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Obamacare needs more enrollees to work well
Washington Post ^ | January 1. 2014 | Editorial Board

Posted on 01/02/2014 1:36:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

".....................Halfway through the open-enrollment period, it’s past time for a sustained publicity blitz.

Outreach can’t end once people leave HealthCare.gov. As more people enter the health-care system, there will be confusion. Some might make more frequent (and expensive) visits to the emergency room rather than get a primary-care doctor. Still others might think they have coverage when they do not, perhaps because they failed to pay their insurers or because a computer bug mangled their applications . And those who have to pay more for insurance or take a cut in benefits — not everyone will win in a coverage expansion of this size — will be angry.

Through all this, observers should keep calm. The Obama administration’s success at tackling many of the tasks ahead won’t be clear for months, once the open-enrollment period ends and more numbers start coming in.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: aca; obamacare

1 posted on 01/02/2014 1:36:36 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Guess what, even sheeple will get angry at this when they see it getting worse all around.


2 posted on 01/02/2014 1:38:01 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
This WaPo blog post is linked in the Editorial posted above.

Washington Post: The “wingnut hole” measured: 5 million without insurance thanks to GOP refusal

3 posted on 01/02/2014 1:41:19 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yeah,
Walmart, K-mart, Target etc etc all need more customers to work well.
They all probably will because they don't have a community organizer running them. If they can survive the economy the community organizer has thrown at them.
4 posted on 01/02/2014 1:41:33 AM PST by DeaconRed (ZERO: We made a -Big Mistaka- Lets send him to Jamaica -NOW! ! ! !)
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To: DeaconRed; All
TDC: Professor blames ‘southern white radicals’ for Obamacare debacle "A professor who teaches constitutional law courses at the City University of New York’s John Jay College of Criminal Justice penned a Christmas Day essay blaming “southern White radicals” for the disastrous, slow-motion train wreck failure that has been the rollout of the Affordable Care Act.

The essay, by Gloria J. Browne-Marshall at the website Politics in Color, is entitled “2013: A Year of Racial Challenges.”

“[S]outhern White radicals vowed to stop implementation of the Obama-care law leading one to wonder if Tea Party members would oppose affordable healthcare if it came from a nonBlack [sic] President,” writes Browne-Marshall..............."

5 posted on 01/02/2014 1:46:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It won't ever work well.

It may work as Obama and the Democrats intended, but it will never work well.

It may even seem to work fiscally, because they are dumping a few million more on Medicaid to keep subsidy costs lower, but it will never work well.

This government will dissemble, mislead and inflate the numbers of 'enrollees' as well as hiding the millions more new Medicaid recipients right on through the 2014 elections and, if they can contain that fat lady's bustle, through the 2016 elections.

There are three absolutes one can count on for 2014: 1) the government will lie about it, 2) the media will help them, and 3) Obama will blame everyone but himself. Universal idioms.

6 posted on 01/02/2014 1:49:05 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Another black Marxist moron on parade.


7 posted on 01/02/2014 1:50:16 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

More needed to enroll. Setting an example for all, the representatives sent to serve, will all enroll.


8 posted on 01/02/2014 1:50:30 AM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Because it is no different than SS ... people pay in a lot and the gummint doles out a small bit.


9 posted on 01/02/2014 1:52:59 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It is going to fail, the prices are too high!


10 posted on 01/02/2014 1:55:39 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We are a society running on automatic for the most part. Over the next hundred days...some folks will appear at the doctor’s office for their regular six-month appointment, and be told that their old policy is gone, their new policy is in effect, and that this doctor doesn’t honor this type of policy....so you either pay in cash or leave the premises.

You can imagine the shock....day after day....week after week...thousands by March come to discover that things aren’t the same old way they were for the past decade.

So they start to look for the doctors who will honor this bronze policy, and discover that this doctor is very aware of the deductible business, and he wants a check or credit card put down in ‘good faith’ by the “customer” (forget the term patient for the next year or two).

You’d get awful upset....having to put down $300 to show your faith on this deductible business, then you discover that with the lab stuff, and additional visit later...this one problem will cost you $2,100. So that measly $300 was nothing but the start of a financial drain on your life. Now you have to find $1,800 or charge that to your credit card, or ask the bank for a loan (they will laugh over that but easily give you a nine-percent loan for one stupid visit to the doctor).

