Skip to comments.Law School Grad Forced Into Retail Job Blogs The Loss Of His 'Last Shred Of Dignity'
Posted on 12/28/2013 4:49:57 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
As the New Year looms, many law graduates with heavy debt have yet to find work as attorneys including the author of the self-deprecating new blog "Law Grad Working Retail."
The blog's anonymous author graduated from a law school that was in the top 50 ranked by U.S. News and World Report. He was on law review and even got a summer position at a firm after his second year. He didn't get a job offer though.
This grad still hasn't found legal work and took a job selling cologne just before the holidays to make ends meet. Now he says he's "liveblogging the loss of my last shred of dignity." His blog is both funny and heartbreaking.
The funny parts often involve his coworkers assuming he can answer every law-related question they have. His coworker Shaina grills him after it's discovered that another coworker named Julian is apparently "robbing the stock room blind." Here's the exchange:
"LawGrad, you a lawyer," Shaina began, "can Julian sue the store?"
"You know, accusing him of stealing because hes Mexican."
"But he was stealing."
"So he cant sue?"
Shaina also asks random questions like, "Is it illegal for a hospital to turn you away at the emergency room?" LawGrad tries to tell her he's not actually a lawyer, but she doesn't seem to get it and asks him at least three times what kind of law he practices.
"I told her cologne selling law," he writes.....
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I thought they surgically removed that in law school anyway
It was the worst thing that ever happened!
It doesn't say that he passed the bar exam. Perhaps that's part of his problem?
Get a clue - we don’t need no more danged lawyers!!!
Anyone who thinks working retail removes his dignity doesn’t deserve a higher-paying job, and I would not have hired him for a college-based position. My three highest priorities in hiring were a work ethic, mathematical ability, and character. Anyone who thought custodial work, retail, waiting tables, construction, or any other “menial” position lacked dignity would not get hired.
Next to plumbers, attorneys probably make up the largest section in the Yellow Pages........
This grad still hasn’t found legal work and took a job selling cologne.
Problem with perception for him selling cologne is legal. At least he’s working and he deserves applause for that. A lot of people in the good old days (normal/ /prosperous times) took starter jobs beneath? there background/ education.
It used to be they would separate the academically inclined from the academically weak in sixth grade. Then they decided that everyone needs a complete elementary education, then a complete high school education, then a complete college education. Now it seems everyone needs a complete professional school education.
The world needs cologne sales people too.
It’s possible. However, it is also true that law schools have turned into largely diploma mills that have churned out law students well beyond what can be absorbed into society.
I think there is a larger need for plumbers than lawyers in people’s daily life. Afterall, you don’t get divorced, need a will, buy property, get arrested, or have a lawsuit everyday.
He should move to Chicago and become a community organizer.
Yes, there’s definitely a problem of oversupply.
There was a time when the legal profession was largely recession-proof. Not anymore. Law firms in my neck of the woods aren’t hiring. Many have downsized. And being on the law review doesn’t guarantee a job as it once did. If you aren’t exceptional, you can forget about being hired.
But plumbers have more value.
It’s even worse for paralegals/legal assistants. Because of the economy, a lot of lawyers just do their own work.
I graduated law school in 1978. I had a husband and a two year old. My grades were okay but not spectacular. I wasn’t on law review but had some good experience in a legal clinic. So I didn’t get picked up by the big firms. boohoo. I did go to work for Legal Aid. It was interesting and I had to learn on my feet. I then had another kid and took off for a year. I then set up my own practice, working in an office with other lawyers. And I advertised at a time when it was looked down on. So for more than 30 years I’ve worked for myself. It’s paying the estimated taxes that made me a conservative. That and being on the front lines of the culture. A scary place to be. So I don’t have any sympathy for these new grads. Get out and learn how to practice law because they don’t teach that in law school and then find other lawyers to mentor you and then start helping people. Get paid if possible but if not, do it anyway.
Check the YP and you will find that lawyers out number doctors. Of course, that has no bearing on the filing of frivolous medical malpractice suits. Nope, not at all....
No wonder the guy can't find a job as a lawyer.
A lawyer is standing in a long line at the box office. Suddenly, he feels a pair of hands kneading his shoulders, back, and neck. The lawyer turns around. "What the hell do you think you're doing?" "I'm a chiropractor, and I'm just keeping in practice while I'm waiting in line." "Well, I'm a lawyer, but you don't see me screwing the guy in front of me, do you?"
What happens when you give Viagra to lawyers? They grow taller!
I would tell him the same thing I have told other college graduates having trouble getting their first job after college: Do some volunteer work for an charitable organization you believe in. You make contacts, have something to put on your resume, and are helping people in need all at the same time. There are people in need of help who have been caught in the bottomless tar pit called our legal system.
>>. Its paying the estimated taxes that made me a conservative.
There is very little that changes people’s attitudes more about taxation than having to write quarterly estimated tax payments and pay self-employment tax.
I would love to end payroll withholding and make everyone have to go through this process.
