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New Obamacare fees coming in 2014
NY Post ^ | Dec 25, 2013 | S.A. Miller and Geoff Earle

Posted on 12/26/2013 9:02:28 PM PST by Innovative

Here comes the ObamaCare tax bill.

The cost of President Obama’s massive health-care law will hit Americans in 2014 as new taxes pile up on their insurance premiums and on their income-tax bills.

But one insurance company, Blue Cross Blue Shield of Alabama, laid bare the taxes on its bills with a separate line item for “Affordable Care Act Fees and Taxes.”

Under ObamaCare, individual tax filers earning more than $200,000 and families earning more than $250,000 will pay an added 0.9 percent Medicare surtax on top of the existing 1.45 percent Medicare payroll tax. They’ll also pay an extra 3.8 percent Medicare tax on unearned income, such as investment dividends, rental income and capital gains.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; incometax; obamacare; obamarecession; obamataxhikes; taxes
Remember -- if you have significant capital gains, that will push you into the higher bracket and you pay an additional 3.8% on "investment dividends, rental income and capital gains.", which will discourage investments, which are taxed already.

This all is aimed at collapsing the economy and have socialism take its place -- "the government will take care of you", you don't need a paycheck, they will just allocate you food, clothes, medical care, etc -- this is just the first step.

... and you think I'm kidding...

1 posted on 12/26/2013 9:02:28 PM PST by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Hitting the middle class the hardest, I bet.


2 posted on 12/26/2013 9:05:04 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

“Hitting the middle class the hardest, I bet.”

Naturally — need to take away from them and give it “to the poor”.

They are taking away incentives from people to work, save and get ahead.

ObamaCare: Older Workers Could Pay 25% Of Income

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3105630/posts


3 posted on 12/26/2013 9:09:05 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative
They’ll also pay an extra 3.8 percent Medicare tax on unearned income, such as investment dividends, rental income and capital gains.

The economy has no chance.

4 posted on 12/26/2013 9:12:09 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Innovative

People who bust their ass for a living are about to pay out the ying yang for Barry Soetoro’s “signature” achievement. “Embrace the suck!”


5 posted on 12/26/2013 9:14:30 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The Truth Is Out There. Just don't let anyone know that you're looking for it.)
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To: TigersEye
The goal:


6 posted on 12/26/2013 9:14:49 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

the difference between us and the people in that picture is that they don’t have 200 million privately owned guns in their country.


7 posted on 12/26/2013 9:25:24 PM PST by willywill
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To: Innovative

Funny how Great Leader says he won’t enforce the deadlines. I’m certain he will enforce the fees.


8 posted on 12/26/2013 9:26:18 PM PST by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: AD from SpringBay

Sell your house no matter your income pay Obamacare 3%


9 posted on 12/26/2013 9:30:45 PM PST by scooby321
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To: Innovative

We sounded the alarm.
Ted Cruz sounded the alarm.
I do not understand why America is grabbing it’s ankles.


10 posted on 12/26/2013 9:33:34 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Innovative

people have not even digested the first wave and here comes the second..


11 posted on 12/26/2013 9:36:24 PM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: scooby321

3.8% according to the article. I think that comes under capital gains.


12 posted on 12/26/2013 9:36:39 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: mylife

Nausea is like that. 0bamaCare causes nausea.


13 posted on 12/26/2013 9:37:44 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: scooby321

Can’t believe the National Association of Realtors let that one slide through. It’ll kill traditional MLS listings with a full service listing agent. Less money netted from the sale is just great for sellers, too, with prices still depressed in much of the country. I don’t know whether it’s malicious or clueless. I suppose it could be both.


14 posted on 12/26/2013 9:39:21 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: mylife

Because we are the minority.

I don’t like it either.


15 posted on 12/26/2013 9:43:52 PM PST by berdie
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To: scooby321; TigersEye; RegulatorCountry
Sell your house no matter your income pay Obamacare 3%

It's not that bad. It's actually 3.8% but it's only on the amount your gains on the home exceed $500,000 or something like that, and even then, only if your taxable income is over $250,000, so it's going to hit a lot fewer people than if it were 3.8% on any gain at any income.

16 posted on 12/26/2013 10:03:25 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Capital gains are part of your taxable income — so when you sell an appreciated asset, such as your home or stocks, that can kick your income above $200K and the 3.8 ADDITIONAL tax kicks in.

And you know how taxes go — initially only those making over $1,000,000, back when that was real money, paid 1% income tax and look at income taxes today.

That extra 3.8% on capital gains is here to stay and will be applied to everyone — I think the US already has one of the highest capital gains taxes in the world.

Compare to Russia where there is NO capital gains tax and there is something like a 12% flat tax on income.


