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Kerry reportedly says he will consider freeing Jonathan Pollard as part of prisoner swap
foxnews.com ^ | 12/29/13 | foxnews/ap

Posted on 12/29/2013 11:17:16 AM PST by ColdOne

Secretary of State John Kerry will travel to the Middle East in the first week of the new year amid a flurry of reports in the Israeli press that he has said he would consider freeing convicted spy Jonathan Pollard.

Israel's Channel 10 TV station first reported Friday that Kerry offered to free Pollard as part of an exchange for the release of a fourth group of Palestinian prisoners from Israeli jails as peace talks resume between the two sides. The third of four groups is scheduled to be released Monday, the Jerusalem Post reported.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: israel; nsa; pollard; turnaboutfairplay; waronterror
Hmmptt....'He'
1 posted on 12/29/2013 11:17:16 AM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

Will Valerie actually let Kerry be King for a day?


2 posted on 12/29/2013 11:19:04 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy

It seems he thinks so!


3 posted on 12/29/2013 11:20:16 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11) Hey, Harry Reid.. 1-800-318-2596!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Don’t ya just love how this is put “He will”.
Last I knew the SoS couldn’t free the top of a
Ketsup bottle.


4 posted on 12/29/2013 11:20:55 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ColdOne

Will that mollify Israel for Obama’s betrayal of letting Iran get A-bombs and missiles capable of destroying Israel, plus pulling America’s nuclear umbrella all the way back to Pittsburgh? One traitor spy balanced against annihilation?


5 posted on 12/29/2013 11:23:34 AM PST by RicocheT (Where neither their property nor their honor is touched, most men live content, Niccolo Machiavelli)
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To: ColdOne

We’re trading a convicted spy for Palestinians?
John Kerry: the man traded the family cow for some “magic” beans, ground them up and snorted them, traded the family horse for some “magic” peas, lost them betting that the sun wouldn’t come up, traded the family home for some magic carrots, stuck those up his nose and cut off all the oxygen to his brain which wasn’t working anyway.
The man went to a car dealer to trade a Mercedes and came back with a calendar.


6 posted on 12/29/2013 11:26:16 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: ColdOne

Palestine gets it’s terrorists back, Israel gets it’s spy back. What does the US get?


7 posted on 12/29/2013 11:26:17 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: ColdOne

Long overdue, but doubt it will happen considering what a liar Kerry is.

Before I get flamed, please do your homework. Most everyone who has objected to Pollard’s release has mistaken his acts with Aldrich Ames, who is serving a life sentence with no chance of parole. Ames should have been executed IMHO.


8 posted on 12/29/2013 11:26:57 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Cowboy Bob

The shaft.


9 posted on 12/29/2013 11:27:58 AM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: Cowboy Bob
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10 posted on 12/29/2013 11:28:31 AM PST by CMailBag
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To: Cowboy Bob

What does the US get?...As usual. more third world immigrants and welfare users.


11 posted on 12/29/2013 11:34:39 AM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Sioux-san

You think you will get flamed??? For calling John Kerry a liar??


12 posted on 12/29/2013 11:35:38 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: ColdOne

Now there you go: I never knew a Secretary of State had the power to pardon a Federal Prisoner.

Ya learn something new every day.


13 posted on 12/29/2013 11:35:55 AM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: ColdOne

Pollard has been behind bars for more than 20 years, and is due to be released in 2015. Releasing him at this point — or even discussing it as a possibility — is just political pandering.


14 posted on 12/29/2013 11:36:18 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: ColdOne

Won’t happen. The District of Criminals has dangled this deal before and stabbed Israel in the back resulting in Pollard still jail.


