproval rating will end higher than this week’s 53 percent” in the Gallup poll, Rove said in an op-ed piece in The Wall Street Journal.

“Republicans will keep the House with a modest pickup of four to six seats. The GOP will most likely end up with 50 or 51 Senate seats (in the former case, keeping Vice President Joe Biden fully occupied for two years presiding over the chamber),” Rove added. …

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 2014issues; 2014midterms; gopestablishment; karlrove; rino; teaparty; tokyorove
If it happens, it will be no thanks to the “architect” and his lefty-collaborating GOP-e.
1 posted on 12/25/2013 11:28:05 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

With Carl’s choices for new Senators, it won’t be any different than it is now.


2 posted on 12/25/2013 11:31:57 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Olog-hai

Why does anyone still pay attention to this over-hyped airbag?


3 posted on 12/25/2013 11:33:34 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: Olog-hai

If HE has anything to do with it, it won’t happen at all. He will TRY to see to it that nary a Conservative is allowed to run. Should WE persevere, we will be defeating rove as well as his dem-light cronies.


4 posted on 12/25/2013 11:35:07 PM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: EinNYC

Because he is anti-TEA Party AND anti-Palin. When Sarah makes her picks we will see where the grassroots stands. Until then, the press will try to keep him relevant. AFTER Sarah, game on.


5 posted on 12/25/2013 11:43:56 PM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: NTHockey
...it won’t be any different than it is now

The GOPe can always find a reason to not fight. Should the party control the US Senate, it won't have a veto-proof majority so it needs to compromise; if it gets a super-majority, it won't have the white house and so on.

Bush43 had the whole thing and the government grew at a greater pace than before.

6 posted on 12/25/2013 11:45:31 PM PST by stormhill
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To: Olog-hai

Cool, then McConnell and Ryan can work together to cut Military pensions even more!/

(while sending more than the amount “saved” to the Egypt, Pakistan, Libya, etc etc,,,,)

I have no confidence that a republican win in 2014 will change the direction we are headed in anyway whatsoever.


7 posted on 12/25/2013 11:48:32 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: stormhill

“Bush43 had the whole thing and the government grew at a greater pace than before.”

Exactly, everyone forgets that detail. We had the Senate, the House, the white house, and a pretty good working majority on most supreme court issues. And what did we get? An explosion is spending, prescription healthcare, TSA, the creepy Nazi-sounding Homeland Security dept, and a war that’s lasted 3 times as long as our involvement in WWII.


8 posted on 12/25/2013 11:52:07 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Olog-hai

I’ll believe it when I see it.

I do not trust Rove and what he has to say.


9 posted on 12/26/2013 12:05:50 AM PST by rawhide
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To: Olog-hai

Now I am worried!


10 posted on 12/26/2013 12:08:32 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: DesertRhino

Certainly not when it comes to Rove’s type of big-government Republican.


11 posted on 12/26/2013 12:09:41 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: DesertRhino

“everyone forgets that detail. We had the Senate, the House, the white house, “

Maybe you forgot the detail that in 2001, we had the senate by 50-50 plus cheney until july 2001 when a senator from vermont flipped and the dems had 51 until 2003.

Basically, we had the senate for about 4 out of the 8 Bush years and never had more than 55.


12 posted on 12/26/2013 12:15:39 AM PST by staytrue
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To: Olog-hai

Further: if they do it will probably be due to his nemesis tea party / conservative population.


13 posted on 12/26/2013 12:25:40 AM PST by Republican1795.
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To: Olog-hai

BUT be advised... The GOPe does NOT want 60+ members of republicans in the Senate to override a Zero Obama veto..

It is always Kibuki Theatre.. in D.C.
Trying to stem OFF the tide of a total route of democrats..
Even IF that means the democrat media will ensure that this happens..


14 posted on 12/26/2013 12:27:49 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe
The GAME MUST continue... until it's DONE..
UNless the elite political class is pulled down...
click for VIDEO--


15 posted on 12/26/2013 12:28:05 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: staytrue

“we had the senate for about 4 out of the 8 Bush years”

That’s not a good defense. The GOP had amazing opportunities, and decided to follow the GOPe agenda 100%.


16 posted on 12/26/2013 12:36:04 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: hosepipe

please explain term “Kibuki Theater” For Kabuki theater I could not find alternative definitions.


17 posted on 12/26/2013 2:00:30 AM PST by SMGFan (Sarah Michelle Gellar is now on twitter @RealSMG)
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To: SMGFan
Every thing is scripted in advance, no deviation from the planned script. Its all a “set-up”.
18 posted on 12/26/2013 2:39:39 AM PST by Lockbar ("WWVTID?": What Would Vlad The Impaler Do?)
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To: Olog-hai

"..nom nom nom nom....no thanks to you mouse brain"

19 posted on 12/26/2013 2:47:15 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Olog-hai

and we all should believe and trust this maggot Rove cause he supports only go along get along everyone makes money republicans?
This rove guy is garbage.


