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The Jewish Relationship with Christmas
israel Monitor ^ | 12/25/2013 | Norma Zager

Posted on 12/26/2013 11:35:36 AM PST by Ari Bussel

Christmas day is usually a pretty quiet affair for Jewish people. Most spend it as a day to relax and catch up, watch movies, go to friends, eat Chinese food, have family over or just simply listen to Christmas music and read the ads for the after-Christmas sales.

I seem to find myself in a rather introspective mood this Yuletide season. Perhaps it is age creeping upon me, but I question the most basic issues, actually non-issues, and I can’t find answers. Perhaps others can supply the information I seek.

First and foremost why is it that Christmas songs are still written in the same tenor and inspirational tone, but there hasn’t been a decent Christmas movie since The Christmas Story?

The airwaves seem to be filled with hacky movies with a Christmas tree and nod to Santa Claus. These movies are so formula and comical it makes one wonder if two-year olds are writing these offerings.

Let’s see; boy meets girl, girl meets Santa, Santa fixes up girl and boy and then boy loses girl but then Santa makes everything all better. Wait a minute wasn’t that actually Miracle on 34th Street?

Perhaps it’s just that the actors of today are not Natalie Wood, Maureen O’Hara or Jimmy Stewart! It just isn’t the same as hearing that tingle when Clarence got his wings or Tiny Tim says, “God bless us everyone.”

But aside from the hacky warmed-over Christmas fare one is subjected to this time of year, there is a serious question that should be addressed.

Why, with all the pictures of the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem being shown on the news there is no mention of the fact that Bethlehem is now forbidden to Israelis?

That the churches in Muslim areas have been desecrated and destroyed, and that thousands of Christians are being murdered daily throughout the Middle East in an ethnic cleansing exercise by the radical Islamic world.

The PR machine of the radical Muslims apparently has once again managed to blind the world to the truth, cover their behavior with whipped cream and color it with a cherry on top.

I guess oil money can buy the best Madison Avenue has to offer and that grey flannel suit must be gold lined by now.

And the lies keep on a coming.

Israel, the only country in the Middle East where all are safe to exercise religious freedom, is being pressured by the United States to make concessions to those who call themselves “Palestinians” that would further ensure loss of religious freedoms.

How can you make a deal with a people who deny your right to exist? Shouldn’t that be the first requisite for peace talks?

So what is the point Norma, you ask? Just this.

Despite successful Palestinian narratives that rewrite the facts of history, the Jews and Christians for the first time are waking up to the fact they now have a common enemy. And oh also, Jesus was Jewish.

As in 600 AD there is a Christian and Muslim war heating up to epic proportions.

I am seeing for the first time in thousands of years, the words Judeo-Christian joined together as the key to dealing with horrific reality they are facing.

The Christian world – not the Catholic Church of course, but many –understands now the fact that as long as Israel is controlled by the Jewish people, Christianity is safe.

And the Jewish people also understand that in the Christian world they now finally have a powerful ally against the forces that seek to destroy them.

As the governments of the world, including the United States, ignore the fact that Christian children are being murdered daily in cold blood, the Judeo-Christian world must unite and stand up to the evil that is headed in their direction.

So, do the Jewish people have a relationship with Jesus and should it affect this new coalition?

Is Christmas just another great shopping opportunity? Or just perhaps it’s a family thing.

Kind of hard not to be a little proud of a family member that has done as well as Jesus.

Jewish families are nothing if not protective of family.

Perhaps it is time for the Jewish and Christian world to put aside their family squabbles and stand together against a common enemy poised upon their annihilation.

As in all families there will be arguments; who should pay, what should be done, whose responsibility is Uncle Albert? Yet, I am hopeful that one day, just as we will see a better crop of holiday movies, we will see the Judeo-Christian world unite to overcome the greatest enemy they have ever encountered.

Maybe this is the Christmas to do just that. If you don’t agree well then, Happy Shopping!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: aipac; christmas; jesus; judeochristian; radicalislam
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1 posted on 12/26/2013 11:35:36 AM PST by Ari Bussel
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To: Ari Bussel

>> “And oh also, Jesus was Jewish.” <<

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A fact that 99% of those that call themselves Christian seem to want to hide.


2 posted on 12/26/2013 11:44:34 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Ari Bussel

So who did you vote for in the last presidential race Ari?


3 posted on 12/26/2013 11:51:23 AM PST by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: Ari Bussel

We are also Jewish and totally agree.

