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Antarctic passengers ponder logistics of air rescue as second icebreaker closes in
The Guardian ^ | 12/29/2013 | Alok Jha

Posted on 12/29/2013 1:31:07 PM PST by fso301

In balmy 2C weather the ice has softened in places, posing a hazard for wanderers, but the Akademik Shokalskiy is still stuck

Sunday began as the days now always begin on the MV Akademik Shokalskiy, with a briefing for the passengers on the status of the rescue effort.

The crew and expedition leaders had been poring over weather and ice forecasts and speaking with maritime rescue agencies and other ships' captains since the early morning. At 10am they decided it was time to warn the rest of the passengers to steel themselves for the extreme-case scenario if the icebreakers could not get us out within the next 48 hours: an air evacuation.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; manbearpig; shokalskiy
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1 posted on 12/29/2013 1:31:07 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

Ponder this: the networks will carry four months of personal stories from these “heros” when they finally do get back.


2 posted on 12/29/2013 1:34:00 PM PST by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: fso301

I wonder how many of those passengers thought that this would be a “once in a lifetime” trip because the ice would soon be gone due to global warming.

I wonder if they’re getting daily briefings from Hollywood science experts on how this is normal as the planet undergoes its death throes due to global climate change.


3 posted on 12/29/2013 1:35:13 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: fso301

If we didn’t have any coal plants this would never happen.

Pray America is Waking Up


4 posted on 12/29/2013 1:37:59 PM PST by bray ("The Republic of Texas 2022" is coming in Feb)
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To: Bryanw92
Probably safe to say all of them believe these type prophecies proclaimed by their priests.

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html

5 posted on 12/29/2013 1:39:55 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

Global Warming.


6 posted on 12/29/2013 1:40:06 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Flag_This

And thereby publicize a cooling planet for four months?! Methinks not.


7 posted on 12/29/2013 1:41:23 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: fso301

Nice opening line.
Alok (if that is correct) can write.


8 posted on 12/29/2013 1:41:31 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: fso301

I urge all my fellow freepers to go out and start your cars trucks lawm mowers and such and let them idle I think we could help melt the ice and save those fellow humans


9 posted on 12/29/2013 1:44:34 PM PST by al baby (Hi MomÂ… I was refereeing to Obama)
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To: Bryanw92
I wonder how many of those passengers thought that this would be a "once in a lifetime" trip because the ice would still be gone because of global warming.

Not just because of climate change. For a few decades now, extreme guided tours have become the norm. There haven't been many problems, so people forget that there are real dangers, that their guides can't take care of everything.

This is a wakeup call. Sometimes, "extreme" means extreme.

10 posted on 12/29/2013 1:48:13 PM PST by grania
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To: fso301

I would very much enjoy a boat trip to the Antarctic.
Given that it is currently colder here where I am at in lovely Wisconsin, the temperature would feel right at home.

Getting airlifted out would be interesting as well. I’ve never been in a helicopter.


11 posted on 12/29/2013 1:50:35 PM PST by Nonsense Unlimited
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To: fso301

A bunch of PC Scientists, traveling to the Antarctic Pole to prove global warming is melting all the ice, are stuck in the ice.

Ironic.


12 posted on 12/29/2013 1:52:03 PM PST by theDentist (FUBO; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: Southack
"And thereby publicize a cooling planet for four months?! Methinks not."

What have the 750 print stories about these hammerheads been doing, exactly? True, the print stories leave out key, inconvenient facts and so will the endless interviews.

13 posted on 12/29/2013 1:52:31 PM PST by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: fso301

Blame Bush


14 posted on 12/29/2013 1:56:34 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Flag_This

Inconvenient stories are put on Ignore faster than other news events...


15 posted on 12/29/2013 1:58:48 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: fso301

What an adventure, I wish them the best but think of the stories they will have to tell.


16 posted on 12/29/2013 2:00:25 PM PST by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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To: JamesA
What an adventure, I wish them the best but think of the stories they will have to tell.

