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Fed-Up Veteran Tells Paul Ryan What He Thinks of ‘Bipartisan’ Budget Deal
The Blaze ^ | Dec. 26, 2013 | Jason Howerton

Posted on 12/27/2013 9:39:41 PM PST by LeoWindhorse

Chuck Wooten, a military veteran, was already ticked off about Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) and Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) pushing through the “bipartisan” budget deal, which includes cuts to veterans’ retirement benefits. So when he got a fundraising email from Ryan’s office asking for money, he decided to really let the Wisconsin congressman know how he feels.The scathing open letter, posted on Facebook last week, is going viral — and you only have to read the first few sentences to know why.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: budgetcuts; paulryan; veterans
" The liberal Democrats are an enemy to the American people and our Nation. "

Amen

1 posted on 12/27/2013 9:39:41 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: LeoWindhorse

What are the cuts to the vets?


2 posted on 12/27/2013 9:40:39 PM PST by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: LeoWindhorse

God-help-us bump


3 posted on 12/27/2013 9:42:05 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: LeoWindhorse

What are the cuts to the vets?


4 posted on 12/27/2013 9:45:09 PM PST by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: LeoWindhorse

Remember ‘the Ryan plan’ ?


5 posted on 12/27/2013 9:56:09 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: ReaganÃœberAlles

6 billion over 10 years. Reduced COLA. Meanwhile.the Rats are looking at extending unemployment benefits to certain people for 1 year at a cost of 26 billion. I hate our pathetic government who has no respect for those who gave some and some who gave all.


6 posted on 12/27/2013 9:57:33 PM PST by vpintheak (Thankful to be God blessed & chosen!)
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To: LeoWindhorse; All

I’m not clear if this is past or future vets.


7 posted on 12/27/2013 9:59:52 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: LeoWindhorse

Ryan is a sellout punk!


8 posted on 12/27/2013 10:37:45 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

we almost had him for VP ....What can be done to cause the Republican Party to find good , electable candidates ? America needs a hero ! Not another fricken lawyer .... Never again .


9 posted on 12/27/2013 10:51:19 PM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: fortheDeclaration
Ryan is a sellout punk!

Yeah right! And the democrats are all for liberty, capitalism and will allow you to keep what you earn! /sarc

10 posted on 12/27/2013 10:58:08 PM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: LeoWindhorse; All

I agree that many items come to mind that should have been cut first.
However? The country IS broke and cuts must be made!


11 posted on 12/27/2013 10:58:35 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: entropy12

Ryan created a ‘budget’ that the Democrats loved-what does that tell you?


12 posted on 12/27/2013 11:03:00 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Ryan knows that Obamacare is going to hurt dRats in 2014.
Ryan has seen what government shutdown did to republicans a few months back.
Ryan’s deal is basically a neutral deal. It cancels government shutdown.
It is a strategy to cause no harm until 2014 elections.

It may just work. Trying to force a better deal would automatically result in a shutdown. The dRats currently have the veto power. repubs have no power to pass a deal they desire. Another gov’t shutdown will hurt repubs badly in 2014.

Until GOP wins the White House, no better deals are possible. That is the reality.


13 posted on 12/27/2013 11:36:14 PM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: Kansas58

You are 100% correct in that cuts must be made.

However repubs can not override president Zero’s veto.
Not enough votes in senate to do that. The Rats will never go along with cuts because it hurts their base of freeloaders.

Best strategy right now is to not do anything to stop the Rats while they are imploding on Obamacare.

First we have to win elections. Only then a successful fight for our agenda is possible. The cart has to stay behind the horse.


14 posted on 12/27/2013 11:41:48 PM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: entropy12

Sad, but true.


15 posted on 12/27/2013 11:52:32 PM PST by TheTopRead
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To: entropy12
No, that isn't reality, that is surrender, the very thing the TeaParty is opposed to.

The shutdown didn't hurt the GOP, that is simply MSM progaganda.

What hurts the GOP is doing 'business as usual', which Ryan is doing.

It isn't a 'neutral deal' it increases the Gov't debt by 2 trillion dollars!

16 posted on 12/28/2013 12:04:54 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: entropy12; fortheDeclaration
The reality is the world's once most deliberative body, the democrat dominated Senate of the United States, is Obama’s rubber stamp.

The reality is our esteemed GOP House quakes at the thought of media criticism, and has granted Obama both pigmentation immunity from his crimes, and de facto control of appropriations.