Some are blind to the common enemy of Jews and Christians, because most of those never go to shul, never celebrate Shabbat (Reform) and are totally lib.
(montag’s wife)


4 posted on 12/26/2013 11:54:05 AM PST by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: editor-surveyor

Not one Christian I know would hide the fact Jesus was a Jew.

Are you Alec Baldwin?


5 posted on 12/26/2013 11:54:10 AM PST by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Not one Christian I know would hide the fact Jesus was a Jew.

Are you Alec Baldwin?


6 posted on 12/26/2013 11:54:44 AM PST by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: Ari Bussel

Sadly Muslim culture is not compatible with the values of the Enlightenment which are actually based on the Judeo-Christian experience. As far as squabbles, indeed it is time to recognize that a holiday that celebrates peace, joy, childhood glee and brings families together is something that should be enjoyed by everyone in some way.


7 posted on 12/26/2013 12:00:57 PM PST by allendale
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To: subterfuge

Jesus, a good Jewish boy who brought the world to the True God.


8 posted on 12/26/2013 12:02:10 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Louis Foxwell

Soon as we get rid of Obama and the democrats we will get right on this new crusade thing.


9 posted on 12/26/2013 12:03:04 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Ari Bussel

But American Jews vote overwhelmingly for, and in many cases are, the very dems who are leading the current purge of Judeo-Christian values from our social fabric.


10 posted on 12/26/2013 12:14:13 PM PST by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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To: editor-surveyor

May I assume you’ve never been in a Christian Church anywhere near Christmas time?


11 posted on 12/26/2013 12:18:44 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: subterfuge

You need to hang out at the religion forum for a while.

The worship described in the gospels is pure Judaism being practiced by Yeshua and the disciples, and in the Acts and the epistles it is the same Judaism fulfilled by the perfect sacrifice, but you’d never know it by the comments that get posted.


12 posted on 12/26/2013 12:19:21 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
A fact that 99% of those that call themselves Christian seem to want to hide.

I've never known a Christian who tried to hide that fact.

13 posted on 12/26/2013 12:19:44 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: editor-surveyor

Utter nonsense. What is wrong with you?


14 posted on 12/26/2013 12:21:00 PM PST by don-o (don-o loves Mrs. Don-o)
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To: GOPJ

Churches at christmas are the perfect example of what I meant. The traditions of christmas are a total distortion of the circumstances of his birth.


15 posted on 12/26/2013 12:22:57 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Ari Bussel

Christmas day is usually a pretty quiet affair for Jewish people. Most spend it as a day to relax and catch up, watch movies, go to friends, eat Chinese food, have family over or just simply listen to Christmas music and read the ads for the after-Christmas sales.


Interesting. That’s what my wife and I did. And we’re Christians. I see every day as Christmas and Easter.


16 posted on 12/26/2013 12:24:52 PM PST by cuban leaf
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To: editor-surveyor

“My boss is a Jewish carpenter”.


17 posted on 12/26/2013 12:25:45 PM PST by marron
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To: pgkdan

>> “I’ve never known a Christian who tried to hide that fact” <<

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How many ‘christians’ do you know that follow the example set by Yeshua and his disciples? - My guess would be zero.


18 posted on 12/26/2013 12:26:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Ari Bussel
The different Christian sects have been quibbling amongst themselves and with the Jewish for so long they never saw the Islam enemy coming until it hit them in the face. And yes, as a Christian I am fully aware Jesus was Jewish. I also keep Israel in my prayers.
19 posted on 12/26/2013 12:29:04 PM PST by Conservative4Ever (Happy New Year 2014)
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To: editor-surveyor

oh please. try being just a little less self righteous and snctimonious...


20 posted on 12/26/2013 12:29:30 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: marron

You mean a carpenter’s son, as the pharisees called him?

There is no evidence that he ever was a carpenter; he was following the course of study of a child priest.


21 posted on 12/26/2013 12:29:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: pgkdan

So observing reality is “self righteous?”

Describe how.


22 posted on 12/26/2013 12:31:02 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Ari Bussel

Decent Christmas movies? Nothing quite says “Merry Christmas” than Santa Claus whippin’ some Martian butt.

Santa Claus Conquers The Martians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnEJrwYXXsI


23 posted on 12/26/2013 12:31:42 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Ari Bussel

I can answer the question of what is causing 99% of Israel’s problems in the world. Surprisingly, it isn’t the Muslims. They are just an effect of this cause. The cause itself is entirely Israeli and Jewish.

