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ObamaCare’s latest whopper (Here come the Deathpanels)
NY Post ^ | Jan 1, 2014 | Betsy McCaughey

Posted on 01/01/2014 3:40:53 PM PST by Innovative

In 2013, the American people learned what whoppers the key promises of ObamaCare turned out to be. But the biggest whopper about the Affordable Care Act is yet to be exposed: the tightening grip the federal government will have over your doctor — even if you’re paying with private insurance.

Section 1311(h)(1)(B) of the health law gives the secretary of Health and Human Services blanket authority to dictate how doctors treat patients. Not just patients in government programs like Medicare and Medicaid, but patients with private plans they pay for themselves. On Dec. 2, 2013, we learned from the Federal Register that the rules are now being written. Starting in 2015, insurance companies will be barred from doing business with doctors who fail to comply.

Obama’s nominee to run the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), Dr. Donald Berwick, also insisted the federal government must step in between doctors and their patients to curb and redistribute the use of medical resources. Berwick said resources should be allocated based on “important subgroups.” These groups, rather than the individual patient in the doctor’s office, he said, should be the “unit of concern.”

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; abortion; berwick; crappycare; deathpanels; democrats; doctorsofthestate; donaldberwick; emanuel; ezekielemanuel; healthcare; healthcaretyranny; healthtcareyranny; healthtyranny; hippocraticoath; marxistcare; obama; obamacare; obamacaredoctors; rationedcare; rationing; sarahpalinwasright; socializedmedicine; socialjustice; statedoctors; zerocare
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Here come the deathpanels... the government will decide whether or not you are "worthy" for treatment and what kind...
1 posted on 01/01/2014 3:40:54 PM PST by Innovative
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To: Innovative; onyx

2 posted on 01/01/2014 3:47:27 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: Innovative

And everyone thought that Sarah Palin girl was crazy. She is a smart cookie.


3 posted on 01/01/2014 3:49:31 PM PST by oust the louse (The Democratic Party might as well be called the Death Party. Abortion & ObamaCare/death panels.)
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To: Innovative

It will be warmly received by America’s youts when they find out how helpful the Death Panels are for SocSec and Medicare financials. If there’s any grousing about granny’s premature demise, the regime will send out some Groupons for student loan relief.


4 posted on 01/01/2014 3:50:07 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: Innovative
Berwick said resources should be allocated based on “important subgroups.” These groups, rather than the individual patient in the doctor’s office, he said, should be the “unit of concern.”

Demonstrating yet again the mindless stupidity that is liberalism.

5 posted on 01/01/2014 3:50:58 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Republican Wildcat

Not stupid. Just evil.


6 posted on 01/01/2014 3:52:49 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: oust the louse

And good looking, too.


7 posted on 01/01/2014 3:53:22 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: Innovative

B T T


8 posted on 01/01/2014 3:53:51 PM PST by GirlShortstop (Every person has a duty to seek and serve the truth. Abp Charles J. Chaput, OFMCap)
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To: Innovative

Always a relevant read on this subject:

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052970203706604574374463280098676

Obama’s Health Rationer-in-Chief
White House health-care adviser Ezekiel Emanuel blames the Hippocratic Oath for the ‘overuse’ of medical care.


9 posted on 01/01/2014 3:55:56 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Innovative

i have a mother 78 years old with alzheimer’s disease, vascular dementia and brain atrophy. just wonder what else they will cut from her care - MRI’s and CAT scans have been eliminated. just wonder if they will eliminate the namenda and aricept. but mother states if that little son of a ...... gets his way, there will blood on his hands. she is ready to be with the Lord.


10 posted on 01/01/2014 3:57:23 PM PST by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: Innovative

There is no reason for health care rationing. No reason at all. What this really is, is genocide masked as “healthcare”.

It is up to all of us. Are we so subdued we will accept this fate? Sickening.

Sad, I believe we are.


11 posted on 01/01/2014 3:58:00 PM PST by dforest
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To: oust the louse

Smart AND beautiful!

My kind of woman!


12 posted on 01/01/2014 4:00:40 PM PST by rfreedom4u (Your feelings don't trump my free speech!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This does bring up so interesting thought to me, an older guy.

