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Gov. Mary Fallin issues ban on electronic cigarettes, vapor devices due to potential health effects
AP, KJRH Tulsa ^ | 12/24/13 | AP

Posted on 12/26/2013 3:18:32 PM PST by DallasBiff

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) -- Gov. Mary Fallin has issued an executive order that bans the use of electronic cigarettes and vapor devices on state property, saying the potential long-term health effects of the products are unknown.

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Fallin is an anti-smoking advocate and says that electronic cigarettes and similar products emit vapor that contains chemicals and can impact bystanders

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: bloomberg; ecigarette; fallin; pufflist; smoking
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Oklahoma Gov.Mary Fallin and Mayor Bloomberg, birds of a feather.
1 posted on 12/26/2013 3:18:32 PM PST by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

We can’t have people just doing any danged thing they want to, can we?


2 posted on 12/26/2013 3:20:05 PM PST by marron
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To: DallasBiff

Farts have “potential health effects” too. Shall we ban them?


3 posted on 12/26/2013 3:20:33 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Water vapor is a deadly toxin?


4 posted on 12/26/2013 3:23:03 PM PST by Salamander (Hey, Jack the Ripper, won't you come on over... hook me up to the power lines of your love...)
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To: DallasBiff
Second smoke danger from E-Cigarettes according to a kook.
5 posted on 12/26/2013 3:23:08 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: DallasBiff

E cigs are alot safer than regular smokes, but that wont stop libs from trying to ban the lesser of two evils...


6 posted on 12/26/2013 3:24:46 PM PST by GraceG
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To: DallasBiff

“No Clear Link Between Passive Smoking and Lung Cancer”, Journal of the National Cancer Institute:

http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/105/24/1844.extract


7 posted on 12/26/2013 3:25:36 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Salamander

Isn’t fluid build-up in the lung one of the side-effects of pneumonia? I’m not making any judgments; just asking about water vapor in the lungs.


8 posted on 12/26/2013 3:26:06 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: DallasBiff

Oklahoma?!? Jeez!


9 posted on 12/26/2013 3:26:16 PM PST by sheana
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To: DallasBiff
Gov. Mary Fallin has issued an executive order

Does a mere governor have that power?

10 posted on 12/26/2013 3:26:30 PM PST by marron
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To: DallasBiff

they keep growing government and at the same time taking away our freedoms

when will all these morons realize that government is the problem?

as government expands freedom ,opportunity and civilization contract


11 posted on 12/26/2013 3:27:42 PM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: marron

we can’t have people actually quit smoking cigarettes now can we?.....we have to make sure a certain number remain addicted so the states can collect all those cigarette taxes...


12 posted on 12/26/2013 3:28:37 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: DallasBiff

“Fallin is an anti-smoking advocate and says that electronic cigarettes and similar products emit vapor that contains chemicals and can impact bystanders”

Hogwash. A couple family members of mine use E-Cigs, and you’d have to be sitting right next to them in a broom closet to notice anything. I’m more impacted by the guy having stinky bleu cheese dressing on his salad at lunch at the next table than someone with an E-Cig.

I don’t like bleu cheese much.


13 posted on 12/26/2013 3:28:38 PM PST by DemforBush (Ice cream, Mandrake? Children's ice cream?)
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To: marron

Yes, but on;y regarding state owned facilities—not state-wide.

Same with DC—a presidential executive order only pertains to the Federal government activities, not nation wide activities.


14 posted on 12/26/2013 3:29:04 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: exit82
Does a mere governor have that power?... Yes, but only regarding state owned facilities—not state-wide...

Thanks... I missed that part of the story.

15 posted on 12/26/2013 3:31:20 PM PST by marron
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To: DallasBiff

Are e-cigarettes taxed? If not, you have the answer to the ban.


16 posted on 12/26/2013 3:31:34 PM PST by anoldafvet (If you think the government is capable of taking care of you, just look at the indian tribes)
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To: DallasBiff

control freaks and nothing more.Come on Oklahoma,fire this spert.


17 posted on 12/26/2013 3:32:03 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: DallasBiff

Is she a Democrat?


18 posted on 12/26/2013 3:33:31 PM PST by impimp
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To: carriage_hill

I live in southern Louisiana where the humidity is near 100% pretty much from May to October. I breath lots of water vapor and have yet to be struck down by pneumonia.


19 posted on 12/26/2013 3:33:40 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: DallasBiff

Oh, come on, Mary. Just shut up and promote the oil industry and let people smoke - or breathe steam - if they want to.


20 posted on 12/26/2013 3:33:52 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Try not to get too far ahead in the story. Spoilers abound." ~ Nicknamedbob)
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To: Salamander

Good grief! What has this country become?


21 posted on 12/26/2013 3:35:02 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: impimp

She’s with the UNIPARTY.


22 posted on 12/26/2013 3:35:18 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE
control freaks and nothing more.Come on Oklahoma,fire this spert

Actually, she's a pretty good governor on financial issues, but she has Mayor Bloomberg fetish.

23 posted on 12/26/2013 3:36:29 PM PST by DallasBiff (Lautenberg The Forefather of "The Nanny State!")
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To: servantboy777
Good grief! What has this country become?

A serfdom. Now, hand over your steam sticks...

24 posted on 12/26/2013 3:36:56 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: DallasBiff

I don’t smoke, but as far as I’ve heard, e-cigerettes have not been associated with any health woes. And they smell better too.


25 posted on 12/26/2013 3:37:38 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: marron

Unless we tax them out the wazoo.

