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Bavarian Town Rejects Anti-Hitler Vote
The Local ^ | December 16, 2013 | Tom Bristow

Posted on 12/28/2013 9:09:15 PM PST by lbryce

A Bavarian town failed to distance themselves from Hitler in a vote last week. The Nazi leader was made an honorary citizen of the area in 1933 but half of the council voted against disassociating the town from him.

On Tuesday the town of Dietramszell in Bavaria was supposed to distance itself from Hitler and other leading Nazis in a motion put forward by mayor Leni Gröbmaier.

The move came after archivist Agnes Wagner found Hitler had been made an honorary citizen in March 1933, the Münchener Merkur newspaper reported.

Nearby Münsing carried out a similar vote a few days earlier which passed without discussion and without any opposition, the Merkur reported.

But the town council of Dietramszell refused to follow suit.

“It would be a distortion of history, the whole debate is laughable,” said council member Traudi Fröstl. Another member Josef Hauser said: "Honourary citizenship goes with death. It is all a very long time ago."

And a third council member asked: “Can we not distance ourselves from living politicians? That would be much wiser,” the Merkur reported.

Mayor Gröbmaier tried to convince the members to vote for her motion but she failed to get a majority. The council was split with eight voting for and eight against.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bavaria; bayern; dietramszell; germany; hitler; nazism; viertesreich

Wenn Sie Ihre Versicherung möchten, können Sie Ihre Versicherung behalten
English:If you like your insurance policy, you can keep your insurance policy(you nitwis)
1 posted on 12/28/2013 9:09:15 PM PST by lbryce
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To: All

That’s nitwits.


2 posted on 12/28/2013 9:09:49 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: lbryce

I’d like Obama to dissociate himself with Lenin in both word and deed. I won’t hold my breath.


3 posted on 12/28/2013 9:13:42 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: lbryce

Another stupid fake controversy. He is dead and he is not coming back and his ashes are probably in Berlin. Good luck distancing Berlin from that.


4 posted on 12/28/2013 9:19:30 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Viennacon
That’s like asking him to disassociate himself with Muhammad aka “al-Nabi”.
5 posted on 12/28/2013 9:19:41 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: GeronL

“Fake controversy” . . . like Benghazi? With all due respect, I find it troublesome to read a paraphrase of Susan Rice’s words in another context.

The man may not be coming back, but token gestures like this keep the wicked spirit that motivated him alive. Especially when it’s in a country where a majority still regards Israel as “genocidal” towards the “Palestinians”.


6 posted on 12/28/2013 9:22:46 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: GeronL

He’s dead? Whooz dat in the White Hut?


7 posted on 12/28/2013 9:23:26 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: lbryce

Hitler killed himself almost 70 years ago.
So how many there alive remember much about life under him?


8 posted on 12/28/2013 9:23:40 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs

That’s the problem.


9 posted on 12/28/2013 9:25:34 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Got him! Got him,good!


10 posted on 12/28/2013 9:30:41 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: Olog-hai
RE :”That’s the problem.”

Pretty small one in the scheme of things.

Germany's seem to have gotten the last laugh being Europe's banker.

I can imagine where many Japanese imagine back to the day when their small country could invade China. Its natural.

11 posted on 12/28/2013 9:31:20 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: lbryce

The people of Bavaria still love Hitler. The rest is just political expediency. Bavaria has no interest in apologies - rather they delight in news of towns like Baltimore... Live there and you’ll see.


12 posted on 12/28/2013 9:34:47 PM PST by golux
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To: sickoflibs
Look. I didn't make any claim as if he drew blood or something. It was the essence of a simple word game, the succinct and pithy way he responded. We're not talking about him having lobbed your head off in some jousting match. If it makes you feel better, I apologize for whatever it is you seem upset about.
13 posted on 12/28/2013 9:39:05 PM PST by lbryce (Obama:The Worst is Yet To Come)
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To: lbryce

Meanwhile, they did approve an anti-Hilter vote.

14 posted on 12/28/2013 9:43:14 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: lbryce; Olog-hai
RE :”We're not talking about him having lobbed your head off in some jousting match. If it makes you feel better, I apologize for whatever it is you seem upset about. “

???

Are you sure you responded to the right comment because I have no idea what you are talking about.

15 posted on 12/28/2013 9:43:25 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: golux
Offer your supporters goods from the government for their support.

Make the nation proud again.

Punish the non-believers in the public sector

Create a logo, use it whenever possible

Blame and promote hatred of the Jews Conservatives.

16 posted on 12/28/2013 9:48:38 PM PST by Loud Mime (Living Orwell's nightmare)
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To: lbryce
Set it to music

**Don't be stupid, be a smarty. Come and join the Nazi party.**

17 posted on 12/28/2013 9:56:28 PM PST by Daffynition (It isn't what we don't know that gives us trouble, it's what we know that ain't so.)
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To: lbryce

Adolf Hitler was a product of a particular age and set of circumstances that produced such an individual and paved his way to power. His existence and what he stood for in the larger picture of human history can’t, nor should be swept under the rug. Mistakes are to be learned from.


18 posted on 12/28/2013 10:02:06 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Daffynition

I have the original 67 version with Zero and Gene on DVD.


19 posted on 12/28/2013 10:03:14 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Olog-hai

I did not know that Susan Rice had coined the term or copyrighted it. I don’t think this has anything to do with his wicked spirit, as most politicians harbor the same kind of spirit with different labels. It is all politics and PR games.

