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US deal will trade off 'Jewish' Israel for 1967 lines -- report
Times of Israel ^ | 12/29/13 | Elhanan Miller

Posted on 12/29/2013 5:12:08 PM PST by Nachum

US Secretary of State John Kerry will offer Israeli and Palestinian negotiators a political trade-off: Israeli recognition of the 1967 lines as a basis for the future Palestinian state, in return for Palestinian recognition of Israel as the state of the Jewish people, Palestinian sources told the Saudi daily Al-Watan on Sunday.

According to the sources, the mutual recognition will constitute the core of a framework agreement to be signed by the end of January, and negotiated in greater detail during the following months.

"The coming weeks will be difficult for the Palestinian and Israeli sides, since they will need to make tough decisions,” a source told Al-Watan. “On the one hand, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will need to live with a text speaking of the 1967 borders, and the Palestinians, for their part, will need to live with a text speaking of Israel’s Jewishness.”

(Excerpt) Read more at timesofisrael.com ...


TOPICS: Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 1967borders; deal; israel; jewish; nsa; palestinians; secstatekerry; trade; turnaboutfairplay; waronterror
No deal.
1 posted on 12/29/2013 5:12:08 PM PST by Nachum
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2 posted on 12/29/2013 5:13:02 PM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

The Israeli’s would be stupid to fall for this, it would leave them in an untenable position they could not defend, they wouldn’t last a year.

John Kerry is an idiot traitor and brown nosing fool.


3 posted on 12/29/2013 5:15:35 PM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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To: Nachum

Israel to Kerry, “Nuts!”


4 posted on 12/29/2013 5:15:43 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Nachum

Yeah, the Israelis will really go for this. Kerry is a fool.


5 posted on 12/29/2013 5:16:51 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Nachum

Unreal.


6 posted on 12/29/2013 5:17:03 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Nachum

FU kerry.


7 posted on 12/29/2013 5:20:00 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Nachum

The war between Israel and the Palestinians will end...when the L-A-S-T day of our universe happens. Not one SECOND earlier. They are fighting over land. That is what people have been fighting over since there HAVE been humans.


8 posted on 12/29/2013 5:20:13 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Nachum

Palestinian recognition and promises are less than meaningless.

Nothing but another “land for genocide” deal


9 posted on 12/29/2013 5:20:27 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: beethovenfan
Yeah, the Israelis will really go for this. Kerry is a fool.

Yes, he is.

10 posted on 12/29/2013 5:21:30 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: All

LOL...so now we know why Obama was trying to throw in the sweetener ...Pollard.

Bend over people of Israel. But you can have Pollard.


11 posted on 12/29/2013 5:21:33 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Ted Cruz...2016-24 ...A New Conservative Era)
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To: GeronL

Palestinian promises are less than meaningless.

There are as meaningful as a promise from mac daddy.


12 posted on 12/29/2013 5:26:18 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: Nachum
The USA is offering Israel an opportunity to commit national suicide - Iran's nuke is going to do it quick enough - Kerry thinks he put on a modern holocaust before they are ready.
13 posted on 12/29/2013 5:27:36 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Nachum

Iffen they accept it, that is.

I mean, just how stupid can a country be?

(Oops—we re-elected who? Or is it what?)


14 posted on 12/29/2013 5:27:42 PM PST by Flintlock ( islam is a LIE, mohammed was a CRIMINAL, shira is POISON.)
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To: elpadre

“Iran’s nuke is going to do it quick enough..”

correction - “Iran’s nuke is NOT going to do it quick enough..”


15 posted on 12/29/2013 5:29:22 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Nachum

The United States is opposing God.
Again.


16 posted on 12/29/2013 5:31:14 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take? (guillotines?))
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To: elpadre

Netanyahu is not stupid enough to fall for this.

I’ll tell you this though, the forces of evil Islam are very strong in the Obama Admin.

It takes big balz to come back with the 67 lines, yet again.


17 posted on 12/29/2013 5:31:31 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Ted Cruz...2016-24 ...A New Conservative Era)
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To: Nachum

F’gettaboutit...


18 posted on 12/29/2013 5:33:02 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Nachum

Just say no!


19 posted on 12/29/2013 5:33:19 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Nachum

I hope Bibi tells that lib fairy Kerry to blow it out his ear. (Family site)


20 posted on 12/29/2013 5:33:35 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: rbmillerjr

The Palestinians will never recognize Isreal so its really a moot point.


