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The Reason We Won't Stand Up AND Against
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Posted on 12/27/2013 7:53:46 AM PST by CincyRichieRich

I have been a whiner like many here and I'm putting down my rock inside my glass house in trust that we can have a rock & flame-free discussion of why it is so hard to do anything large scale/tangible against the tide of Marxism/fascism taking over our nation and populous minds.

I hope all agree with that premise as it is hard to stop and it is fully intact as colonial west noted today.

Fear of consequences is my #1 reason for being wimpy...my family well-being, my children and their future.

IRS...NEA...EPA...DOE...HHS...DHS...all are armed with weaponry of copper and lead and legal deepest pockets...and even most voting talliers are libs.

We have AM radio hosts who don't yet band together in person and resources, and tea party rallies, a few blogs like this, an occational conservative commentator...

They have the schools, libraries, media...in general...remember no rocks...

They have the big $$$ like Buffett, Gates, Soros, and countless foundations ...all Marxist/progressive...point is it takes very deep pockets to win legal challenges and those 'conservatives' who have deep pockets usually turn out to be pansies like Trump...Koch...other faux conservatives...and the SCOTUS is blackmailed...the have no fillibuster stopping them...and cesaer-like edicts soaking the constitution in urine...all from a limp-wristed pansy foreign-like, interloping president-who may not step down in 3 yrs...

There are many reasons we all have for not yet stopping this, but one that we al know about now too is the removal of 200 or so patriots from our armed services...

Heck I don't know where this vent/whine is going but I feel better for sharing. Stick together and know you and we are not alone and if I called anyone here wimpy, etc you are not wimpy...your family knows you are not wimpy and we will prevail and God has our back so keep praying even when it seems to fall on deaf ears...He usually comes through when it looks most bleak. We can't give up no matter what.


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: dictator; tyranny
So let's discuss...am I the only one with such hesitations and fears? Am I the only one who knows my family can't survive if I am in jail?
1 posted on 12/27/2013 7:53:46 AM PST by CincyRichieRich
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To: CincyRichieRich

Prepare your family for the collapse, so you won’t have to depend on the gov’t when it all goes kablooey.

There’s not rolling this back short of total collapse,
and they will try to take advantage of it to get you dependent on them so they can control you.

Prepare yourself, your family, and build your community.


2 posted on 12/27/2013 7:56:12 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: CincyRichieRich

You are not the only one. I do not participate in online surveys that ask for an opinion of Obama. I suspect some of these surveys are info-gathering sites for the WH.


3 posted on 12/27/2013 7:59:52 AM PST by abclily
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To: CincyRichieRich

4 posted on 12/27/2013 8:02:07 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: CincyRichieRich

The problem, as I see it, is like trying to run an association
of people who don’t like to belong to associations.


5 posted on 12/27/2013 8:02:59 AM PST by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

“They” also have the infrastructure. The natural reflex of all government bureaucracy is to be pro-government. With Marxism, that inclination is decoupled from patriotism, distinguishing it from old bureaucratic states (pre-20th century Europe, old Russia, etc.) We also are disinclined to destroy standing institutions, for the reasons you state.

It is going to have to get considerably worse before there is a reflexive response. The longer it takes, the worst it will be, and the end result might not be better.


6 posted on 12/27/2013 8:04:15 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

I’m not sure I understand what you mean by “the reason we won’t stand up and against”. Most here do stand up & against. The problem I have with my family is that they refuse to acknowledge the reality that the communists have infiltrated both parties to a degree that we are losing our country. Obama is a Marxist true-believer. But he repeatedly says ‘I’m not ideological’, & they just accept that. Despite his talk about equality, fairness, redistribution, etc., etc.

If you can’t get the average American, who is not as politically informed as we here, to understand the truth, we’re pretty well lost.


7 posted on 12/27/2013 8:04:51 AM PST by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: CincyRichieRich; Dr. Sivana

An excerpt from

They Thought They Were Free

The Germans, 1933-45

Milton Mayer

snip

“What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.

snip

“Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, ‘everyone’ is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You know, in France or Italy there would be slogans against the government painted on walls and fences; in Germany, outside the great cities, perhaps, there is not even this. In the university community, in your own community, you speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, ‘It’s not so bad’ or ‘You’re seeing things’ or ‘You’re an alarmist.’

snip

http://www.press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html


8 posted on 12/27/2013 8:10:31 AM PST by Zeneta
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To: CincyRichieRich

It’s like being a Christian. You become one knowing you may be a martyr or possibly so, at least in this era.

This year we conservatives will be more officially a political third wheel. Not really Republican and unable after all to muster the financial war chest to work inside and change the R. Party.

I foresee an odd couple union with Libertarians if there is ever to develop a Third Party that is close to viable. I am not saying I recommend it, but they are better organized at least during the primaries and at the state/national conventions, worked as a unit, are attractive to the young adult voters, and unafraid to get messy at the Rules Committee meeting.

Conservative numbers are stagnant, with mostly the religious Right together with the solely fiscal conservatives. We have not grown our numbers and we will not let someone like Cruz, as an example, move to the center far enough to expand voters beyond the base.