17 posted on 12/26/2013 10:13:24 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Still Thinking

You can read all the details of this sneaky 3.8% tax right on the IRS website:

http://www.irs.gov/uac/Newsroom/Net-Investment-Income-Tax-FAQs


18 posted on 12/26/2013 10:19:13 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Still Thinking

I’m putting my house on the market at the end of March, and was scouring for details. Thanks, I’m relieved not to be getting another cost hit, the insurance itself is bad enough. I don’t know how a lot of people are going to hold it together, it’s going to be a huge ongoing hit to discretionary spending because they just won’t have much left.


19 posted on 12/26/2013 10:20:57 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Still Thinking

As I said in my post 16 — the IRS discussion the link to which I posted in my post 17 makes it clear (their item 20) clearly shows that when calculating the threshold, income and capital gains are added, so if you do have significant capital gains, that quite likely pushes you into the bracket where you have to pay the additional capital gains of 3.8% “medicare tax”


20 posted on 12/26/2013 10:23:39 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

True, but only the portion of any gains over some threshold, $500K for married couples I think, gets included in that income. Not that ANY new tax is ever a good thing, but I don’t want people running around thinking it’s going to be common to pay 3.8% on all gains, or on the sale price.


21 posted on 12/26/2013 10:28:58 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Thanks for the info. I guess I’m safe from exceeding any of those figures. I’m still against it and still think it will be another drag on the economy.


22 posted on 12/26/2013 10:42:16 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Still Thinking

But the over $200K is misleading, because the capital gains is calculated into that income also, so the converse is true too that people who make $100K think they don’t fall under this rule, but if they have significant cap gains, that pushes them into this.

Not to mention that “the rich” are already paying the major portion of income taxes and continuing increase of taxes takes away incentive and what happens when we will all be equally poor?


23 posted on 12/26/2013 10:47:20 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: mylife

The real alarm was ignored by many during 2012 election.
See my tag line. They figured Obama was no worse than the moderate from Massachusetts. Now we all pay the price.


24 posted on 12/26/2013 10:47:51 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: Innovative
what happens when we will all be equally poor?

That precisely is president Zero's goal! He wants all the successful people to be brought down to the level of his food stamp people. Then his people will not feel inferior.

Zero thinks he is Robin Hood. Except he will never tell you that in every country which experimented wealth re-distribution, the result was always poverty distribution for all except the ruling class.

25 posted on 12/26/2013 10:53:00 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: Innovative

True enough.


26 posted on 12/26/2013 10:58:57 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: RegulatorCountry; Still Thinking

Check out the details on the IRS website, a more reliable place for info, than posters anywhere, including FR:

http://www.irs.gov/uac/Newsroom/Net-Investment-Income-Tax-FAQs

Still Thinking may be well intentioned but he is not correct.


27 posted on 12/26/2013 11:00:46 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

My family is the principal share holder of a S-corporation. The company shows a nice gross profit and a great net ,(on paper).

We do pull income from the company that helps us live a comfortable (for a 70 year old man and wife) life.

The company has 29 employees with an average employment of 20 years. I started it in 1970 with just myself and one other.

I had to get off the medical plan and go on medicare, part a b (medicare for D)
I retired at 62 and began to draw SSI. My latest SSI check was 1770.00.

When I signed up for the Obummer health plan I was told “Your income
(because as a Sub S status) your company showed a great taxable income,
even if you didn’t get it, we are taking 350 a month from your SSI benefits to help offset the people that don’t make what you do.
Somehow I do not feel better about not being able to stay with my family Dr. unless I pay a 8,000 deductible.


28 posted on 12/27/2013 3:26:43 AM PST by primatreat ("I suffer too" .My Obamacare medical plan is being taken out of MY SSI check without my permission..)
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To: primatreat

“I retired at 62 and began to draw SSI. My latest SSI check was 1770.00.”

I don’t think you really meant SSI, did you — I think you meant regular social security, since it sounds like you worked all your life and paid into it.

SSI is for people who are older and are below the poverty level.

The point you were making that indeed, if you are still generating income, they reduce your social security checks — discouraging people to work.


29 posted on 12/27/2013 4:37:46 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Still Thinking

Yes I looked at it lately as our house is going on the market soon. Was a bit relieved.


30 posted on 12/27/2013 9:10:53 AM PST by sheana
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To: Innovative; RegulatorCountry

Thanks for acknowledging my good intent but I also happen to be correct. Read the examples in Question 11 at your link, taking into account the Section 121 exclusion. If my earlier post was unclear in some way I apologize, but this is exactly my understanding and exactly what I was attempting to convey in my comment. The only way I can see that my comment could conceivably have been misinterpreted is for taxpayers with significant investment income other than from the sale of their home. But thanks for playing.


31 posted on 12/27/2013 3:09:10 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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