20 posted on 12/26/2013 2:48:40 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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To: Olog-hai

Shut up, Poppin’ Fresh...you are nothing more than a Rockerfeller Republican money whore...the Wasserman-Schultz of the GOPe...probably a closeted homosexual, to boot.


21 posted on 12/26/2013 2:55:39 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Olog-hai
Posted a short time ago on a companion thread:

Newt Gingrich contemplated the landscape and dreamed of doing "the impossible." Karl Rove considers the demographics, counts up the odds, and takes counsel of his fears.

To play with a metaphor: almost alone among military and civilians in 1861, Robert E Lee believed that the war would be prolonged and difficult. The rest of his countrymen wearing both gray and blue, generally believed that a short war would be quickly won. At the outbreak of the war and for the next year Robert E. Lee was generally regarded to be a commander noted for his prudence rather than for his daring. However, even before Lee got command he recognized that the strategic landscape had to be redrawn if the Confederacy were to survive much less prevail and so he unleashed Stonewall Jackson to wage his magnificent Valley campaign of 1862 which entirely changed the dynamics on the ground in Virginia in 1862.

When Lee took command of the Army of Northern Virginia he and Jackson understood that the South must inevitably lose a war of attrition. He also understood along with Jackson that the battlefield extended beyond the presence of the enemy to the civilians who sustained the enemy and so Lee dared once again to overcome an intimidating strategic landscape. To overcome great odds, to undermine civilian morale in the North, to gain life supporting recognition from other nations abroad, Lee invaded the North and very nearly succeeded in those goals.

Next year, motivated by the same considerations and understanding that to take risks with his army was perilous, Lee also knew that the strategy of avoiding mistakes was one which made defeat ultimately unavoidable so he invaded the North again in 1863. As in 1862, Lee came close to succeeding in 1863. In the next year, 1864, on battlefield after battlefield Lee demonstrated his daring and resourcefulness in the face of daunting numbers.

By Appomattox in April 1865, no one could doubt that the Confederacy, at least in the theater in the East under the command of Robert E Lee, had done everything that could be expected of mortal men to do on behalf of their cause. Lee was not entirely perfect, notably on the last day of Gettysburg at Pickett's Charge his tactical genius eluded him but no one can deny that Robert E Lee, more than any man contending under his handicaps, did all that could be expected of him.

Time after time Lee risked his personal reputation and his army because he had integrity enough to risk his own name on behalf of of a greater cause. Four years after the war began, no one would say that Robert E Lee lacked daring or that he lacked strategic vision.

What can we say of Karl Rove? Is he daring? No. Are the demographic odds against Republicans overwhelming and must inevitably spell our defeat? Yes. Has Karl Rove conceived of a single strategy which would change the landscape, change the rules of the game, indeed, change the game itself and give Republicans a chance to save their country? No, no and no again.

Every cycle Karl Rove advances a policy of minimal risk, daring little, changing nothing. Every year our relative demographic vis-à-vis the Democrats deteriorates. What is Karl Rove's answer? To abandon one state after another to the enemy. Does he attempt to invade Yankee states and catch up the civilian population in his cause? No, because he has no cause that stirs the hearts of men, North or South, East or West.

Ludendorff once remarked of the inept Austrian army, "we are shackled to a corpse." And so the conservative movement in America is shackled to the Republican Party and the Republican Party is dying at the hands of people like Karl Rove. We have seen what imagination and originality can do against daunting odds. Newt Gingrich once showed us the way. Today, Ted Cruz Mike Lee, Rand Paul point to a new and daring strategy.

In politics as in war one is either on defense or on offense and defense is no way to win wars or elections. Karl Rove is essentially a trimmer who calls himself an architect but is really a bean counter. An architect builds but Karl Rove sets out only to cut losses and succeeds too often only in generating losses. Karl Rove protects his reputation, fills his purse, and presides over the dying spasms of a national political party.

Everyone on this thread is aware that Karl Rove is a Rino but he is also a moral coward and a man of extremely limited strategic vision. Stonewall Jackson is the man, I believe, who actually coined the phrase, "never take counsel of your fears" but Karl Rove's ears hear no other message.


22 posted on 12/26/2013 3:05:29 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: All

Rove’s still into predictions? Even after Roger Ailes stomped all over him for predicting Romney would win——and Rover’s American Crossroads PAC almost went belly-up when donors demanded to know what happened to the $300 million he got to elect Romney.

