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A Rare Elected Voice for Socialism Pledges to Be Heard in Seattle
NY Times ^ | 12/28/13 | KIRK JOHNSON

Posted on 12/28/2013 5:42:17 PM PST by Libloather

SEATTLE — People are used to liberals running things around here. But nobody reckoned with Kshama Sawant. Ms. Sawant, a 41-year-old economics teacher and immigrant from India, took a left at liberal and then kept on going — all the way to socialism.

**SNIP**

But Kshama Sawant (pronounced SHAH-mah sah-WANT) heartily embraces the label. Ask her about almost any problem facing America today, and her answer will probably include the “S” word as the best and most reasonable response. Socialism is the path to real democracy, she says. Socialism protects the environment. Socialism is the best hope for young people who have seen their options crushed by the tide of low-wage, futureless jobs in the post-recession economy.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: elected; kshamasawant; liberalagenda; marxism; sawant; seattle; socialism; totalitarianism; washington
the “S” word

Mine is WAY different than hers.

1 posted on 12/28/2013 5:42:17 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Ask her if she has a toilet in a clean bathroom in her American house or is she missing that hole out side her home as a child in India where they ate and sh## in the same spot. Scum


2 posted on 12/28/2013 5:48:02 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: Libloather
Notice how the word "freedom", or "liberty", is missing from her speech.
BTW, there is no democracy in socialism. Did Hitler, Stalin, etc. care what the people wanted? Was the old Soviet Union a paradise on earth?
3 posted on 12/28/2013 5:49:07 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Libloather

“If you ask me as a socialist what workers deserve, they deserve the value of what they produce.”

No. That’s NOT what socialism teaches. Socialism teaches they get what they NEED. “From each according to their ability, to each according to their need”.

So she, as your socialist demagogue/ruler/deity, will TELL you what you “deserve” based upon her infallible godlike judgement. And you will LIKE it, because the all-powerful STATE will accept no criticism.

Getting what you EARN is a free market principle.


4 posted on 12/28/2013 5:50:27 PM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Libloather
Guilty, no parole....


5 posted on 12/28/2013 5:52:36 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: Libloather
Socialism protects the environment.


6 posted on 12/28/2013 5:53:12 PM PST by Libloather (Embrace the suck)
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To: Libloather

Ironically India is turning away from Nehru’s socialistic dogma towards capitalism and here is this Indian trying to impoverish United States with failed ideas of socialism.


7 posted on 12/28/2013 5:59:50 PM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: Libloather

I guess Obama was too Commie-Lite for them. Next couple of years, they’ll be shocked at the things she proposes, sort of like the Egyptians electing Hamas to high office, then being ‘startled’ at the appearance of the Muslim Brotherhood. They’ll find out. I wonder if she’s heard about all the recent violent rapes in India, the overall oppression of women there. Aren’t they Socialist in India?


8 posted on 12/28/2013 6:00:00 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Libloather

Seattle’s newest councilmember urges Boeing workers to seize factories
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3093914/posts


9 posted on 12/28/2013 6:00:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

Exactly right! And the workers can produce nothing if a risk taker does not invest his/her hard earned money to set up the means of production in the first place.


10 posted on 12/28/2013 6:01:52 PM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: Libloather

“Socialism is Communism sold by the glass.” P J O’Rourke

“The difference between Socialism and Communism is the difference between seduction and rape.” - George Putnam.


11 posted on 12/28/2013 6:10:45 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Libloather; Just Lori; Libertina; Lexinom; horatio; freebird5850; Horatio Gates; Ramius; ...
WA Ping

Fools like this don't realize that when everyone is brought down to socialist worker status the money flowing into the government for their environmental bull crap will stop. She need to go take a look at some of the socialist hell holes to get a little education.

12 posted on 12/28/2013 6:12:50 PM PST by Baynative (Guns have only two enemies: rust and politicians.)
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To: Baynative

And then people wonder why I moved to Georgia.


13 posted on 12/28/2013 6:13:49 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Libloather

Popular socialists throughout recent history: Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Fidel Castro, Hugo Chavez...

The main consistency here is that there are still enough screwed up, “make baby Jesus weep” stupid people who will actually vote for people who will eventually shove them into ovens or a concentration camp. That’s the left for you.


14 posted on 12/28/2013 6:14:41 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Libloather

America is a Democratic Republic, Bitch! Go back to India with your filth! Bitch!


15 posted on 12/28/2013 6:16:13 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: ronnie raygun

socialism is never a legitimate form government


16 posted on 12/28/2013 6:21:08 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: Baynative
Socialist hell holes are always different with every generation.
They always think their way has not been tried yet, and they can do it better.
The results are the same though, Death, despair and Disease. History is right
there to prove it's own failure. Even Communist China is using capitalism to enrich itself.
And when our money runs out from their spigot, there will be millions dead in the streets, again.
17 posted on 12/28/2013 6:21:49 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: concerned about politics

Oh come on. You know they just didn’t do it right.

No socialist regime in history has ever done socialism right. If our own socialists from OWS and so on create and run it, it will be right.


18 posted on 12/28/2013 6:22:18 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Libloather

19 posted on 12/28/2013 6:32:59 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: JPG

Or as I say, “everyone equally poor”.


20 posted on 12/28/2013 6:38:12 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Libloather
Ms. Sawant, a 41-year-old economics teacher and immigrant from India

The Indian immigrants I've met in this country (and quite a few, at that), have little comprehension of traditional American values. In general, they are religious CNN watchers, lovers of the Bent One, and are from a communist/socialist background and mindset. This piece of work fits this stereotype of mine.

21 posted on 12/28/2013 6:39:40 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: Libloather

American is still the Great Exception.