Conservatives won’t play ball.

Tax revolt as in a true Tea Party action is the only broad thing the country, historically, has can done that cuts the spigot off in DC and cramps their style.

Thanks, very much, for posting.


9 posted on 12/27/2013 8:17:40 AM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: MrB; CincyRichieRich; RKBA Democrat; MeganC
See my tagline for what I have been doing.

I fear we will be returning to the Tribal Society before this is over.

A linked family of families.

When the walls come tumbling down and you loose everything you have, you will always have family and your family always has tribe.

10 posted on 12/27/2013 8:18:05 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: CincyRichieRich

I’ve said since the early 90’s that I feel like a jew in early 30’s Germany.

And to carry that paradigm through, what did the smart Jews in Germany do? They left. I believe western civilization is the “spiritual babylon” of Revelation. I left it in the spirit of Revelation 18:4. I bought my small farm in central KY in 2008 (two weeks before obama was elected. The timing is not coincidental) and moved there from my home of 45 years, Seattle, in 2011. We also dumped television in 1997.

I got out of spiritual Babylon as best as I could.


11 posted on 12/27/2013 8:20:30 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: MrB

And if you want to get a taste of our future, watch Dr. Zivago.


12 posted on 12/27/2013 8:21:19 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

And some of the Jews thought they’d be ok, because Hitler was only going to go after the “bad” Jews.


13 posted on 12/27/2013 8:21:23 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: cuban leaf

Things would be very different if, once the word got out, people with nothing to lose met the looters with armed, organized, ambushing force.


14 posted on 12/27/2013 8:23:10 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: CincyRichieRich

The down and dirty fundamental bottom line is that conservatives are not smart enough, period. Yes, not smart enough, particularly regarding the social effects of technology, namely, electronic technology. Start with Marshal McLuhan’s seminal book “Understanding Media, the Extensions of Man”. Then Google Antonio Gramsci followed up by a close study of these two web sites:

www.ecofascism.com
http://deepgreenresistance.org/en/who-we-are/about-dgr

And then we can always use a little work on our sense of empathy and try to learn what it meant to be a REPUBLICAN in 1856.

The left will try for a coup before Obama is out of office. They are desperate and aware that their own insanity will sink them. Their Global Warming delusion was their frontal assault and it is bogged. But we really need to target the mind set that enables them and it’s not what you think. www.ecofascism.com. Read it and try to learn a new trick about who controls what on this planet.


15 posted on 12/27/2013 8:23:13 AM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: dfwgator

And some of the Jews thought they’d be ok, because Hitler was only going to go after the “bad” Jews.


Yep. Hitler didn’t start by gassing millions. That came later. People forget that there were many in the US that thought he was great. That he was finally getting Germany back on its feet after the loss in the Great War and the impacts of the depression.


16 posted on 12/27/2013 8:24:06 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

Joe Kennedy thought Hitler was the ‘bees knees’.


17 posted on 12/27/2013 8:25:07 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: CincyRichieRich

Things are unfolding pretty much the way they were planned, but don’t pay attention to me, I’m a wacko conspiracy theorist, and considered foolish by many here on FR.


18 posted on 12/27/2013 8:25:37 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: MrB

Things would be very different if, once the word got out, people with nothing to lose met the looters with armed, organized, ambushing force.


That’s what I mean by “the hordes from the cities have to get through 80 miles of people like me to get to me.” ;-)


19 posted on 12/27/2013 8:25:56 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: CincyRichieRich

This is a good thread to post this link again:

http://www.grandpappy.info/honehour.htm

The One Hour Meltdown


20 posted on 12/27/2013 8:26:39 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: cuban leaf

You referenced Dr Zhivago...

The “looters” I was referring to come under color of authority.


21 posted on 12/27/2013 8:26:46 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Remember the squatters living in his house? They were given authority to loot by the new government.


22 posted on 12/27/2013 8:30:02 AM PST by cuban leaf
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bookmark


23 posted on 12/27/2013 8:30:45 AM PST by freds6girlies (many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Mt. 19:30. R.I.P. G & J)
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To: cuban leaf

But if they were met by an ambush... say, an IED at the front door, followed by strategically placed people with firearms...

the next people who were “authorized” might choose not to.


24 posted on 12/27/2013 8:31:44 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

You must kill them all and hide the bodies. It’s imperative, actually.


25 posted on 12/27/2013 8:36:55 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: MrB

You must kill them all and hide the bodies. It’s imperative, actually.

However, I don’t think that is the way it will go down. I don’t think it will be lawless hordes. I think it will be more like the first ten minutes of Inglorious Basterds.


26 posted on 12/27/2013 8:37:42 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: dfwgator

So did Henry Ford and Charles Lindburgh.