21 posted on 12/29/2013 5:35:09 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: GeronL

As empty as a Palestinian’s promise


22 posted on 12/29/2013 5:37:42 PM PST by oldtech
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To: Nachum

So barbarous savages “recognize” something that already exists, and Israel is supposed to commit national suicide to get them to do that? What deranged madman would agree to such a thing?


23 posted on 12/29/2013 5:40:39 PM PST by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: Nachum

Land for war.... This is Kerry’s deal. A vainglorious oaf who has dreams of being in the history books for more than losing to Bush in 2004. He is half-Jewish via his grandparents and cannot wait to sell out Israel to the Muslims. He is the lowest of the low and should burn in hell...also for enabling Iran’s nuclear program so they can threaten Israel and Saudi Arabia our two allies.


24 posted on 12/29/2013 5:43:57 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: Nachum

Nice of Jean-Claude Kerry to trade off pieces of Israel to a bunch of terrorists.

After the Iran debacle, I’d tell this moron and his boss to get stuffed.


25 posted on 12/29/2013 5:45:52 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Nachum


26 posted on 12/29/2013 5:48:40 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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Nice, from the 666 Administration. Are they going to rebuild the temple for Barack also?


27 posted on 12/29/2013 5:50:58 PM PST by Rodm
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To: Nachum

Wonder if the Jews will be dumb enough or desperate enough to trust Lurch’s judgment. I wouldn’t. He is a gigantic egoist. His interest is in “making his mark” on history, not the well being of the state of Israel, or the Palestinians for that matter. If the American people didn’t trust him with their country, why should the Jews?


28 posted on 12/29/2013 5:54:24 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: Nachum

How many times has the US come up with this same wonderful new deal since, oh say , 1967? Isn’t it kind of like an annual suggestion/demand? Or did we skip a couple of years?


29 posted on 12/29/2013 6:10:50 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Nachum
Why not just get them to sign a suicide agreement?
30 posted on 12/29/2013 6:22:59 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the greediest, most corrupt, incompetent and murderous force on earth.)
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To: La Lydia

Israel just voted to put the Jordan Valley under full Israeli sovereignty. I am sure kerry peed his pants.

Ministers Approve Jordan Valley Annexation
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3106360/posts


31 posted on 12/29/2013 7:37:36 PM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: Nachum

So in return for the ‘Palis’ telling Israel ‘we recognize you’, Israel gives them all this pre-67 land?
What is to stop some future ‘Pali’ leader from taking back that declaration after the land is given back?


32 posted on 12/29/2013 8:31:52 PM PST by rawhide
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To: Nachum

One of the fondest memories I have over the last six years was the public ass-kicking the Clown got from Benjamin Netanyahu...while BOTH were sitting in the White House, in front of the press corps.

Bibi publicly and, at length, ripped the Clown and his team for suggesting that Israel go back to the 1967 borders. The Clown was shifting uncomfortably in his chair, clearly CLUELESS that this kind of response was in the offing...or, perhaps, shocked that his arrogance was getting this kind of dressing down by a leader of a foreign power. The Clown has never been challenged in such a strong public way except by a few brave Republicans (Ted Cruz comes to mind) and the Tea Party.

The media would NEVER challenge the Clown or his boss Valerie. And others who MIGHT timidly address his failures would do so behind closed doors.

Not Bibi. He nailed it.

great video of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAlJ6erL-HY


33 posted on 12/30/2013 12:49:04 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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The 1967 borders as a basis for negotiation has been the basis for negotiations since Oslo began. The borders have been negotiated twice, under two Presidents. In the end they were rejected by the Palestinians over their intolerance of the concept of a Jewish state, and their insistence on sending a few million Arabs into Israel. Kerry probably doesn't know this, he was in Washington all the time these things were going on.

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US deal will trade off ‘Jewish’ Israel for 1967 lines — report

34 posted on 12/30/2013 5:29:32 AM PST by SJackson (the Democrats take back control, we don’t make (this) kind of naked power grab, J Biden)
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35 posted on 12/30/2013 9:15:53 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Venturer

You seem to know what you are talking about ... so:

Can you explain it like I’m ten? What, exactly, is going on here?


36 posted on 12/30/2013 2:23:17 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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I believe this will explain it to you.

http://therightscoop.com/why-israel-cant-go-back-to-1967-lines/

I must say that John Kerry and Obama know this as well.
Either they don’t care or they wish Israel destroyed.


37 posted on 12/30/2013 4:44:03 PM PST by Venturer (Half Staff the Flag of the US for Terrorists.)
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