Skip to comments.Citizens take law into own hands after cash-strapped Ore. county guts sheriff's office
Posted on 12/26/2013 12:40:06 PM PST by moonshinner_09
When budget woes reduced the sheriff's department in one rural Oregon county to a bare-bones force, residents decided to take matters into their own hands -- creating armed patrol groups in defiance of local officials.
Their decision has raised safety concerns with the county government, which would prefer residents instead hike their own taxes to fund the hiring of trained deputies. But despite the risks, the move stands as a unique, some would say innovative, response to one of the country's most severe local budget crunches.
The government in Josephine County, where nearly 70 percent of the land is owned by the U.S. government, had long relied on federal timber subsidies to pay the bills. When the feds terminated the funds, county officials scrambled to pass a May 2012 tax levy to make up a nearly $7.5 million budget shortfall.However, the county's residents voted against the levy, and as a result the Josephine County Sheriffs Office was gutted. The major crimes unit closed, dozens of prisoners were released from the county jail and the department reduced operations to Monday-Friday, eight hours a day.
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Another Obama success story for his scrapbook
The first of many similar situations in this country.
Beats big, slow, indifferent, spoiled, Democrat-style government any day.
Local govts always use this tactic when budgets get out of control.
Good for these citizens for finding other options!
where nearly 70 percent of the land is owned by the U.S. government,
Well there is your problem.
Protect the other 30% and let Obama protect the rest.
” raised safety concerns with the county government, which would prefer residents instead hike their own taxes to fund the hiring of trained deputies”
Trained “deputies” means trained “revenue generators.”
new and unique?
But I thought people loved high taxes....
Yeah--I'd vote for that/NOT!
I think a local militia is what is needed here---made up of "We, the People."
It has been my experience that most private gun owners are well trained. If they are "legal" gun owners, (and I hate that term), they would probably turn out to be the best police force they have seen in that county.
“the county government, which would prefer residents instead hike their own taxes
Yeah—I’d vote for that/NOT!”
Protection money. There’s a Sicilian outfit that operates the same way.
FM 7-8 and SH 21-76 make for useful publications to augment existing training. Especially in groups.
My concern would be when the fedgov decides that a local militia, or the citizens in this town become a threat.
After they start catching some crooks.
Much of that was privately owned by timber companies who paid juicy taxes on their harvests.
Then came the spotted owls. Timber companies left and the USFS adopted the land and pay no local taxes.
Rural Oregon county, aka very few "teens" and "youths" to keep in check.
Wouldn’t surprise me if crime goes way down in that area. The criminals know the sheriff’s department has cut way back but they also know there are now armed patrols. They’ll probably go elsewhere to commit their crimes.
Then they should sell it or pay taxes on it.
I think the dogs in Josephine county approve...
Curry County is under threat, also. Kitzhaber now has power to move in and raise property taxes, as I understand it. I used to joke about the Neighborhood Watch program in Powers, OR...4 shotguns, 4 shovels.
The sheriff’s department should run classes for reserve deputies. And start deputizing citizens.
Or do nothing and be made irrelevant by the citizens.
The web site also features employment opportunities for a "Human Resources Director" and a "Public Health Nursing Program Supervisor".
How could any rural Oregon county survive without someone to supervise their own Public Health Nursing Program?
Governments always cut essential services in an effort extort more tribute out of the peasants.
I’m pretty sure that this is “historical”.
You really think so? It has been my experience that most private gun owners -- as opposed to active range shooters, etc. -- simply inherited or purchased a firearm and have no training whatsoever.
But these good people called their bluff.
Exactly! Did you see anything about major cuts in other county operations? Use the threat of reduced safety to coerce residents into raising taxes on themselves, it always works, er almost always.
That's exactly right - The sheriff should welcome this. There is a lot more to it than 'armed patrols', and the local militia would benefit from the organizational skills and training the sheriff can offer.
Yup. There will be no one to protect you. No one to put out your house if it catches fire. Women and children most affected... /sarcasm. Anything to keep the money tap flowing.
I owned some property in an area that was too remote for the sheriff to patrol. So the ranchers were issued a badge.
When they had a problem, they’d meet up, someone would bring the badge, and they’d go make the arrest. The sheriff would meet them on the highway half way to take custody of the perp.
Yeah, the backwoods here is pretty much off limits to the sheriff and the fish cops... not against the authority mind you, but like you had stated, it is just way out of patrol range, and far too large regionally for any attempt at patrol... The same sort of semi-symbiosis exists informally there.
But town cops are a whole nuther thing... resolution is not always about use of force, and folks aren't as keen on independence as the backwoods folks are. Drunk and disorderly, disturbing the peace, domestic violence, etc... all are more nuanced than the black and white security issues, and require a different sort of strategy. The sheriff can supply the training and techniques for such situations, if he is willing, and the community would benefit.
The same goes for jailers, which is a different kind of cop too...
This is attempted blackmail. The rest of them ought to be fired and the citizens can just start over with a new PD and local government that is more suited to serve the taxpaying citizens.
It's amazing how many people don't even understand the original underlying meaning of the term "law enforcement." A law enforcement officer wasn't given the task of protecting citizens and making sure nobody broke the law. Law-abiding citizens didn't need this kind of protection, since most of them were armed to the teeth (probably armed better than the local sheriff). The purpose of the law enforcement officer was -- and still is -- to make sure that someone accused of a crime was apprehended for his own protection and given a fair trial ... as opposed to getting hunted down by a posse and hung from a tree somewhere.
When our hired help police can no longer do the job its up to We the People to do it.
Turns out barred owls were more of a threat to spotted owls than lumber companies were.
The sheriff should deputize them. That way the citizen groups will be able to use the “I felt Threatened Defense.”
And shoot one another's dogs. :)
“Wouldnt surprise me if crime goes way down in that area.”
I agree with that, once criminals realize there are very few cops around to protect them, they will move on to safer grounds.
Yeah, you can bet these citizen patrols are looking for real criminals, not sitting on the side of the road playing solitare on the laptop waiting for the radar gun to beep.
Yeah, funny what they decided to cut, what they decided to keep. Hope the good citizens remember that come election time...
"you may want to consider relocating to an area with adequate law enforcement services"
or you may want to consider buying a defensive handgun and learn how to use it, because we call a Restraining Order "paper Kevlar". Even in a life-threatening situation, just remember that when seconds count, we are only minutes away.
Ran into a dimwit violating quite a few rules of gun safety, which could have resulted in great bodily harm to me. He assured me that he’d been in the Army for 25 years and I had nothing to worry about. Shit-fer-brains.
Even the lumber companies finally fessed up that mechanization caused a lot of the job losses. If you’re Wyerhauser, ya want the loggers mad at the hippies, not at you.
Rock Ridge in the 21st Century.
They pointed out the obvious problem, that 70% of their land has been taken by the federal government.
If that land is returned to them, and they are able to use their land, much of their problems will disappear.
So they need their state legislators to demand the return of these lands.
It is about that simple. The county next to mine has about 90% government owned land. There aren't any people living on the Kings land, so there really isn't much to protect.
I suspect the same here in the original news story. The large majority of the law enforcement costs are for the 30% already.
Screw’em when they have an incident I will offer my services to the Plaintiff's attorney as a back round witness.
When I informed Army dude that he was firing in an unsafe direction he said “Why? What’s down there?”
I’ll bet none of the political big wigs in that county had any of their salaries and perks cut.
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