If I know before hand that my medical treatment will be with held only because of my age and therefore I will not live as long as a younger person with the same problems why should I worry about a long imprisonment or legal penalty for doing something wrong?

This question would apply to all crimes. Would I not be angry at some one or a group of people for condemning me to death at an earlier age? The irony of it would be that I would never pay the price for the crime because by their call I would be dead. Even if imprisoned for a shot time at the end of my life while going through the process of dieing, it would put the burden of medical care, meals, clothing, rent, and utilities on the government. I would have very little to loose my family would be better off too.

This is a very interesting position to put a person in. If I had great credit why not borrow as much as I can get, disperse all my assets to the people I want to have them and then default on debt or just die with nothing left?

This obama care thing is giving older folks something to think about.

13 posted on 01/01/2014 4:03:49 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: oust the louse
"If you want your life you can keep your life ... PERIOD!"
14 posted on 01/01/2014 4:10:25 PM PST by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: Republican Wildcat

Agreed


15 posted on 01/01/2014 4:13:51 PM PST by Richard from IL
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To: Innovative
Starting in 2015, insurance companies will be barred from doing business with doctors who fail to comply.

Right here in the land of the free. Just damn.

16 posted on 01/01/2014 4:15:16 PM PST by Principled
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To: Innovative

Fascism is Obama.


17 posted on 01/01/2014 4:15:51 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Innovative

18 posted on 01/01/2014 4:16:45 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: hondact200

” but mother states if that little son of a ...... gets his way, there will blood on his hands. “

There already is. Bless your mom.


19 posted on 01/01/2014 4:17:00 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: oldenuff2no

God is still on the throne. Try not to think like that.


20 posted on 01/01/2014 4:17:00 PM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: Innovative; All

So many things in this country can go either way with a motivated enough group of people.


21 posted on 01/01/2014 4:19:15 PM PST by j.argese (Not anymore!)
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To: oldenuff2no

22 posted on 01/01/2014 4:21:51 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Innovative

Bm


23 posted on 01/01/2014 4:23:56 PM PST by Vision (Tune out, drop back)
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To: dforest
There is no reason for health care rationing

All things are rationed. Some by price, others by govt decree. There are limits on the economic availability of health care just like there are limits on the number of Lexus and Mercedes automobiles the population can afford. Obamacare changes the rationing from price to govt decree so as to reward the regime supporters.

24 posted on 01/01/2014 4:24:14 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: Black Agnes

There are plenty of them who actually think that makes sense.


25 posted on 01/01/2014 4:24:19 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: j.argese

Well, that’s just it. The group against all of this nonsense will not get motivated enough to do anything and everything that needs to be done to preserve our freedoms. I suspect a lot of otherwise healthy conservatives will be handed over to a death panel not of their choosing.


26 posted on 01/01/2014 4:24:54 PM PST by CatOwner
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To: oldenuff2no

It's coming.

27 posted on 01/01/2014 4:24:57 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: nascarnation

But when you make the resources artificially more finite...


28 posted on 01/01/2014 4:25:27 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep.


29 posted on 01/01/2014 4:27:49 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Republican Wildcat
The liberals know what Subgroups mean. What will they say
when they're not in charge anymore and they get to DIE first.
30 posted on 01/01/2014 4:28:09 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: nascarnation

Not the kind of rationing Obamacare intends. Do not believe you will be one to get good treatment. You won’t be. They know how you vote.


31 posted on 01/01/2014 4:28:18 PM PST by dforest
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To: Republican Wildcat

Again that is to reward the regime supporters.
But the fundamental premise still holds.
Our country is fiscally broke and we are spending hundreds of billions per year of fake money on medical care.
It truly cannot persist.


32 posted on 01/01/2014 4:28:21 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: dforest

I have had 2 operations, 39 days of radiation, etc for cancer in the last 18 months. I know my time is limited.


33 posted on 01/01/2014 4:29:48 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: nascarnation

We spend hundreds of billion dollars a year on all kinds of crap. So what?