Israel is the king of the “wishy-washy”. The expression meaning: “Lacking in strength of character or purpose; ineffective; weak in willpower. Insipid.”

If you took any other nation in the world, that had an enemy in its borders that aligned itself with a foreign enemy for the purpose of annihilating that nation and people, and it fought that foreign enemy off, what would it do with the domestic enemy that supported that foreign enemy?

Easy answer: it would either expel them or kill them. Because it would be insane to allow them to continue to live in their nation. They are traitors, a fifth column.

And mind you, this would only need to happen *once*, for *any* other nation in the world to expel or kill this enemy.

It has happened to Israel over and over again, and still Israel cannot bear the idea of expelling its murderous and vile enemies from its borders. Are they insane?

Only by dint of their being wishy-washy beyond any possible explanation have they allowed this situation to continue without end for more than half a century now.

And the part that is most aggravating for everyone else in the world who is sick to death of Israel’s inability to act to solve its own problem, is that acting would be so very easy to do.

Instead of being so wishy-washy, Israel should create a rule, that each and every time they are attacked by Muslims, the Palestinians would lose land. Why land? Because it is seemingly the only thing they care about.

And once lost, the Israelis must be firm that this land will never, ever again be owned by Muslims. It is forever forfeit. And if they attack Israel again, they will forever forfeit *more* land.

No matter what they promise or threaten, that land is gone to Muslims. Even if they get western nations to pressure Israel to return that land, because it is nothing, Israel must refuse to do so.

This would end the status quo. And Muslims would have only one choice: either attack and lose land, or peace.

Importantly, it has to be universal. Any Muslim attacks Israel, and the Paleos lose land. Doesn’t matter who, what faction they belong to, what nation they hail from.

If Israel did this ONE thing, then eventually this nonsense would end.

But Israel and Jews are too wishy-washy. And that is the path to destruction. It is their choice, but they have been wishy-washy for over half a century, so either they change, or they end by their own hand.


24 posted on 12/26/2013 12:35:39 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Last Obamacare Promise: "If You Like Your Eternal Soul, You Can Keep It.")
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To: subterfuge

Are you Barack Obama?


25 posted on 12/26/2013 12:35:49 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Ari Bussel
[...] eat Chinese food [...]

OK, I gotta ask - How can Chinese food possibly be considered kosher? Anyone?

26 posted on 12/26/2013 12:37:41 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

Not with all the Pork they use, and the shellfish too.


27 posted on 12/26/2013 12:39:39 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
Not with all the Pork they use, and the shellfish too.

I know, right? Maybe I stay away from Famous Dave's for no good reason!

28 posted on 12/26/2013 12:47:47 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Ari Bussel
Jews and Christians for the first time are waking up to the fact they now have a common enemy.

Outside the USA I think Israel is just about as unpopular with Christians as it is with everybody else.

Also, most of "the Christian world" is no such thing. It's post-Christian.

29 posted on 12/26/2013 12:51:35 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: roamer_1

I was wondering the same thing.


30 posted on 12/26/2013 12:51:40 PM PST by ~Pandora
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To: Louis Foxwell; Ari Bussel
Soon as we get rid of Obama and the democrats we will get right on this new crusade thing.

There is a thick thread of sarcasm woven through the words you have written, but you have written the truth.

In the 1,500 or so years of islam's existence there has never been what passes for "peace" between islam and the rest of the world that wasn't preceded by a military clash that killed enough muslims to cause them to retreat. muslims must die for that to happen, not Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Taoists, pagans, nor even atheists.

The same clash is in our future.

What passes for muslim "holy writ" calls for the death of "others," if need be. For muslims the death of "others" is just business as usual.

31 posted on 12/26/2013 12:52:38 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Well the thousands in the Middle East that are being murdered are not hiding. No other Christian that I know is hiding either.


32 posted on 12/26/2013 1:02:51 PM PST by Rock N Jones
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To: roamer_1

A lot of us Jews don’t keep kosher. The Chinese restaurant tradition comes from an assumption the Chinese are not Christian, perhaps Buddhist, and do not close for Christmas. My mother, my wife, and I went out for Chinese on Christmas eve.

When I was single, I went to a Jewish singles dance, either in Baltimore, or Washington. Christmas Eve rather sucks for a single Jew - nothing appealing on TV, and the weather can be awful.

I usually spend Christmas day visiting a shelter for homeless families and several other group homes operated by a local charity, on whose board I serve as a volunteer, thanking the staff for working on their holiday.

Then some quiet time at home with my wife, a book, and a pipe full of prime tobacco.


