Skip to comments.National ID headed for your wallet, purse Homeland Security to require digital features in driver's
Posted on 12/30/2013 7:08:27 AM PST by Nachum
Just as you were wrapping your mind around the idea that under Obamacare and the accompanying changes in the health-care system, your medical records will be floating around in some online repository, available to far too many people, youre being told youll soon have a National Identity Card and a Western Hemisphere-compliant travel document whether you want it or not, if you plan to drive in the United States.
The federal government says it soon will be enforcing its demands that state-issued drivers licenses and ID cards comply with Department of Homeland Security standards.
DHS announced just before Christmas a final schedule for the full enforcement of the REAL ID Act of 2005.
That was set for a phased implementation beginning in January 2014 and full-scale enforcement planned no later than May 2017, at which time the federal government will no longer accept state-issued drivers licenses and ID cards that do not meet the minimum security standards set by DHS.
For many Americans, the full implementation of the REAL ID act is certain to trigger unfortunate memories of World War II and the modus operandi of fascist, totalitarian states, where travelers and ordinary citizens on the street are stopped by authorities and demanded, Your papers, please!
In the U.S., the justification for the REAL ID Act of 2005 was the concern for enhanced travel security after the 9/11 Commission documented several of the 9/11 terrorists had valid state-issued drivers licenses and were able to freely board airplanes even though they were terrorists who had entered the U.S. illegally.
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Wonder what the penalty would be for tampering with the digital card?
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The Gestapo DHS can suck it. As far as their bastard son, the TSA, they can suck it, too. I won’t be flying any more in my lifetime.
As far as I’m concerned, they are an invading army of ideological ogres doing the bidding of tyrants.
I’m sure they will also be requiring this for voter I.D. Yes?
Who does this idiot think he's kidding? LEOs ALREADY do this and have done so for years, only the exact wording is now: "Licence, Registration, and Proof Of Insurance" sung in a particular monotomic cadence.
Let Me take a guess: he only bicycles to and fro to places or at the most takes public transportation anywhere he goes.
No, that would be voter intimidation. The card will be required for everything else.
And they STILL won’t require folks to show it when voting...
Or they’ll issue it to Invading Barbarians, no question asked.
I have NO problem with this. Many states have been far too lax when it comes to drivers licenses. In addition, it would disqualify any state that allows drivers licenses for illegals to have that state’s license accepted as proper identification for domestic air travel. Then let’s see those who favor illegals bitch when they can’t get on a domestic flight without a passport.
Texas drivers licenses have been compliant for years. The debate here at the time focused more on the unfunded mandate issue, but all the hardware is now in place.
Does this mean that illegal aliens such as Barry Soetoro will be deported?
“I wont be flying any more in my lifetime.”
Never mind the wide open borders and that little thing about 400 MANPADS and other shoulder launch missiles that mysteriously came up missing from the CIA compound in Benghazi after the 9-11 attacks.
Those Surface-to-Air missiles were Obama’s contribution to the Al-Qaeda-backed Syrian Muslims in Syria.
That man is a jihadist Muslim, period. Nothing he says, does or promises does not contain an ulterior purpose that does not include the destruction of this country and the advancement of radical Islam - NOTHING.
However, with the easy availability of cameras and accurate OCR, those strips are old info. Just snap a picture of the front of the ID and the name, address, license number, etc. can be read and cross checked against the state database. The point I will get worried is when they start requiring RFID so that your license can be "checked" without you ever knowing it has been scanned.
Except for voting. It would be racis to use them for voting.
check your current DL it may already meet many of these ‘requirements’. Folks tried to get the GOPelite congress to not pass this travesty. We did not succeed
Washington state has holograms imbedded. I saw how they worked at an airport. The TSA person shines a spectrum light on the DL and the holograms bloom. Can’t print those in there since they’re invisible until lighted up.
well if you have a driver’s license and desire to continue driving you will have to have your birth certificate and a verifiable social security number. If you live in one of the 21 states that have already complied it has already happened to you.
You will not be able to ‘prove’ who you are so you will not be hired or given medical care or anything else.
If you want to avoid all of this I hope you live on the land far from an urban center and are skilled in 19th century farming techniques
I could live with a national ID if it meant we could get invaders out of the US, and keep them out.
Except of course that your passport would have all of the information in it that your Real ID would have...
Banned sale of magnets to ensue.
Ya think ObamaCare-approved Gestapo doctors will be putting tracking microchips in injections instead of ID numbers tattooed on We The People’s wrists??
If they went to Syria, why are Syrian jets and choppers not falling out of the sky like rain?
BTW, went to Barrankas National Cemetery yesterday and the entrance to Pensacola NAS was now configured with a single line maze style configuration to get in and not as radical but still one lane “managed” exit. Also, starting today, it will take two forms of ID to get onto the base.
I have never seen security this high since right after 911. Something is up.
MY state does not require a driver’s license that contains ones social security number. You can specifically require that it does not contain it and the number assigned is different. Mine does not. And it is free, to boot because I am a Georgia-inducted veteran.
Driving in Georgia is a privilege afforded to Georgia citizens by the State - not the f@cking federal government.
I don’t need to ‘prove’ who I am. Georgia knows.
You may be willing to relent to an oppressive government but I am not.
I have it on good authority that all of the terrorists had fully functioning, unrestricted, unregulated, feet and legs. This allowed them to move about communities AND airports at will. Is the solution to shackle everyone and only allow the TSA to unlock people who can demonstrate they have no nefarious intent with all this unmonitored walking-around?
