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State trooper can't have gun while off duty due to mental health record, Pa. court rules
Pennlive ^ | December 26, 2013 | Matt Miller

Posted on 12/27/2013 3:21:24 PM PST by moonshinner_09

Pennsylvania State Trooper Michael L. Keyes is in an odd situation.

When on duty, he can carry a gun.

Yet while off duty, he is barred by law from possessing any firearms, because seven years ago he suffered from deep depression, repeatedly tried to kill himself by taking drugs and was involuntarily committed for mental health treatment.

Keyes' latest attempt to be allowed to have a gun all the time was rejected this week by the state Superior Court.

That court upheld an earlier ruling by Perry County Senior Judge Keith B. Quigley that Keyes' involuntary mental health commitment constitutes an unsurmountable legal barrier to his ability to possess a gun while off duty.

An attempt to reach Keyes' attorney, Joshua Prince, for comment on the case wasn't successful Thursday. Keyes has been involved in legal battles ever since completing his mental health treatment. He also had to fight to be reinstated to the state police.

He was serving as a state trooper in Newport, when he was placed on temporary leave and ordered into mental health treatment in 2006. He finished treatment in less than a year and had to battle to get his job back, even after his doctor cleared him to go back to work.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; pa
This has to be the best joke of the year..Sounds like something right out of Saturday Night Live.
1 posted on 12/27/2013 3:21:24 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....hahahaha. this is priceless


2 posted on 12/27/2013 3:24:36 PM PST by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: moonshinner_09
He needs to turn his badge in for a shovel.

/johnny

3 posted on 12/27/2013 3:25:26 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: P.O.E.; lightman

Ping to Pa List...


4 posted on 12/27/2013 3:26:29 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: moonshinner_09

He only tried to kill himself, so maybe the next dog he meets will survive.


5 posted on 12/27/2013 3:28:19 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: moonshinner_09

Trooper Keyes’ service in the State Police is not likely to end well.


6 posted on 12/27/2013 3:29:04 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: moonshinner_09
I cannot believe how incredibly stupid that is. I mean Dehydrated stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid, so stupid it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. It is trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. It emits more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know.

but then again...

7 posted on 12/27/2013 3:29:31 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: null and void; Alaska Wolf

Too bad we can’t get wolfie’s take on this...


8 posted on 12/27/2013 3:30:57 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Mmmmm K....

Either he is still a threat to himself and should be barred from any firearn or he has figured out how to “deal” more effectively and his rights should be fully restored.


9 posted on 12/27/2013 3:32:24 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: moonshinner_09

Barney Fife him.


10 posted on 12/27/2013 3:34:44 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: moonshinner_09
Uniforms cure Schizophrenia
11 posted on 12/27/2013 3:35:33 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: Chode

Thatz jus Stoopit...


12 posted on 12/27/2013 3:36:16 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: moonshinner_09

Cop Unions. Right.


13 posted on 12/27/2013 3:37:47 PM PST by Autonomous User (Pain Fades. Chicks Dig Scars. Glory, lasts forever.)
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To: Bryanw92

He’s driving a school bus these days, so the dogs are safe, for now. Heh.


14 posted on 12/27/2013 3:42:00 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Vendome
100%... 8^)
15 posted on 12/27/2013 3:45:04 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: moonshinner_09

I knew a highway patrolman whose nickname was Psycho among his fellow patrolmen (who I knew), because he’d gotten out of the Marines on a psychological discharge. One day his wife left him, and he quit his job to go interstate looking for her.

I talked to the property manager that inspected the house he vacated (small town) and the bedrooms had windows nailed shut and hasps on the doors as if someone was locking occupants inside, also punch/kick holes on the walls and gunshot holes in the ceiling.

Word was the wife stole several hundred bucks from her part time job as a convenience store cashier the day she ran off. I can’t imagine a more desperate situation.


16 posted on 12/27/2013 3:49:56 PM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: Chode

17 posted on 12/27/2013 3:51:13 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: moonshinner_09

“repeatedly tried to kill himself by taking drugs ....”

Is he allowed to have (legal) drugs? Is he still allowed to go to the roof of buildings? Is he allowed to walk across high bridges? Is he ... well, you get the idea.

BTW,repeated suicide attempts sound more like a cry for help, than a serious effort at killing yourself.