Same w/ Dick Morris-—who now has crawled back into Fox’s good graces——introed as a “former Clinton advisor.”

Morris says 2014 will be a total Dem wipeout, that Republicans will gain enormously.

Morris predicted back in Nov that if Obama rescinds the cancellation avalanche, then nobody’s gonna sign up and then its Plan B-—generate enrollments by forcing people off their plans w/ no choice but to come into the exchanges.

Morris doesn’t know?——to date, Obama has made 14 major unilateral changes to O/Crap-—and its still a flop.

Dems must love it when these creepy guys predict Repub wins.


23 posted on 12/26/2013 3:14:35 AM PST by Liz
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To: Olog-hai

The GOP will still spend like drunken sailors. FU KR.


24 posted on 12/26/2013 3:15:06 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Olog-hai

What kind of GOP?


25 posted on 12/26/2013 3:15:14 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Olog-hai

Carl Rove is just a cherubic blow hard who busily runs the Republicrat Party into the ground.

The difference between these two parties is that each tells different sets of lies in order to grasp power.

Get on the stick, Tea Party (and Oath Keepers) to make a true difference in America by seizing power from these two totally bankrupt political power parties. Send their leaders off to historical obscurity.


26 posted on 12/26/2013 3:33:46 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Olog-hai

Even if Rove is correct, a RINO will switch party affiliation and keep the Marxist’s in charge of the senate. Tyrants play hardball.


27 posted on 12/26/2013 4:00:48 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: EinNYC

“Over-hyped airbag” is a good description; Sean Hannity, though conservative, hails him as the “architect” of the GWB mess. If he has MT on the “pickup” list, he had better recheck there. MT is more like WA state than WY except for presidential races, where it is competitive.


28 posted on 12/26/2013 4:11:28 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Even if Rove is correct, a RINO will switch party affiliation and keep the Marxist’s in charge of the senate. Tyrants play hardball."

I agree, but then again, if some random idiot RINO (McCain) switches parties, does it really change anything? NOPE.

29 posted on 12/26/2013 4:18:12 AM PST by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Olog-hai

The GOP is not winning the Senate and they’ll probably lose the House. Why do I feel that way? Because the idiots are going to pass amnesty in 2014 and blow any chance they have of recapturing both branches of government.


30 posted on 12/26/2013 4:23:25 AM PST by erod (I'm a Chicagoan till Chicago ends...)
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To: Olog-hai
Tokyo Rove, his white board and his band of rinos can kiss my dago ass {Happy New Year}.


31 posted on 12/26/2013 4:35:33 AM PST by USS Alaska (If I could...I would.)
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To: Olog-hai

OH JUST SHUT UP KARL!

JUST SHUT UP!


32 posted on 12/26/2013 4:36:50 AM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty and Let the the Stupid AmericanTaxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: nathanbedford
Thank you for your thoroughly thought out and well written, as usual, post. I hope everyone enjoys them as much as I do! :O)
33 posted on 12/26/2013 4:56:48 AM PST by Old Badger (Don't bother me! I still like Palin because she will tell like it is!)
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To: EinNYC

>> Why does anyone still pay attention to this over-hyped airbag?

I know I’ll never forget the rotund li’l gasbag’s performance during the 2012 election... that’s the image of Turd Blossom that’s stuck in my memory.

Give it up, Rove. Your glory days are over. You’re just an embarrassment now.


34 posted on 12/26/2013 4:58:52 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Olog-hai; All

Rove will make sure House goes Dem and Senate more Dem with his pushing and funding pro-Amnesty and pro-ObamaCare GOP


35 posted on 12/26/2013 5:11:21 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: Olog-hai

If is happens, and happens according to Rove’s picks, it will be of no benefit to Americans. In fact things could get worse.

Things will improve only if conservatives who are like Cruz and Lee succeed in replacing GOP establishment (GOPe) incumbents like McConnell, Graham, Alexander, Cornyn, Cochran, Roberts and Enzi.


36 posted on 12/26/2013 5:11:43 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Olog-hai

And WHAT will they do with it once they’ve got it?


37 posted on 12/26/2013 5:17:27 AM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Olog-hai

Hey Rove...we are focused on America winning. All you care about is republicans winning.

For America to win, we need respect for traditional family values and respect for the Constitution.

The republican party does not offer that.


38 posted on 12/26/2013 5:29:07 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: DesertRhino

The things that turned me against GWB who I had supported with thousands of dollars in contributions and on the ground support were:

* Dissing the Swift Boat Veterans and actively and publicly denigrating them

* Big boondoggle of Tax Reform Commission that after two years accomplished nothing.