27 posted on 12/27/2013 8:48:48 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: CincyRichieRich
"The common and continual mischief of the spirit of Party is sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it." G. Washington

"Tyranny is always better organized than freedom...the strength and power of despotism consists wholly in the fear of resistance." -- Thomas Paine

"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.." --Samuel Adams

My reason for leading with these 3 quotations will become clear as you watch the maddening 20+minute video at the link below.  It will most likely cause you to recoil and shout "bulls**t", "that CAN'T be true", "these guys are NUTS," "I LOVED Bush. Why woulld he have been involved in this stuff," etc., etc...  The answer to that last one is simple: He -- as have been so, so many of the others -- was either BORN into it, tapped later in life to become part of it, the scam pays VERY, VERY well (both emotionally and monetarily) and they with to continue breathing!  Think JFK for that last one.

Then you will ask the same question I ask myself when more of this information pops up: How is it that guys like Jones and others are not "taken out" for trying to blow the lid off this -- and there's no other word that works here -- conspiracy?  Your reaction to this information is a micro expression of why it continues:  You either don't BELIEVE it (cognitive dissonance) and/or think to yourself that it's so BIG that there's no way any sort of critical mass could be assembled to do anything about it so WHY BOTHER even thinking about it further.

Then there's the "conspiracy's" understanding that their control of the mass media prevents any but a small fraction of the people around you from even HEARING any of this.

Add to that the growing numbers of dumbed down suckers at the government teat and you have your answer.  We have allowed the main actors in this treacherous, treasonous theater to bring the process to the level where they really don't CARE if we know about it as we will do nothing substantive to stop them.

If you remember the film "The Manchurian Candidate" you now know where we are.  Except this time OUR "candidate" came to us from Chicago (but you can insert a number of place names here).  The bad news is that given our current trend, there's less and less difference between Manchuria and Chicago every day.

The REALLY BAD news is that if something isn't done to arrest that process, it is spreading to the entire nation.

Might want to start preparing an answer to a question your kids and grandkids will ask you: What was freedom like?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mITcRDr2Sk

28 posted on 12/27/2013 9:24:44 AM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: MrB

Things would be very different if, once the word got out, people with nothing to lose met the looters with armed, organized, ambushing force.


Word is out, check Connecticut’s (Christystan’s) gun grabbing antics this day.....


29 posted on 12/27/2013 9:43:06 AM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Case back hoe for sale or trade for diesel wood chipper....Enforce the Bill of Rights. It's the Law!)
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To: cuban leaf
I’ve said since the early 90’s that I feel like a jew in early 30’s Germany.

As long as you're comfortable with the fact that Obama and his supporters feel the same about Jews as their socialist predecessors in 1933 Germany did, I'll proudly stand beside you. The difference is that, at least for now, we have the Second Amendment.

30 posted on 12/27/2013 9:46:06 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: hosepipe
actually, we need a second party.
31 posted on 12/27/2013 9:46:47 AM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: CincyRichieRich

The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing

nuff said


32 posted on 12/27/2013 10:06:11 AM PST by RoadieFan
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To: Repeal The 17th

” people who don’t like to belong to associations.”

That’s me. I wasn’t aware that there were many people like me. I hate joining any kind of association because the people always let me down.

I just don’t like any group speaking for me. My psychologist nephew says that it is an anti authority complex. I say that it is more of a lack of trust in authority at any level.


33 posted on 12/27/2013 11:03:51 AM PST by Eva
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To: CincyRichieRich

“They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” Benjamin Franklin

It is your kind of fear that the regime (as does every regime since the beginning of history)relies on to impose its will on you. Without that fear, they are nothing.


34 posted on 12/27/2013 11:31:29 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: CincyRichieRich

“Am I the only one who knows my family can’t survive if I am in jail?”

No. But also ask yourself: how well will your family survive in a gulag?

God, family, tribe. Those are the things that will matter.


35 posted on 12/27/2013 12:34:08 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

“Am I the only one who knows my family can’t survive if I am in jail?”

No. But also ask yourself: how well will your family survive in a gulag?

God, family, tribe. Those are the things that will matter.


Truly great feedback from everyone; nice to know I’m not alone.

RKBA Democrat, I know you’re in the same boat...easier said than done. We are one.


36 posted on 12/27/2013 2:17:37 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Pajama-boy-in-chief's beatings continue until morale improves.)
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To: CincyRichieRich

These are difficult times. And we all want to do something to fix the problems that we face. But remember that in the story, the tortoise wins the race. You should want to be here to finish the race.

While its not a popular opinion to hold at FR, I’m slowly coming to the conclusion that electoral politics is less important than deciding whether I grow carrots or beets in my garden this year. My garden will feed me and my family. When did a politician ever do that?


37 posted on 12/27/2013 3:44:16 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

While its not a popular opinion to hold at FR, I’m slowly coming to the conclusion that electoral politics is less important than deciding whether I grow carrots or beets in my garden this year. My garden will feed me and my family. When did a politician ever do that?


Can’t disagree...I split hairs between types of tomatoes and peppers, too. Not tackled carrots yet. Yes, I know this was metaphorical and rhetorical...but I agree.


38 posted on 12/27/2013 3:50:31 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (Pajama-boy-in-chief's beatings continue until morale improves.)
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