True but when plopping down $25K each, I don't think these are the kind of stories they were expecting to tell upon their return.

17 posted on 12/29/2013 2:03:25 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

abandon ship, send in the copters, it’ll take several trips but they need to get out of there before they become peoplesickles


18 posted on 12/29/2013 2:03:58 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Bryanw92

Hollywood? The eco-nuts are there with the passengers telling them those things I bet.

The passengers should make them walk the plank... heh


19 posted on 12/29/2013 2:05:04 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Nonsense Unlimited

if you go take some dogs and a sled


20 posted on 12/29/2013 2:05:51 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: fso301

Shackleford didn’t need no stinkin’ helicopters.


22 posted on 12/29/2013 2:07:20 PM PST by centurion316
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To: JoeProBono

Clearly racist as I see no black folks. How can science thrive without this diversity?


23 posted on 12/29/2013 2:07:36 PM PST by KSCITYBOY
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To: centurion316

I assume you’re thinking of Ernie Shackleton?


24 posted on 12/29/2013 2:09:33 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: Bryanw92

Don’t know the answer, however I would love to take that trip. I am not an environmental whacko but have watched travel shows and read “Endurance” and it would be exciting, but very expensive.


25 posted on 12/29/2013 2:10:08 PM PST by AUsome Joy
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To: fso301
In balmy 2C weather the ice has softened in places...

Global warming at last?

26 posted on 12/29/2013 2:10:50 PM PST by QT3.14
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To: GeronL

They might as well know, they could easily die out there. Even if they have an air rescue, there must be some real dangers in doing so landing and picking the up and taking off. I think we will see some obits out of it.


27 posted on 12/29/2013 2:11:53 PM PST by healy61
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To: fso301

Except it’s the same story 10 days in a row...


28 posted on 12/29/2013 2:13:15 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: fso301

Importantly, January is the second warmest month in Antarctica, averaging about -18F. February is considerably colder, and by March the temperature drops radically.

So there actually is a timetable for them to get their rear ends out of there. If they miscalculate, even air rescue might be difficult or impossible.

And that’s just the temperature and the weather. The ice itself is another factor. If it either contracted or expanded radically, it could crush the lower hull of the ship.


29 posted on 12/29/2013 2:29:12 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Last Obamacare Promise: "If You Like Your Eternal Soul, You Can Keep It.")
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To: AUsome Joy
however I would love to take that trip.

Ditto.

For $23,000 (maybe more now, I haven't checked in a couple of years), a nuclear powered Russian icebreaker will take you to the North Pole.

30 posted on 12/29/2013 2:32:35 PM PST by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: VRWC For Truth

Obamunists still try to point to Bush whenever any of their Messiah’s multitude of faults are brought to light.

“But Bush... but Bush...”

Still.


31 posted on 12/29/2013 2:33:17 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: centurion316

Yes Shackleton, my bad. Trying to watch the Chiefs game and write comments at the same time, probably a bad plan.


32 posted on 12/29/2013 2:42:16 PM PST by centurion316
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To: fso301

Stupid can be painfully cold and luckily they all volunteered for it.


33 posted on 12/29/2013 2:43:20 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Some people might call it a confidence game or swindle, others call it ObamaCare!)
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To: JoeProBono

A couple of those people appear to have been (poorly) photoshopped in. Look at the woman second from our right on the front row, and is that a spare leg next to her?


34 posted on 12/29/2013 3:29:07 PM PST by PAR35
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To: fso301

Oh heck man... david letterman said that people can water-ski in the Antarctic these days and algore swore to him that this was the truth!


35 posted on 12/29/2013 3:29:19 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: RetiredTexasVet
Stupid can be painfully cold and luckily they all volunteered for it.

As fun as plinking penguins must be, I'd never pay $25K for the trip.


36 posted on 12/29/2013 3:29:28 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

The only downside is the outrageous cost of 22 long rifle rounds!