Conservatives have been waiting for another superman since the departure of Ronaldus Magnus in 1988.

National elections have not and will not lead to restoration of freedom.

Article V.

17 posted on 12/28/2013 2:39:41 AM PST by Jacquerie (To restore the 9th & 10th Amendments, repeal the 17th.)
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To: entropy12
First we have to win elections

The loss is worse with fake-conservative backstabbers we have now. They'd rather lose elections than cede power to conservatives. If they don't cede power to constitutional conservatives, we're no worse off losing and could be a unified opposition without them.

18 posted on 12/28/2013 3:15:02 AM PST by grania
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To: LeoWindhorse

The liberal Democrats are an enemy to the American people and our Nation. “

(Which ones are those? RINO ryan)


19 posted on 12/28/2013 3:34:32 AM PST by South Dakota (shut up and build a bakken pipe line)
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To: entropy12

Sounds exactly like karl rove... I disagree with you... you still believe in the republican party... too many of us have seen the light. I may vote for Conservative republicans but the party is dead to me because I do not trust them and the leadership has proven themselves as progressive whores out for their own power and wealth. ryan is a progressive and a statist. I choose to believe my own eyes and ears. I trust no one any longer but GOD and HIS SON.


20 posted on 12/28/2013 3:50:58 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This deal cancels the Sequester cuts and grows the deficit by 800 billion this year... 1.14 Trillion in 2015 and 1.2 Trillion in 2016. Some budget... FULL STEAM AHEAD FOR THE USS KARL MARX!


21 posted on 12/28/2013 3:53:02 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Oh... and obama gave all federal employees a raise and ryan cuts Military benefits... and some here think that is acceptable!


22 posted on 12/28/2013 3:55:18 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: entropy12

“It is a strategy to cause no harm until 2014 elections.”

Too bad he just lost conservatives ANY military votes that may have been counted. On the other hand, the democrats just may let military votes count in 2014.


23 posted on 12/28/2013 4:14:18 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Vet Slams Rep Paul Ryan In Open Letter Over Military Budget Cut - The Kelly File

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JsqdThlFVU


24 posted on 12/28/2013 5:05:32 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: fortheDeclaration

Most of the Republicans in Congress are sellout punks.


25 posted on 12/28/2013 6:41:27 AM PST by onedoug
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To: freeangel

If you believe the military people will put their faith in prez Zero and Hillary and their cohorts, you are having a very bad dream.


26 posted on 12/28/2013 9:47:08 AM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Show me a party which can win elections and is more conservative than the republicans, and I will jump in with both feet.

But if anything I have learned in seven decades is that never cut your ears off to spite your face. I follow coach Lombardi’s dictum, winning is not everything, it is the only thing. I do not throw out the good over the pure.


27 posted on 12/28/2013 9:51:02 AM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: grania

Please read my post #27.


28 posted on 12/28/2013 9:52:18 AM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: Jacquerie

You are right on. But how do we get there in 2014, the first national election? Wishful thinking will not get us there. Show me a realistic and practically possible alternative and I will join your brigade.


29 posted on 12/28/2013 9:55:00 AM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: entropy12
I don't think we'd be any worse off with the dems totally in control and accountable. What we have now is a whole lot of sellout backstabbers who talk the talk but are actually all about gross profits for their puppet masters.

Case in point....Obamacare. Other case in point...RINOs refuse to take the hint that constitutional conservatives are never going to buy in to the invasion of the US being legalized.

30 posted on 12/28/2013 9:58:21 AM PST by grania
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To: fortheDeclaration

That 2 Trillion dollars in additional debt comes AFTER many future elections, many new congresses, and new presidents.

As you must be well aware, every law passed can be changed if you own the White House or veto proof congress. Neither of that is in the hands of GOP in 2013.

So IMHO Ryan did the best deal which was possible. I like that there will no issues to derail the GOP until 2014 election. I also like that the unemployment benefit time limit has been brought back to historical level.


31 posted on 12/28/2013 10:00:53 AM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: grania

Oh puleez, if dems take control again with Pelosi, Zero, Hillary, Reid in full control, I am moving to Australia or New Zealand.


32 posted on 12/28/2013 10:03:38 AM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: entropy12
If the RINOs keep going the way they are now (with some constitutional conservative influence in DC) you might as well move to Australia NZ, if they'll take you, even if they get in power.

Hint...GWB even when he had control of everything got the ball rolling for Obama.