Excuse me Mr. Lawyer, but didn’t you know there’s an OVERCAPACITY of lawyers in this country? We only have 70% of all the lawyers on the planet trying to earn a living here. Why didn’t you go to a trade school and find real job skills? Oh, I know, getting your hands dirty from manual labor gives you an anxiety attack and causes you to hyperventilate. What a wuss.
And secretaries. I was a legal secretary till I became sick in 2008. I wanted to go back to work, but the jobs aren’t there. My last employer had said it would take me back, but by the time I was ready to return, everything had changed. The firm no longer has a secretary for 1 or 2 attorneys. Now it has one secretary for a whole department of maybe 6 or more attorneys. Thanks to all those electronic devices, there really isn’t enough work for that many secretaries.
If they actually had to make a living, they'd want there to be tariffs to protect US manufacturing, they'd want the invaders sent home, they'd avoid foreign merchandise that undermines our economy. They'd demand that the laws and regulations that make it near impossible to start and grow a small business were overturned.
They're the segment of the population that should be demanding change and a return to constitutional conservative values. Instead they want handouts and once they get on Medicare they'll be tied forever to upper level wellfare. We are so over as a nation.
I purchased a book from Nolo Press (a legal publisher) back in the 1990s, which was filled with vignettes of people who had gotten a law degree and not practicing law.
Back then, law schools churned out graduates at a far higher rate than the job market for lawyers could support. Apparently, this is still the case.
Anyone going to college should do some research into their chosen career field first; some majors have far more graduates than job opportunities. If they don’t do that kind of research, they have no business complaining that they can’t find a job in their field.
He may have lost his pride. But now has a chance at earning dignity through hard work.
” He didn’t get a job offer though.”
This truth would have reverberated with me. A real clanger.
There are fewer physicians in the US per person than in most OECD countries. In 2010, the U.S. had 2.4 practicing physicians per 1,000 people. The OECD average was 3.1. Obamacare or not, there won’t be a lot of doctors (and nurses) who need to sell cologne to pay the rent. (But that pathway requires a lot more effort and isn’t as pleasant as billing $350/hr for surfing the net.)
Hopey Changy stuff
It used to be there were factories to send those less academically inclined.
Now they would have to go to China.
From your keyboard to the Lord’s ears.
Perhaps this is a sign the market for lawyers has reached saturation and can not support any new comers. Now we need to retrain these younger minds in the realities and truths of Conservatism so when they do find jobs as lawyers they take over the socialist cabal who run The Bars and their collective lobbying groups in DC.
Regards and Have a Blessed Happy New Year.
Why am I not shocked that this pathetic person has a blog.
Plumbers get paid to move the turds, lawyers get paid to stir the turds — that’s why plumbers have more value.
He needs to get married and have a kid. That job will be the thing that elevates his dignity....
Should the word section not read suction when it comes to the attorney suction in the yellow pages?
Too many lawyers try to practice law. Too many engineers work as engineers. Too many accountants work as accountants. These three professionals can often find bigger bucks doing things like sales, management, etc.
If you take greed out of the equation for becoming a lawyer there is unlimited opportunity to serve the community as a legal proffessional and make a decent living.
they do but it sure seems like 90% of the jobs created now no longer lead to a middle class existence.
I agree. I would never become a lawyer, unless it was to serve to make a community better.
Thank you! My feelings exactly! I worked everything from construction to pizza delivery befor I graduated from law school and passed the bar, and I tell my kids I’d do ANY honest work that put food on our table. The entitled arrogance of the last couple of generations is pathetic.
Agreed. I joined the Air Force 3 weeks after the bar results came out and got six years of invaluable experience while serving my country, got out to work for the big firms, hated it, have been in practice with my dad for 20 years. Nobody owes me nuthin’.
The average age for a welder now is almost 60.
We’ve got an entire generation of people that don’t want to WORK. SO MANY OF THEM SHOULDN’T EVEN BE IN COLLEGE.
We’ve got all these illegals over here because so many of the “working age” people are wasting 4-6 years on a political science degree instead of doing something society needs.
We need to quit funding college grants and loans that produce more lawyers and political science degrees. Colleges and universities are milking the taxpayer.
He took a risk to go to law school. It didn’t work out. Too bad. He might should take a look at going to a trade school now. Something that will prepare him so that he can get a real job.
We sure have a bunch of Nelsons on Freep. You know the kid from the Simpsons always going “Ha Ha’ at others misfortunes.
We have more people and not enough jobs. What someone did 20 years ago to get by and eventually thrive doesn’t always cut it any longer. I know i got a job interning in a business i had no background for 35 years ago. I’m still doing the same thing. Today only someone with a degree in business can get that intern position. At a larger firm its a masters or don’t apply.
Instead of mocking people and immediately saying oh they must be a liberal either outright or by inference we’d be better served recognizing the game has changed and what worked in the past is no longer applicable, at least much less so.
I for one would rather discuss solutions than to stand back and mock. It’s not like conservative politicians don’t either read sites like this or have someone do it for them and gauge the temperature of the base. We can make a difference outside of the voting booth.