37 posted on 12/29/2013 3:38:03 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Some people might call it a confidence game or swindle, others call it ObamaCare!)
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To: RetiredTexasVet
The only downside is the outrageous cost of 22 long rifle rounds!

Yeah but you can more than make up the cost by popping them in a flipper and then filming "dramatic" documentary footage of leopard seals and killer whales feeding on penguins. That's the way its done you know?

38 posted on 12/29/2013 3:41:55 PM PST by fso301
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To: Bryanw92
I wonder how many of those passengers thought that this would be a “once in a lifetime” trip because the ice would soon be gone due to global warming.

According to Gore the ice should have ALREADY been gone by 2013...

It's funny. Liberals scammers could do the 'once in a lifetime' trip for the next 500 years... or as long as the world produces gullible liberals.

39 posted on 12/29/2013 3:48:35 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: JoeProBono

The world is laughing...


40 posted on 12/29/2013 3:49:22 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: JoeProBono

It’s freezing out there and these people are sitting on the snow?
Good thing they’re wearing life jackets. Yet some are gloveless or hatless.

I see no reason for them to be so happy... and throwing snow balls. Why are they being rescued?


41 posted on 12/29/2013 3:51:18 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: fso301

Saving the Antarctic scientists, er media, er, activists, er tourists trapped by sea ice
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/12/29/saving-the-antarctic-scientists-er-media-er-activists-er-tourists-trapped-by-sea-ice/#more-100034

Icebreaker now also stuck in the ice – Video
http://iceagenow.info/2013/12/icebreaker-stuck-ice-video/

Icebreaker Abandons Bid to Free Trapped Ship – Video
http://iceagenow.info/2013/12/icebreaker-abandons-bid-free-ship-trapped-antarctic-ice-video/

Ice around trapped vessel now more than 10-ft (3-m) deep
http://iceagenow.info/2013/12/ice-trapped-vessel-10-ft-3-m-deep/

Chinese icebreaker stalled by heavy ice
http://iceagenow.info/2013/12/chinese-icebreaker-stalled-heavy-ice/

Antarctic ice blocks ice breaker sent to rescue climate researchers trapped in… ice
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3106207/posts?page=20

Rescue of icebound Antarctic ship faces setback [ice too thick for icebreaker]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3106091/posts

Antarctic ice breaker now stuck [Rescuing Liberals Trying to prove Global Warming! Oh, the irony!]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3106008/posts

Icebreaker trying to reach trapped ship in Antarctica also stonewalled by ice
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3106159/posts


42 posted on 12/29/2013 4:07:52 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Thanks


43 posted on 12/29/2013 4:10:03 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301
In balmy 2C weather

Spend 3 weeks at -20C and +2C really DOES feel balmy I'll tell you what.

44 posted on 12/29/2013 4:18:32 PM PST by DManA
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To: fso301

at what point does the expanding ice crush the ship’s hull? - or does it?


45 posted on 12/29/2013 4:35:14 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: fso301

What the article refuses to say: The scientists aboard are there to study (prove) AGW, that the ice is melting & the climate warming.


46 posted on 12/29/2013 4:35:21 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: fso301
These "adventurers" need to pay for their own rescue.

If that were the norm, this crap and a lot more would just stop.

47 posted on 12/29/2013 4:46:06 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: elpadre
at what point does the expanding ice crush the ship’s hull? - or does it?

A number of posters have commented on this. As I understand it, the Akademik Shokalskiy is ice hardened and is probably capable of withstanding lateral pressures. However, now that it is dolphined on the ice, it is largely at the mercy of the elements. It moves with the ice.

It's still summer and it may be that even if it can't be freed immediately, in another two weeks, the ice will shift significantly and the crew can get her back to open sea. Then again maybe the ice won't break up and the crew will be faced with overwintering.

48 posted on 12/29/2013 5:00:01 PM PST by fso301
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To: elkfersupper
These "adventurers" need to pay for their own rescue.

The ship's owner will have to pay.

49 posted on 12/29/2013 5:01:17 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

good info - thanks


50 posted on 12/29/2013 5:03:11 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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