18 posted on 12/27/2013 3:51:39 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: smokingfrog

LOL!


19 posted on 12/27/2013 3:51:46 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Vendome

Factor in that most police “social work” these days is done with a taser.

And/Or the officer on the beat calls in the SWAT team.

Presumably the steroids have made none of the SWAT team members depressed or bipolar. So they are OK with their full-auto weapons, armored personnel carriers, RPG’s...

;-)


20 posted on 12/27/2013 3:54:03 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: carriage_hill
i truly wish i wrote it, but... i ripped it from a much larger rant for my own purposes 8^)
21 posted on 12/27/2013 3:54:36 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: moonshinner_09

He’s sane enough when he’s a cop, but too crazy when he’s off-duty.

These days, that sounds backward for some of them.


22 posted on 12/27/2013 4:05:41 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: smokingfrog
Aw gee, Andy, there's 5 more holes in it...


23 posted on 12/27/2013 4:16:10 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Chode

You fooled the judges panel; you get to keep it! LOL.


24 posted on 12/27/2013 4:16:57 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Makes perfect sense. He’s only nuts when he isn’t wearing his uniform. Makes perfect sense, doesn’t it?


25 posted on 12/27/2013 4:22:31 PM PST by davisfh
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To: moonshinner_09

I think the law and the judges are crazier than the cop.

Oh the law suits that are going to fly like geese if he has problems on the job with his gun.

RECALL, anyone?


26 posted on 12/27/2013 4:27:10 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: moonshinner_09

This is bull. Many cops lost their jobs when the Lautenberg Amendment was passed in 1996 that made anyone who was ever found guilty of misdemeanor domestic violence a prohibited person.

Prohibited means prohibited. There is no exception for “on the job.”


27 posted on 12/27/2013 4:42:38 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: moonshinner_09

Say, what?!?


28 posted on 12/27/2013 4:44:16 PM PST by bgill
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To: moonshinner_09

The Onion?


29 posted on 12/27/2013 4:49:02 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: moonshinner_09
NJ State Trooper, Scott Graham, Commits Suicide on the GSP
30 posted on 12/27/2013 4:52:31 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Are we all Alice in Wonderland?


31 posted on 12/27/2013 5:08:26 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: moonshinner_09

What could possibly go wrong?


32 posted on 12/27/2013 5:11:33 PM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Stories like this do not surprise me anymore.
Sad...


33 posted on 12/27/2013 5:28:28 PM PST by mowowie
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To: moonshinner_09

Not too crazy!, just crazy enough to be a cop.


34 posted on 12/27/2013 5:31:48 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Chode

Well if you disregard all of the morons voting obamaramadingdong in for a second term, I agree with you.


35 posted on 12/27/2013 5:33:55 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: bunkerhill7
Uniforms cure Schizophrenia

Perfect response.

Frankly, it makes me believe that the judge that ruled this way is far more mentally ill than the cop.

36 posted on 12/27/2013 5:37:15 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Sadly, there are no shovel ready jobs.


37 posted on 12/27/2013 7:17:18 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done!s)
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To: Yo-Yo

“on the job.”

As a member of the 2A militia, I am always on the job.

Should cancel my ‘mental’ status from being a gun owner, right?


38 posted on 12/27/2013 7:20:51 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

Yeah, I’m sure it would just be more of his usual liberal bent cop slurpin’ idiocy. The poor wolfie-ette kid was certifiable.


39 posted on 12/27/2013 8:27:37 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: carriage_hill
then i thank you...
40 posted on 12/27/2013 8:31:40 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Mastador1
and THAT, is a tall order indeed...
41 posted on 12/27/2013 8:43:28 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: carriage_hill; fatima; Fresh Wind; st.eqed; xsmommy; House Atreides; Nowhere Man; ...
PA Ping!

If you see posts of interest to Pennsylvanians, please ping me.

Thanks!

Thanks carriage_hill for the heads up

IMHO - You can't write detailed rules about mental health issues - too bad we've replaced common sense and judgment with binders full of legalese.

42 posted on 12/29/2013 4:52:12 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Chode

Good one!


43 posted on 12/30/2013 11:16:12 AM PST by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: Nowhere Man
somebody was sure wound up when they wrote that i'll tell ya... 8^)
44 posted on 12/30/2013 2:59:51 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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