Skip to comments.ON CAMPUS, SHOULD YOU BE FORCED TO PAY A PRICE FOR FREE SPEECH?
Posted on 12/28/2013 4:08:25 PM PST by lowbridge
Many public universities are seeking to silence campus groups with unpopular ideas by charging heavy fees when the student group hosts events the administration deems too controversial.
And all too often, the campus groups singled out for these fees are Christian or conservative.
This is exactly what happened to a pro-life student group at the University at Buffalo. The group hosted a debate on the morality of abortion and was charged fees for campus security. But at the same time and in the same building as the pro-life debate, another student group hosted a debate on religion versus atheism, and was not required to pay for security.
The difference was that the universitys policy on student events allowed administrators to require security for controversial speech or any other reason they saw fit.
In defiance of protections in the U.S. Constitution, some schools like the University at Buffalo have seen fit to impose a price for free speech.
If universities can force student groups to pay a price for free speech, what is the constitutional guarantee of free speech worth?
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I guess Planned Parenthood would get a price break though, right?
ON CAMPUS, SHOULD YOU BE FORCED TO PAY A PRICE FOR FREE SPEECH?
Only if you are a conservative. /sarc
If the school gets Federal $$ (they all do) then yes, this is a violation of the 1st Amendment.
It is OK to charge for security but all groups must be charge the same.
I think it is the Liberty Foundation that takes cases like this?
This needs to be fought in court IMMEDIATELY!
“Free speech” to the Left — has always meant shouting down opposing viewpoints.
Is University of Buffalo a public or private venue?
If it is public this appears to be an unconstitutional act of censorship.
If it is private I believe they can do whatever they want.
Somehow I’ll bet the answer to my question isn’t clear... ;)
Give them a “Tommy Paine in the arse.”
Buy an old mimeograph machine, an IBM golf ball Selectric, some stencil paper and pamphleteer their butts till there is no tomorrow.
Papers, Papers, everywhere, with all SORTS of diabolical ideas thereon.
The old ways to protest are NEW again!
And the kids will sniff the purple ink and get an instant rush and listen to every word you printed!
Worked on us in Catholic school.
The University at Buffalo is the largest campus in the State University of New York system...
it’s full name is State University of New York at Buffalo...public, not private. My Alma Mater and I’m not surprised!
It’s public. U of B is the Buffalo extension campus of SUNY (State University of New York).
Then it seems to me they should treat all groups equally.
BTW, that includes Nazis, Skinheads, Communists, etc.
Note: I'm not trying to be provocative! Just pointing out the nature of free speech, which I love as a pillar of freedom.
They ain’t teaching any thing worth knowing, that’s for damn sure.
What would be interesting to know is the process by which an event is deemed “controversial.” I kinda doubt it exists beyond “whatever we think it is.”
I *do* agree that certain speakers/subjects are likely to have a greater chance of incidents, and extra security might not be a bad idea. And, as nearly every campus group gets funding from the Office of Student Affairs, the university (even a public one) does have some right to establish guidelines.
But the definition of “controversial” needs to be in writing, and needs to be publicly presented, so campus groups, not to mention the legislature, and the taxpayers who foot the bill for public universities, can weigh in on it. It’s the only way to ensure some petty tyrant of an administrator doesn’t enforce their will arbitrarily on a campus group they don’t agree with.
Sounds like a case the ACLJ and maybe even the ACLU would take.
Low, I see this a bit different.. The University had every right to expect trouble at this debate, and not the other.. They know the extremist reside on the Leftist side of the isle, and therefore more apt to cause trouble as their sacred cow is being gorged..
Our side seldom get violent in public, conversely, they haven’t displayed any such restraint.. That doesn’t excuse the double standard, nor does it justify the charge, but it does establish the fees should be charged to the group creating the additional security, and that isn’t the Conservative group..
if a fee must be paid it should be the same fee for ALL student groups.
All student groups are equal, but some student groups are more equal than others.
Hehe, my Catholic school had a mimeograph machine too!
Some colleges have “”free speech zones””. I guess the students think it’s cute.
I have a Beatle song in mind.........
I hate that song...:-(
Reminds me of an incident in a Seattle suburb a few years ago when Bush or Cheney attended a fundraiser which was greeted by protestors of one sort or another. The police billed the Republican Party for the additional security, even though it was the presence of the protestors that caused the alleged need for extra security.
“They know the extremist reside on the Leftist side of the isle, and therefore more apt to cause trouble as their sacred cow is being gorged..”
If they were on a damned “isle” we’d be a lot better off. Unfortunately those creeps are normally just on the other side of the “aisle” which makes them harder to avoid.
I think the other research universities in the system also use “at” but may have less of a history than UB. I know someone who is an alumnus of SUNY-Binghamton (Ph.D.), and he refers to it as Binghamton University. The other two are at Albany and Stony Brook. There is another public university in Buffalo—SUNY College at Buffalo, or Buff State.
AT least someone is asking a proper question, not likely to get a proper answer these days.
They would probably get paid "consultant" fees vs. being charged.
Freedom always costs blood in the end.