33 posted on 12/28/2013 10:26:51 AM PST by grania
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To: entropy12
Millions of us intend to replace progressive republicans in the upcoming primaries. If that fails, then it will be third party time. I will not donate a cent to the republican party unless and until they change. I have worked my butt off for that party and over the many years that I have been active. I have donated just under $180,000 in cash and other donations since the 70's... and I have manned phone banks and walked the neighborhoods. I will not do that again. I also support only conservative candidates directly these days.

I am no longer a republican and I will never again fall for your argument. They (their leadership and behind the scenes controllers) hate me and all voters like me. We must purge the party of these traitorous corporatist/statist socialists or we will go our separate way and your party will never win another national election.

LLS

34 posted on 12/28/2013 10:30:28 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: entropy12
Continued confidence in restoring our freedoms via elections is an example of Einstein's dictum regarding insanity. That isn't to say we shouldn't vote. It is necessary but insufficient. To pretend voting alone can reverse our slide into tyranny is fantasy.

Are you aware of the nascent Article V state amendment convention movement, the constitutional end run around our masters?

35 posted on 12/28/2013 10:53:45 AM PST by Jacquerie (To restore the 9th & 10th Amendments, repeal the 17th.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I see nothing wrong with your thoughts of replacing liberal republicans in primaries. I do exactly the same when given the opportunity.

Then in general, I usually hold my nose and vote against the even much more liberal democrat who will be nothing but a rubber stamp for the community organizer from south side of Chicago.


36 posted on 12/28/2013 11:35:53 AM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: Jacquerie

So how is it better for achieving freedom when some voters stayed home and thereby helped the community organizer from south side of Chicago win re-election?

Obamacare has reduced my freedoms more than any legislation in many decades. My premiums jumped $1800 per year which will all come out of my discretionary spending. That increase is far greater than anything in last 40 years.


37 posted on 12/28/2013 11:39:52 AM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: grania

GWB was a big disappointment. I am looking forward to a Ted Cruz, Rand Paul or Mike Lee type president who will not go along to get along.


38 posted on 12/28/2013 11:42:00 AM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: entropy12

Ouch... I understand your dilemma.


39 posted on 12/28/2013 11:43:24 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Again, let me emphasize my point...voting for 3rd party at the present time will change NOTHING, ZERO, NADA.

Just ask Perot and all the other 3rd party losers what power they have to change anything.

Our system is based on winning elections. When you lose elections, you have no power to change any laws. Just ask Akin, Mourdock, Buck, O’Donnell, Angle etc what laws have they changed to increase our freedoms.

Follow coach Lombardi...winning is the ONLY thing.


40 posted on 12/28/2013 11:47:14 AM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: entropy12

Save the effort... I am too experienced to buy into that any longer. I will only vote for Conservatives for the rest of my life.

LLS


41 posted on 12/28/2013 12:09:32 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: onedoug

That is true.


42 posted on 12/28/2013 1:31:30 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: LibLieSlayer
Yes, I don't know why Ryan picked out the veterans, of all people, to make an issue out of.

How about going after those on welfare?

43 posted on 12/28/2013 1:35:44 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: entropy12

there will be no issue to derail the GOP until 2014?

let Ryan get his way on amnesty and the republicans will lose the house and the senate....enjoy that disaster


44 posted on 12/28/2013 1:41:13 PM PST by thestob (Paul Ryan is determined to destroy this country)
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To: thestob

Agreed, amnesty is not a winning issue for republicans running in 2014. But in 2016 presidential election year, it could be a losing issue for candidates opposed to any amnesty. My reasons are it will energize democrat voters and many independents and a few republicans who personally know some illegals and favor granting them legal status.

Don’t get me wrong on personal level. I am personally 100% for following laws and no amnesty to those who break it.


45 posted on 12/28/2013 1:48:01 PM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: entropy12
Ryan has seen what government shutdown did to republicans a few months back.

Then he's blind...it did nothing.

46 posted on 12/28/2013 1:53:54 PM PST by Fledermaus (If we here in TN can't get rid of the worthless Lamar, it's over.)
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To: fortheDeclaration

ryan is a progressive and that is the reason that romney picked him... he is not now nor has he ever been one of us.


47 posted on 12/28/2013 2:27:46 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Fledermaus

Not according to polls I saw. may be you saw different polls or you do not believe polls.


48 posted on 12/28/2013 2:39:17 PM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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