I can think of thousands of ways to prevent the attacks on 911 with the powers of a police state, but that's no the country we live in. This crap has GOT to stop.
Wrong. I live in Georgia too and when I renewed my license I had to show my social security card AND my birth certificate. All new licenses require the same and the DDS site actually touts its compliance with the Real ID act.
Nice try though
What can stop this cold in its track is to require these IDs be presented when registering to vote.
Ky. is one of the states not compliant with the ID law. The Feds just gave a grant a few years ago and the money was for a new courthouse, when I got a new license and noticed they used a biometeric camera, I asked if that was what it was and was told yes. I asked what else I could do was told if wanted license had to have a biometeric pic. I did so, now I know why.
The Fed money also paid for the courthouse and installed cameras that cover every inch of our small town. Once they have the biometeric shot of you they can pick you out of a crowd and follow you anywhere you go.
Got stopped at a road block recently. Asked for my ID told them as far as I knew he couldn’t unless I was suspected of a crime. And further I told him this was the first roadblock I had seen in 30 years. He said it was a safety check. I said bullsh1t, you know what this is. Then I asked who sent him here, he told me the Feds, he was a county cop. He was embarrassed. Here’s my ID, I aint got time for this bullsh1t, I told him.
Pure intimidation, I knew this was coming when I saw the camera behind 2 inches of bulletproof glass, he who pays the piper calls the tune. They are not even hiding it here. Good Luck in your town.
We are far from done anywhere in the middle east with respect to SAMs (MANPADs). And there have been choppers shot down with them. Just not in the numbers you expect.
With respect to CONUS military installations, I find it rather wry that they expect the worst of terrorist action, yet their surrounding civilian populations (and government) are not so concerned. Terrorist havoc in this country has always heretofore been largely aimed at the civilians save one or two examples.
I find it absurdly and ghoulishly comical that these installations go through all the machinations of stopping legitimate interaction in and around its confines, only to completely disarm its trained inhabitants.
You are misleading everyone at best. Requiring a BC and SSAn doesn’t imply you have a proper federal government-approved digital ID (as the premise of this thread indicates). Not even one iota.
Georgia is requiring you to prove you are not a friggin illegal alien. And I dare you to tell me that Georgia does not allow you to opt out of having your Social Security number being used as a driver’s license number.
Nice try though
Simple piece of aluminum foil, 2X the size of the license. Fold once. Problem solved.
If we are stuck with this damned thing, then let’s get states to REQUIRE the fed ID to vote in an election...if we can’t stop it, at least turn their own weapon back on them.
“Sorry, officer, I have to unwrap the tin foil I have wrapped around the government snoop card.”
You all can KMA.. My Pennsylvania state ID has been good enough for many decades and it is still good enough now.
Drivers licenses are issued by the state. DHS, federal government should have no say in the matter.
I doubt that will completely stop all signals, but rather just attenuate them by a certain amount thus shortening the range at which it can be detected. Maybe you can shorten the range enough so that they have to be inside your pocket to detect it in your wallet. I would rather have something like a small drill and a drop of acid to kill the RFID chip or antenna.
So many things for the Tea Party to tear down, and quickly, after the mid-terms.
The best bet is probably for a conservative controlled House and Senate to change the budget from top-down to bottom-up.
That is, to require constitutional authority for all agencies for their very existence. Unless it is there, the assumption should be that they get NO funding, at all, except for nominal shut down costs.
If they are constitutionally authorized, then each agency will be reviewed and only its constitutional parts approved, skeletonizing those parts acting without authority.
Then, the temporary funding of those unconstitutional parts that would cause a public disaster or unconscionable harm unless they were wound down or replaced.
Enabling acts for the dismissal of “surplus” government employees, as well as defining what, if any, benefits they can keep.
Then separate those agencies that end or are severely downgraded as separate budget bills. Send them to Obama to veto or not, which doesn’t matter, because either way they are effectively unfunded. Give him at least the opportunity to claim credit for ending them.
I don’t suppose these cards will be used for voting??
Isn’t this racist?
And anyone who can't produce a valid ID will be deported to their country of origin. / bitter sarc
With respect to what I expect, it is not about me but if I am in a combat zone and the enemy is pounding the crap out of us from the sky and my side has 400 Stingers, or a derivative thereof, and knowing my resource of weapons is in far greater numbers than their fixed wing resources, you figure it out. Once the cap is gone, then so is the protection for the rotary wing. The Afghans and Iraqi insurgents are awfully good at bringing down our choppers with their grenade launchers.
They’re so afraid to admit that the USA has a national ID card, that everyone is required to carry around.
It’s the driver’s license.
Admit it. We’re just like the European countries.
I have no problem with a compulsory national ID, provided that it applies exactly the same way to everyone, and that the the democrat’s favorite new voting group, illegal immigrants, can’t get one.
True irony in that, isn’t there.
I don’t know. I thought the same thing, but it appears the DL must have an RFID chip? I don’t think my DL is chipped and I just got a TDL 6 months ago.
That’s not how it works...
The way it works is, rather than address threats to national security through force and resolve, you create a hysteria that induces the sheep to bleat for safety and respond to it by restricting their liberty.
As soon as the feds wave money, most states salivate and ask how high they should jump...
Finally - a use for aluminum foil that has nothing to do with hats.
“Im sure they will also be requiring this for voter I.D. Yes?”
Make it a requirement that either voter ID is part of that card or it is DOA.
Let the rats talk their way out of that.