33 posted on 12/26/2013 1:05:57 PM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: Ari Bussel

Jesus was not only a Jew, he was Israeli, and I expect future major general of the IDF.


34 posted on 12/26/2013 1:09:41 PM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: subterfuge

You may want to reconsider this question?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2737879/posts


35 posted on 12/26/2013 1:12:33 PM PST by Rock N Jones
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To: subterfuge

I have proclaimed this truth on Free Republic for many years and that is a fact!


36 posted on 12/26/2013 1:12:43 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Daveinyork
A lot of us Jews don’t keep kosher.

Ahh, there it is! Some of us Christians do - albeit differently, not relying upon the Rabbinic Traditions.

Christmas Eve rather sucks for a single Jew

Heh. I get that. Try being a Torah observant (trying anyway) Christian some time...

I usually spend Christmas day visiting a shelter for homeless families and several other group homes operated by a local charity, on whose board I serve as a volunteer, thanking the staff for working on their holiday. Then some quiet time at home with my wife, a book, and a pipe full of prime tobacco.

Excellent. Thank you for your reply.

37 posted on 12/26/2013 1:18:08 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: editor-surveyor
There is no evidence that he ever was a carpenter; he was following the course of study of a child priest.

What is your evidence for this? Jesus was not from a priestly family or even a Levite. He was of the royal house of the tribe of Judah.

When he sat down with the scribes and scholars for three days in the temple at the age of 12, he amazed them by his learning and deep knowledge of the Scriptures. I think they would have been more amazed by a carpenter's (builder's) son, with only the elementary teaching given him, than a prodigy halfway through a college course.

38 posted on 12/26/2013 1:19:47 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: ~Pandora
see #33

Those who do this are not kosher observant.

39 posted on 12/26/2013 1:21:28 PM PST by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Ari Bussel

Christians and Jews, bothers and sisters, family.


40 posted on 12/26/2013 1:21:42 PM PST by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: Ari Bussel
eat Chinese food

I had to laugh when I read that. Shortly after I got married I entered graduate school. On my bride's and my first Christmas together, I wanted to take her out to dinner. I phoned around the University area to find a restaurant that was open. The only one open was a Chinese restaurant, so we went there.

41 posted on 12/26/2013 1:24:13 PM PST by JoeFromSidney
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To: subterfuge; editor-surveyor
I have never in my life met one, single Christian --- Catholic, Orthodox, Evangelical or Protestant --- that wanted to cover up that Jesus was Jewish.

Maybe it's different on some distant island or some lost cove deep, deep in the mountains. What say, surveyor?

42 posted on 12/26/2013 1:24:54 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ( "It's all been satirized for your protection." - Bill Maher)
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To: Ari Bussel
They “simply listen to Christmas music”? That doesn't make sense,any more than it does for a Christian in Israel to participate in any was during Passover,etc.
43 posted on 12/26/2013 1:30:26 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: editor-surveyor; marron

In Mark 6:3, we get the same word [tekton= carpenter, builder] that was used to describe Jesus’ foster-father, describing Jesus himself. (”Is this not the carpenter?”).


44 posted on 12/26/2013 1:33:38 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ( "It's all been satirized for your protection." - Bill Maher)
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To: Ari Bussel

I agree — the “kids” need to stop squabbling in the sandbox while the Islamic wolf is circling around for a kill. We have too much in common not to get along better.


45 posted on 12/26/2013 1:41:32 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Me neither. Jesus was a Jew, and as Christ, had to invent Christianity. He became Christian.

Hard sell in those days, but he pulled it off.

46 posted on 12/26/2013 1:41:53 PM PST by txhurl
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To: editor-surveyor

As a Christian, I love my jewish brothers. But as long as they keep voting for evil people like obama , Shumer and Bloomberg I’ll not worry about them much. Looks like you stewed over my comments for a few posts then got allittle emotional. I understand.


47 posted on 12/26/2013 1:43:10 PM PST by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: RobinOfKingston

I believe an /s is only needed if the tome is weak. Thanks for reading my words as they were intended.
There must be a Crusade to drive the muslim hoard back into the desert. It is coming, soon.


48 posted on 12/26/2013 2:23:58 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Yeshua? Why not just use the name Jesus? You sound a little uppity for my taste sir.


49 posted on 12/26/2013 2:34:54 PM PST by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: RobinOfKingston

Amen. And btw, like your tagline. :-)


50 posted on 12/26/2013 2:39:46 PM PST by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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