34 posted on 01/01/2014 4:30:13 PM PST by dforest
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To: nascarnation
If there’s any grousing about granny’s premature demise, the regime will send out some Groupons for student loan relief.

That's as cynical as it is succinct!

35 posted on 01/01/2014 4:31:42 PM PST by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Principled
Obama’s nominee to run the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), Dr. Donald Berwick, also insisted the federal government must step in between doctors and their patients to curb and redistribute the use of medical resources. Berwick said resources should be allocated based on "important subgroups." These groups, rather than the individual patient in the doctor’s office, he said, should be the “unit of concern.”

Who determines who belongs to “important subgroups”?

This country has become a nightmare.

36 posted on 01/01/2014 4:31:42 PM PST by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: Innovative
Berwick said resources should be allocated based on “important subgroups.” These groups, rather than the individual patient in the doctor’s office, he said, should be the “unit of concern.”

Yeah, let's quit wasting our valuable medical resources on old white people, it's counter productive.

the sooner they die, the sooner we can tax their estate and get our hands on that money they have been hoarding. /s

37 posted on 01/01/2014 4:32:06 PM PST by oldbrowser
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To: nascarnation

I am very sorry to hear that. I am also sad that Obamacare will not be kind to any of us.

I hope and pray you will recover, I really do. In truth, all of our time on earth is limited.


38 posted on 01/01/2014 4:33:12 PM PST by dforest
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To: dforest
So what?

You might think buying jet fighters is important. The folks who "won" the election think EBT and Medicaid is important. We can debate priorities but it doesn't change the fact we are fundamentally broke.

39 posted on 01/01/2014 4:34:24 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: dforest

I’ve had superb medical care so far (Medicare + Supplemental policy). I’m one of the “lucky” ones who got back more from Medicare the first year than I paid in for 42 yrs LOL.


40 posted on 01/01/2014 4:38:18 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: nascarnation

That is my point. So why cut back on healthcare with our fake money? It is all fake anyway.


41 posted on 01/01/2014 4:38:22 PM PST by dforest
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To: Innovative

I anticipate many a government burrocrat being hunted down


42 posted on 01/01/2014 4:38:51 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: Innovative

“We know what’s best for you & the collective”


43 posted on 01/01/2014 4:40:33 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Innovative

44 posted on 01/01/2014 4:40:48 PM PST by matt1234 (Hitler blamed the Jews. Obama blames the Tea Party.)
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To: dforest

I guess I’m more of a Dave Stockman type, wanting to apply the brakes and try for a panic stop rather than going over the cliff at full throttle.

But I understand your thinking. And the implosion has taken far longer to occur than I expected. Who knows how long Tim, Ben, and now Janet can run the table.


45 posted on 01/01/2014 4:42:38 PM PST by nascarnation (Wish everyone see a "Gay Kwanzaa")
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To: oldbrowser

Rush Limbaugh has a good assessment on his site too:

The Obamacare Death Panels Have Arrived _- Nov 4, 2013

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/11/04/the_obamacare_death_panels_have_arrived

“A woman stood up — I’ve never forgotten this, and I never will — and asked the president of the United States if her 93-year-old mother could get a pacemaker because of her will to live, her spirit. Obama said, “Nah, we can’t calculate spirit and will to live into these kinds of decisions. At some point we’re all gonna have to realize that maybe the answer is give them a pain pill and forgo any more surgery and just ease them for the rest of their lives.”


46 posted on 01/01/2014 4:43:12 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, Obamacare’s Dr. Mengele.


47 posted on 01/01/2014 4:44:17 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’d say the only thing is, those death panels aren’t going to be the kind before which you’ll be able to stand and make your case. The policy’s going to be written by committee, implemented by another committee and you’ll find out about the decision as a done deal. You can sue, I suppose. I don’t think it’s going to be any more fun suing the government and/or the insurance companies than it is now.


48 posted on 01/01/2014 4:45:04 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: nascarnation

FRiend, I will say a prayer for you.


49 posted on 01/01/2014 4:45:49 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: dforest

There will be health care rationing. The only question is who will do it? The government, the insurance companies, or the patient?


50 posted on 01/01/2014 4:46:24 PM PST by kabar
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