The Democratic Party is one of the very mainstream parties not to belong to the Socialist International.

Every every other Western country has a socialist or social democratic party holding elected office.

This has a lot to do with the individualism of American culture and the way the middle class developed in America. Workers were always enfranchised in America and they had to go through none of the struggles for democracy and equal rights that led to socialism in Europe in the 19th Century.

Marxism is dead and few socialists/social democrats advocate class warfare and complete dispossession of the rich today. It simply doesn’t win votes in Western societies. In the rest of the world though social welfare is not seen as a handout but as an obligation of society to take care of every one and ensure the vagaries of the markets don’t have impact on people’s survival.

Its an idea that hasn’t caught in America. But the fact its now possible to openly elect socialists/social democrats here show with the changing demographics in American life, America is going to become a lot more like Europe and neighboring Canada in the things that matter.


22 posted on 12/28/2013 6:45:05 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Libloather

So she’s pretty much the usual.


23 posted on 12/28/2013 6:47:45 PM PST by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: Libloather
A Rare Elected Voice for Socialism Pledges to Be Heard in Seattle

Or, a foreigner wins political office to access others money.
24 posted on 12/28/2013 6:47:49 PM PST by Vision (Tune out, drop back)
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To: Libloather

Using Marx’s ideas (be they “socialist”, “communist” or whatever) to help the middle class is like trying to use Hitler’s ideas to help the Jews.


25 posted on 12/28/2013 6:50:38 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: Libloather

What do they mean socialism is a rare exception. The Democrats are filled with socialists including the current President. They ust don’t say it thats all.


26 posted on 12/28/2013 6:55:26 PM PST by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Except the political class


27 posted on 12/28/2013 7:05:54 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Libloather
Do a little reading and you'll see that filthy,knuckledragging,violent moslems aren't the only serious problem facing India.Filthy,knuckledragging,violent Maoists....yes,I said *Maoists*....are also a serious problem there.But it looks like one of them has made their way to Washington.
28 posted on 12/28/2013 7:06:19 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Libloather. And other than the massive bloodshed required to impose socialism, and to keep it propped in power, it accomplishes nothing but self-congratulation.


29 posted on 12/28/2013 7:15:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: MaxMax
America is a Democratic Republic . . .

Quite right, and it began the moment the 17th amendment was ratified.

30 posted on 12/28/2013 7:24:46 PM PST by Jacquerie (Circle you calendar. Mark Levin on C-Span In Depth January 5th at noon eastern.)
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To: Libloather

For the record, the USA was founded as a Republic. No ceremony was performed, no certificate issued that changed our status to Democracy. The subject came up during the 19th Century Socialist attack on the American culture.

The Progressive Woodrow Wilson was quite taken with the term and he probably influenced the unofficial title transfer during the conscious, that is, early period of his presidency.

The opportunistic Democrats picked right up on it. The Republicans, much like todays version, looked the other way.


31 posted on 12/28/2013 7:27:31 PM PST by MurrietaMadman
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To: concerned about politics
Notice how the word "freedom", or "liberty", is missing from her speech.

Precisely. Her "paradise" ends in CHAOS and DEATH to those who oppose power as it is taken from the people!

32 posted on 12/28/2013 7:30:42 PM PST by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: Libloather

Why, yes, look at all those great jobs in Vietnam. The Chinese (aren’t they socialist?) were moving their factories to Vietnam ( aren’t they socialist?) because they could get away with paying the Vietnamese workers $100 a month. That is less than one dollar an hour. There’s a socialist workers paradise for you.


33 posted on 12/28/2013 7:32:34 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Libloather

That’s why Boeing is looking to set up a new shop outside of Washington.


34 posted on 12/28/2013 7:34:10 PM PST by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: Libloather; MaxMax

Previous reply intended for MaxMax


35 posted on 12/28/2013 7:38:53 PM PST by MurrietaMadman
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To: Libloather

Rare? What planet are these yahoos on?

Oh, it’s the new york slimes.

Nevermind.


36 posted on 12/28/2013 8:08:20 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: eclecticEel

Idiot Sawant


37 posted on 12/28/2013 9:39:38 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Washington: "I cannot tell a lie". Obama: "I cannot tell.....I lie")
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To: bkopto
In the 2008 election, Indian citizens voted 90% for Obama.

Asian Indians, by the way, are the best educated immigrant group in America.

That number is from a Pew Research survey on all immigrant voters in 2008, and it was released shortly before the 2010 election.

38 posted on 12/28/2013 10:07:37 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: Baynative

I hate to tell ya but all the Democrats are Socialist or Communist!!!


39 posted on 12/28/2013 11:29:50 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Seattle has always had a hardcore marxist faction, esp. when the Communist Party USA controlled ILWU (International Longhshoremen Workers Union) of Soviet operative Harry Bridges controlled the docks from the 1930’s onward.

Nice to see that an immigrant from India is continuing on his policies.

Well, Seattle, you let dopeheads and commies and liberal freaks vote, and look what you’ve got.

Enjoy your just deserts.

Beautiful city but full of commies, druggies and liberal assholes. Been there, saw it, didn’t stay.


40 posted on 12/29/2013 2:08:55 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Libloather

An “economics teacher” how perfect. In my two dozen years in higher education I NEVER met a single Economist who knew a damned thing about how markets worked.


41 posted on 12/29/2013 4:37:05 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Libloather

Worked great for the Soviet Union, and it is so far working great for the USA. We should be in the state of total economic collapse pretty soon thanks to the socialists and 51 percent of stupid Americans that embrace these horror shows! Great that the libtard Californians that moved to Seattle are on a path to destroy that destination also. They are like a freakin’ cancer.


42 posted on 12/29/2013 5:28:18 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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