15 posted on 12/29/2013 11:37:35 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: ColdOne
It's also worth noting that Pollard was eligible for parole ten years after he was sentenced, but he has never applied for parole. If Pollard stays behind bars, it's largely his own doing.
16 posted on 12/29/2013 11:39:41 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: ColdOne
The gigolo is lying! Just as he lied to nutty Theresa about his mistress. Theresa (just shove it) was smart enough to have a pre nuptial, but Israel has nothing. How is the crazier of the two?
17 posted on 12/29/2013 11:44:11 AM PST by Stepan12 (!)
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To: Sioux-san

Pollard did not betray America. The stuff he gave Israel was supposed to go to Israel anyway, but anti-Semitic Casper Weinberg withheld them in the hope that Saddam Hussein’s Iraq would successfully gas the Jews of Israel (Pollard is a hero). It is a pity that Pollard pled guilty because he would’ve had a fighting in court given all the grief that Iraq has given us; e.g., The Stark, Operation Desert Storm, Operation Iraqi Freedom, etc.


18 posted on 12/29/2013 11:52:04 AM PST by Stepan12 (!)
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To: ColdOne

So the authority to pardon is part of the Secretary of State’s office now?


19 posted on 12/29/2013 11:52:44 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Alberta's Child
If Pollard stays behind bars, it's largely his own doing.

So what is the government holding over his head that would make him NOT want parole yet?


20 posted on 12/29/2013 12:00:19 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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To: JSteff
Probably nothing. His refusal to apply for parole is likely based on one or both of the following:

1. If he applies for parole he is implicitly acknowledging that he was guilty of the crimes.

2. If he's paroled he would still have to live under the supervision of the Federal justice system and probably won't be able to travel outside the country. He may consider himself at risk in the U.S. if he's not in custody behind bars.

21 posted on 12/29/2013 12:10:29 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: ColdOne

trade for Palestinian prisoners??? wth


22 posted on 12/29/2013 12:16:00 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Stepan12
Correction: I think Theresa Heinz Kerry said now shove it instead.

I regret the error.

23 posted on 12/29/2013 12:20:12 PM PST by Stepan12 (!)
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To: ColdOne

I trust John F. Kerry’s word as much as I trust Iran


24 posted on 12/29/2013 12:21:38 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Nifster

I’m only gonna believe it when I see him in his CIA hat.


25 posted on 12/29/2013 12:26:50 PM PST by onedoug
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To: ColdOne
Kerry reportedly says he will consider freeing Jonathan Pollard as part of prisoner swap

Say wut?
Since when has John Kerry been in a position to free Pollard, as Secretary of State or in any other capacity?

I have also in the last few years wondered how the Hillary and now Kerry have the legal ability to give away tens or hundreds of millions of dollars to any foreign group or country without the express action of the House?

Can anyone explain this?
Serious question.

26 posted on 12/29/2013 12:27:31 PM PST by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good grace to resign!)
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To: Stepan12

What the hell are you talking about? Caspar Weinberg wanted all the Jews in Israel gassed? Like Hell.


27 posted on 12/29/2013 12:30:01 PM PST by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Stepan12

Wow....put the tin foil hat back in the closet

Weinberg wanted Saddam to gas the jews...!!!


28 posted on 12/29/2013 12:41:30 PM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ColdOne
For a brief moment, I thought that Kerry was actually working towards the release of Americans. This article says he's trading for Palestinians?

-PJ

29 posted on 12/29/2013 12:50:36 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: ColdOne

A prisoner swap? Israel is holding prisoners the USA wants sprung?


30 posted on 12/29/2013 12:55:22 PM PST by Salman
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To: gitmo

Not for calling Kerry a liar, but for saying Pollard didn’t do anything worthy of keeping him in prison for the rest of his life. He was betrayed and used - he admitted he passed secrets to Israel that should have been done as a matter of course. I have gotten flamed for saying this in the past by people who are attributing to Pollard what Aldrich Ames did.


31 posted on 12/29/2013 6:16:05 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Stepan12

I agree with you. Pollard suffered a royal bait & switch by Weinberger. Reagan’s administration was full of Israel haters/Pro-Muslims. James Baker comes to mind.


32 posted on 12/29/2013 6:17:40 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san

It is really a pity. With Richard Allen and Alexander Haig gone, there were no friendly views toward Israel to steer Pres. Reagan in the proper direction. George Schultz, a Sec. of State and Bechtel owner, was warming up to Israel, but how much influence that relative newcomer to the Reagan Administration had, I am not sure. At least the greatest President of the 20th Century did not personally hate Israel as Jimmy Carter and the Jimmy Carter on steroids, Barack Hussein Obama, do. The Reagan Administration recognized the PLO because George H. W. Bush (Bush 41) asked him to do so.