* Huge expansions in federal government

* Failure to police and prosecute Wall St. and banking crimes

* Pushing Comprehensive Immigration Reform when the grassroots was firmly against it, just like now

* Listening to his ultra-liberal and clueless wife with whom he ‘married up’

* Nominating weak minded liberal Harriet Myers as Supreme Court Justice

In sum, GWB revealed his conservative talk was 10% religious conviction (good) and 90% bluster (RINO influences). He was confused, weak and unable to articulate a vision just like his father. He was good at exacting retribution from those that were enemies of his father but he abandoned conservatives in favor of RINO sellouts.

And to think how hard we worked to give him all of the Congress and a conservative leaning Supreme Court, and he squandered it. He went RINO on us; he became like McCain who I believe is brain damaged.


39 posted on 12/26/2013 5:33:13 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Olog-hai

We need to avoid unprepared candidates. The media has their job, and we better find candidates up to the job. Ideology purity is less important this time than agility and smarts. I’m tired of losing by because our guys shooting themselves. I want conservatives, but even a moderate Rino is damn better than a socialist. We lost Olympia’s seat in Maine, because we pushed her and didn’t have a lock solid plan to keep the seat. Having Olympia half the time is 100% better than the guy who replaced her. This was a very hard lesson to learn.


40 posted on 12/26/2013 5:42:52 AM PST by pithyinme (Oh great 3 more years of crap to wade through....)
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To: pithyinme

GO TO HELL RINO/GOP-e Lover!


41 posted on 12/26/2013 5:49:21 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: pithyinme

Amen


42 posted on 12/26/2013 5:50:10 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (Merry Christmas All)
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To: Olog-hai

If it happens, he will take credit. If it doesn’t, he can blame the Tea Party and claim they are responsible. In his mind, he can’t lose.


43 posted on 12/26/2013 6:25:48 AM PST by deweyfrank
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To: Olog-hai

“Karl Rove: GOP Will Capture Senate in 2014”

Now there’s the kiss of death.


44 posted on 12/26/2013 9:24:48 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: pithyinme

Ah, so you want ideological impurity to keep shoving the country so far left that we end up with gulags and re-education camps. I see.


45 posted on 12/26/2013 9:37:56 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Hostage

Was it really as high as ten percent religious conviction?


46 posted on 12/26/2013 9:38:48 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
There are 35 Senate races on the ballot for 2014. The seats are currently
held by 21 democrats and 14 republicans.

This link has a clickable map showing seats, primary info, etc.

Site list some potential democrat losses

47 posted on 12/26/2013 10:06:49 AM PST by deport
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To: Olog-hai

I don’t know. It’s just an expression to affirm that GWB has a Christian heart on some matters. But not much else he did was good.

Some will argue he passed the largest tax cut in history. In terms of nominal dollars yes that is true, but in terms of percentages, no it is not true.

So I can’t really bring to the argument his performance on taxes as it was both good and bad. Certainly he unleashed a lot of investment into Wall St. but he failed to police and prosecute the banking criminals aka the banksters who set the stage for a financial collapse.

But again on taxes, he was given a historic opportunity to overhaul the tax code or abolish it and enact a new code. But GWB like his father was a go-along-to-get-along type who never took a risk or was willing to create waves. He was at core a moderate who tended left after his wife more often than leading conservatives.

GWB got a lot of press heat for sure but they were left unchallenged, again because of his get along don’t make waves cowardice or countenance. Perhaps GWB wasn’t a coward, but he did not have the ability to bring down the house on the media like say Newt Gingrich. And given he was in his second term, what was to stop him from raining hell onto the jackals in the media? Bush was simply not a Lion.

Newt Gingrich unloaded on Anderson Cooper in the GOP Presidential debates of 2012. He was so effective that his poll tracking went through the roof on the days following the debate. But of course Gingrich has a habit of sticking his foot in his mouth or taking the discussion off topic and into some area that the media jackals can come back after him.

When it comes to being effective in Washington DC, one must be smart and deadly. Bush was not too smart and he was rarely deadly; Gingrich could be deadly but not always smart.

I am hoping Ted Cruz will bring everything necessary for lasting reforms that the current GOP fails brings to the table.


48 posted on 12/26/2013 10:31:20 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

Well, remember what Revelation 3:16 says about those who are lukewarm in their religion. It’s not possible to “get along” with those who are basically the enemy within.

(And me having lived in the northeast’s “tri-state area” for many years, when I see the acronym “GWB” I automatically think of the George Washington Bridge.)


49 posted on 12/26/2013 12:33:18 PM PST by Olog-hai
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