Why was this even brought up? Who really cared about something pointless that happened in 1933? This was probably one of the many distractions local politicians throw out to keep people from talking about real issues of the moment.

This is like ObamaCare fails and the Democrats start talking about some House resolution from 1933 that absolutely must be changed before anything else happens, and the media harp on it.


20 posted on 12/28/2013 10:26:15 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: lbryce

Call him a Nazi, he won’t even frown.
“Ha, Nazi Schmazi,” says Wernher von Braun.


21 posted on 12/28/2013 10:31:10 PM PST by No Whey Jose
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To: lbryce

Punkt!


22 posted on 12/28/2013 10:37:56 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: SpaceBar

23 posted on 12/28/2013 11:02:04 PM PST by Daffynition (It isn't what we don't know that gives us trouble, it's what we know that ain't so.)
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To: lbryce

It’s like Salem, Mass. passing a resolution today, apologizing for burning witches. I mean, who really cares?


24 posted on 12/28/2013 11:03:31 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Daffynition

25 posted on 12/28/2013 11:05:35 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

26 posted on 12/28/2013 11:59:19 PM PST by Daffynition (It isn't what we don't know that gives us trouble, it's what we know that ain't so.)
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To: Daffynition

27 posted on 12/29/2013 12:15:56 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

28 posted on 12/29/2013 12:27:12 AM PST by Daffynition (It isn't what we don't know that gives us trouble, it's what we know that ain't so.)
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To: golux
"The people of Bavaria still love Hitler."

I doubt it. Last I checked Bavaria is the most conservative area of Germany -- the Texas of Europe I've heard it called.

Silly liberals try to pretend reality never happened. Conservatives acknowledge the past and learn from it.

29 posted on 12/29/2013 12:33:10 AM PST by Wyrd bi ful ard (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: Olog-hai

“The man may not be coming back, but token gestures like this keep the wicked spirit that motivated him alive. Especially when it’s in a country where a majority still regards Israel as “genocidal” towards the “Palestinians”.”

Agreed. I think it is wrong to rub people’s faces in the past. On the other hand, when situations like this come up, it shouldn’t be controversial to repudiate the Nazis.


30 posted on 12/29/2013 12:57:58 AM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: lbryce

If only the impoverished little mud-hutted village in Kenya where Barry was born would renounce that little guttersnipe.


31 posted on 12/29/2013 4:16:48 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: GeronL

The town’s refusal to revoke the citizenship thereof happened in 2013, not 1933. That is very strong symbolism there.


32 posted on 12/29/2013 5:09:02 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: sickoflibs
Take note of what Bernard Connolly said about this:
The third battle is even more titanic; it has gained in intensity since the fall of the Berlin Wall and the longed-for collapse of the Yalta carve-up of Europe. It is the battle for control of the European superstate, in which French technocrats confront German federalists, both sides claiming to fight under the banner of Charlemagne. The “collateral damage” from this battle lies mainly in the future, but it could be ghastly. …
Anyone who fights in the name of Charlemagne is fighting in the name of a particular “Reich”, remember.
33 posted on 12/29/2013 5:19:17 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: lbryce

It sounds like the town council is saying “nein” to empty gestures. Wish our politicians would follow suit.


34 posted on 12/29/2013 6:31:28 AM PST by Oratam
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To: Oratam

What’s empty about that gesture?


35 posted on 12/29/2013 6:40:24 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: sickoflibs

There are plenty of Germans and people in Europe who are still around who were around then. If you were 17 and in The Hitler Youth in 44/45 you’d be 87 or 88 today. Do the math.


36 posted on 12/29/2013 7:06:07 AM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
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To: No Whey Jose

“The rockets go up/and where they come down? “That’s not my department’’/says Werner von Braun.


37 posted on 12/29/2013 7:08:39 AM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
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To: Olog-hai
Anyone who fights in the name of Charlemagne is fighting in the name of a particular “Reich”, remember.

"Get it on, Kid Charlemagne."

38 posted on 12/29/2013 10:18:04 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai

Pure symbolism over substance.

Did the US revoke Jim Jones citizenship? No. That tells me the US is a horribly evil country.

Of course not.


39 posted on 12/29/2013 10:40:20 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

Jim Jones was not a US president/dictator born outside the country who usurped authority and started one of the most bloody wars in history.


40 posted on 12/29/2013 12:38:12 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

and Hitler wasn’t a citizen of a town in Bavaria


41 posted on 12/29/2013 1:00:54 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

Dietramszell seems to dispute that.


42 posted on 12/29/2013 1:10:44 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: lbryce; Arthur Wildfire! March; Clintonfatigued

Weird.


43 posted on 12/29/2013 5:48:46 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Olog-hai

Apologizing for acts one personally did not commit is a meaningless and empty gesture. It’s post-modern kitch.


44 posted on 12/30/2013 3:58:27 PM PST by Oratam
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To: Oratam

How is this an apology?


45 posted on 12/30/2013 4:08:33 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Enlighten me as to what this is.


46 posted on 12/30/2013 4:13:05 PM PST by Oratam
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> half of the council voted against disassociating the town from him. On Tuesday the town of Dietramszell in Bavaria was supposed to distance itself from Hitler and other leading Nazis in a motion put forward by mayor Leni Gröbmaier. The move came after archivist Agnes Wagner found Hitler had been made an honorary citizen in March 1933, the Münchener Merkur newspaper reported.

Thanks lbryce.


47 posted on 01/06/2014 12:49:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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