33 posted on 12/29/2013 7:33:47 PM PST by Stepan12 (!)
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To: Alberta's Child
Their may be another reason in that it may be an absolutely useless exercise to apply for parole. Weinberger and maybe the Justice Department asked that Pollard not be paroled and parole boards do not usually go against what the government recommends.

They didn't do it with the Walker spy ring and they won't do it with Pollard either

34 posted on 12/29/2013 7:41:51 PM PST by Stepan12 (!)
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To: Stepan12
I'm sorry, but I think that's a lame excuse. As a criminal serving time in prison you can't complain that you've spent 20+ years behind bars ... while at the same time you refuse to apply for parole.

This video clip is very interesting:

Click Here

The back-and-forth between U.S. Rep. Eliot Engel and Joseph DiGenova (the prosecutor in the original case) tells me everything I need to know. DiGenova schools the smarmy Engel right there on television.

35 posted on 12/30/2013 4:14:31 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Sioux-san
The only "bait & switch" in this case was Pollard's.

1. He pleaded guilty to avoid a trial where all of the evidence against him would have been public.

2. This ensured that the most damning evidence came out behind closed doors in the damage assessment Weinberger provided to the judge in the case. This means that the entire debate about Pollard's release over the last 15 ears has been held without any public discussion about this critical information.

3. After all the denials by both Pollard and the Israeli government, they later admit that he was an Israeli agent anyway.

4. Some years after his sentencing, Pollard files an appeal of his original sentencing and tries to get his original guilty plea withdrawn. That appeal was turned down.

5. After that appeal was rejected, Pollard then files another appeal claiming that he was the victim of incompetent counsel. That appeal was turned down, too.

This guy's whole posture from the beginning was aimed at keeping a full, objective assessment of his crimes out of public view. He's been very successful at it, but he's been burned by his own legal strategy because he'll spend 25 years behind bars. This is why what had been a legal issue is being turned into a political one ... because Pollard, his attorneys, and the Israeli government came out on the wrong end of the legal side of it.

36 posted on 12/30/2013 4:43:12 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Alberta's Child

murderers are out on the street in less time - I wish there would be a full airing of what Pollard is alleged to have done as an agent of a friendly nation, an ally that America betrays on a daily basis to suck up to the muslims.


37 posted on 12/30/2013 8:02:02 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Stepan12

And then there’s that wonderful photo of GWB holding hands and strolling with the Saudi prince or king or whatever the heck he is.

Clinton used Pollard to get Israel to agree to a bunch of suicidal things and then reneged. Don’t remember the issue coming up with Bush 2. Now we have Kerry dangling the Pollard carrot. That will go nowhere as well. This is less about Pollard and way more about my country’s leaders, whom I despise even more.


38 posted on 12/30/2013 8:06:20 AM PST by Sioux-san
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To: Alberta's Child
It appears that my intuition was correct and this no parole for Pollard link I found merely confirms the information I read about how parole boards behave (lifted from me reading a book about the John Walker spy ring) is correct.

And if he asks for parole, Pollard cannot asks for executive clemency for 15 years if I remember the link correctly.

39 posted on 12/30/2013 4:59:33 PM PST by Stepan12 (!)
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To: Sioux-san

If you talk to anyone who worked in U.S. intelligence back in those days, they’ll tell you that Israel was no more trustworthy than the Soviet Union.


40 posted on 12/30/2013 6:25:28 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Stepan12
So you're saying that if Pollard had been turned down for parole in 1996, he probably wouldn't have been eligible to seek parole again or executive clemency until 2011?

How's that working out for him?

41 posted on 12/30/2013 6:28:05 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: Cowboy Bob

“Palestine gets it’s terrorists back, Israel gets it’s spy back. What does the US get?”

Sounds similar to the deal the 76ers got when they traded for Andrew Bynum in that 3-way trade. Maybe he should apply for that job?


42 posted on 01/06/2014 3:57:46 PM PST by Tallguy (between taglines...)
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