I started using a vaporizer back in September. My nicotine cigarette use is down to about 1-2 a week. The nicotine level in the vaporizer is down to “3” out of “16”. AND..I haven’t piled on a lot of pounds. I can see a total end in sight.

Since I have smoked for 45 years...this is a big victory in the making for me.

All this whining about them now has to do with the lack of taxation and the young’uns using them to smoke illegal substances. Because there is no way the young’uns can figure out other ways, blunts...etc.


26 posted on 12/26/2013 3:38:19 PM PST by berdie
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To: DemforBush
>>I don’t like bleu cheese much.<<

Don't be a hater!

27 posted on 12/26/2013 3:38:19 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: marron

A lot of kids are using these to smoke drugs. The vaping craze is big time in Florida right now.


28 posted on 12/26/2013 3:38:29 PM PST by lodi90
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To: TADSLOS

There is a BOOMING black market for marijuana based cartridges. People are even getting high on the Amtrak back and forth from NYC to DC.


29 posted on 12/26/2013 3:38:37 PM PST by cumbo78
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To: DallasBiff
Generally, for a law to be considered lawful, it must serve some public need. ‘Maybe’ harmful has never reached that particular threshold, and I strongly suggest that someone fighting this inane piece of directive should pull the court viewpoint from NY; nothing better than to use the same court reasoning that doomed Bloombergs big gulp banning.
30 posted on 12/26/2013 3:38:56 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: DallasBiff

no more government laws at any level . we have enough.

how about a moratorium on new laws?

just repeal , starting with obamacare, then repeal the 1965 immigration act etc.


31 posted on 12/26/2013 3:39:03 PM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: cumbo78

I’d be high too if I rode Amtrack from NYC to DC.


32 posted on 12/26/2013 3:40:35 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: DallasBiff
the potential long-term health effects of the products are unknown.

That is an irrational rationale. If it were applied, half or more of the products ever invented or created could be banned by such a ridiculous reason.

Is Gov. Fallin another nannystater?
33 posted on 12/26/2013 3:41:29 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: marron
Does a mere governor have that power?

Lawyers are probably already lining up to challenge.
34 posted on 12/26/2013 3:43:45 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Joe 6-pack

I think those e-cigs are more ‘direct injection’ of concentrated water vapor, than simple breathing. Whoops, it’s fluid and pus filling-up the lungs’ air sacs:

http://www.lung.org/lung-disease/pneumonia/understanding-pneumonia.html

No correlation between it and e-cigs, then. That said, I’ve been a 2-pack-a-day Marlboro Red smoker, for the past 51yrs, and my lungs are clear. No emphysema symptons, either.


35 posted on 12/26/2013 3:44:07 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: lodi90

So.


36 posted on 12/26/2013 3:45:09 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: cumbo78

I don’t doubt your word at all. The thing that makes me wonder would be the odor. In certain non-nicotine blends of vaporizer fluid there is an odor. I think the odor of marijuana would be really hard to disguise.

I’m told mine smells like cotton candy.


37 posted on 12/26/2013 3:50:36 PM PST by berdie
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To: marron
Gov. Mary Fallin has issued an executive order

Does a mere governor have that power?

All these "orders" Eventually people ignore them. Which they should.

38 posted on 12/26/2013 3:52:13 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: DemforBush

I don’t like bleu cheese much.


It is an acquired taste. The key is to start out with fresh blue, with fruit, then later move on to the aged blues.

If you can get a blue brie, it might make the acquaintance easier.


39 posted on 12/26/2013 3:53:58 PM PST by txhurl
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To: DallasBiff

in other news Bloomberg bans large Sodas. And democrats rejoice and bend down to their god, government


40 posted on 12/26/2013 3:54:27 PM PST by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: DallasBiff

Liberal weenies have been so conditioned to not just dislike, but actually FEAR cigarettes, that I’ll bet if a fad erupted where people just walked around with paper tubes in their mouths, there would be an uprising against that, too.


41 posted on 12/26/2013 3:56:13 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: DallasBiff

Does this apply to my kids electronic candy cigarettes?


42 posted on 12/26/2013 3:58:01 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: DallasBiff
Fallin is an anti-smoking advocate...

Translation: Fallin is an ex-smoker!

Fixed it.

Really Oklahoma? The state where every single county voted Republican in like the last 3-4 presidential elections?

43 posted on 12/26/2013 4:00:21 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: cherry

And those taxes are “for the children’s health programs”.

Light Up Folks! Support Children’s Health.

Orwell would think even this was satire.


44 posted on 12/26/2013 4:01:53 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: marron

The governor can control state property.


45 posted on 12/26/2013 4:02:26 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: cumbo78

Finally!


46 posted on 12/26/2013 4:03:25 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: DallasBiff

These are always the same problem who have absolutely no problem with making smoking of marijuana legal, although the effects are ten times worse.


47 posted on 12/26/2013 4:04:05 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: carriage_hill

Never taken a hot shower? Never walked in the fog? For that matter, never walked in the rain? Have you ever used a vaporizer when you had a cold?

Have you ever noticed when it is really cold you can see your breath, hint, that is water vapor.

It is not likely inhaling water vapor is going to cause pneumonia.


48 posted on 12/26/2013 4:04:23 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: txhurl

Sorry for the pun, but I just hurled! Hate bleu cheese.


49 posted on 12/26/2013 4:04:35 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: DallasBiff
Gov. Mary Fallin has issued an executive order that bans the use of electronic cigarettes and vapor devices on state property, saying the potential long-term health effects of the products are unknown.

Right. So the new criteria is 'unknown risks' are enough to ban stuff.

Well, THAT should help America innovate.

What an asshat.

50 posted on 12/26/2013 4:04:43 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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