By mid-summer, a family of four will owe $4,500 from these bronze-plan episodes. Dad will turn back to the 2012 policy that he had, and realize now that it was $1,500 then. The strategy change for late fall 2014? A bunch of folks will think low-deductible will be the way to go and they all sign up for massive $11,000 a year health plans, with a $1,500 deductible. Course, you know the story....they dig themselves deeper into debt.

And the administration? They will sit and wonder why they never took business classes in college, and why they never had a single business expert on the Presidential staff.


11 posted on 01/02/2014 1:57:26 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: fortheDeclaration
This is going to be a rough year for the Administration. They are complaining that all the examples of people getting screwed with their program are anecdotal, but that is what makes up the news.

We will continue to see a long line of people like the lady in another thread who can't see how she can pay for her new medical care, and one of her kids can't get enrolled at all.

This won't get any better. It is going to get worse next fall when the details of the employer based plans for 2015 hit is the streets. This is already hitting smaller business. My brother works for a tech start up, less than 50 employees. They had a great, high deductible, HSA plan where the employer seeded the HSA. For most people they would end up paying annual family premiums of $2400. If somebody got significantly sick, the total out of pocket for the employee would be $4400 ($2400 premiums+$2000 of the deductible not picked up by the employer). Who wouldn't want a plan like that? That plan no longer exists due to Obamacare. His company is having to come up with an extra $160,000 in employer costs and the employee costs have doubled.

12 posted on 01/02/2014 2:17:14 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Zerocare will Not get better, only much much worse. Those Democrats who
supported this debacle are hiding and squirming in dark corners trying
to avoid any truth about their support and epic failure to properly inform
themselves and the public about the true nature of this overthrow of 1/6
of the Freedoms Americans used to enjoy.

And the Republicans are sporadically trying to actually offer Fixes for
the Zerocare that absolutely will not work in a free society without being
forced at the end of the Assault Weapons the left so much despise, unless those
guns are being used for their Agenda.

Our Government on both sides will never admit failure which is why it's
up to the Citizens to realize once again that WE The People have the ultimate power
and must exercise that power before it's taken away by the Tyrannical dictatorship
elected in both the Republicans and Democrat houses. They need to know who they work for!

13 posted on 01/02/2014 2:26:55 AM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: pepsionice; USNBandit; All
Feds' website gives states incomplete Medicaid data ".....The technical problem could affect tens of thousands of Medicaid applicants and represents the latest issue to arise in the rollout of a website that’s been plagued with long waits for users and other glitches.

Some users who fill out applications on the federal site may believe that they’re already being enrolled in Medicaid or that state officials will contact them, even though the agencies aren’t receiving the information they need, said Matt Salo, executive director of the National Association of Medicaid Directors. The data transfer problem is occurring in the 36 states where the federal site is deployed, regardless of whether they chose to expand Medicaid.

“Essentially, if you’re a consumer on healthcare.gov, it will tell you you’re eligible for Medicaid and the state agency will take care of it, but there’s no real way for the state Medicaid agency to know anything about it,” said Salo, who leads the nonpartisan membership group for state Medicaid chiefs....."

14 posted on 01/02/2014 2:27:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
needs more enrollees to work well...

This is like the fat guy stuck in a water slide, in need of sending down a handful of slim people to unplug the clog.

The likely result of this?


15 posted on 01/02/2014 2:29:21 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

OMG how do you pack so miuch stupid into one article?

This libtard blames the GOP for Obamacare failure, because GOP-controlled states (which tend to be ‘poorer’) refused to set up Obamacare in their states (or something- the stupid was too strong to comprehend)

The idiot GOP party needs to stomp on this “GOP is to blame” meme with both feet. The Dems got EVERYTHING they wanted- The GOP tried to STOP this train wreck from happening.


16 posted on 01/02/2014 2:40:56 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Just wait for the stories about not just Grandma and Grandpa ‘passing on’ but Mom and Dad’s insurance wasn’t ‘good enough’ and they died from ‘whatever’ and then little Johnnie and Mary found out that the house they were living in with them now belongs to the Government and they must now leave.

Oh yes, forget any ‘collectibles’ going with you because the tax man and probate already took them so as to pay for the ‘Insurance’ that wasn’t good enough and ended up letting Mom and Dad die because the ‘Death Panel’ said they weren’t good enough ‘productive citizens’.

The sheeple will put up with nickel and diming them as long as the bite is small. But losing loved ones and the ‘inheritance’ too? I think a lot of squishy democrats will be getting their mugging and turning into conservatives.

Why? Well they all don’t live in crime infested cities or behind the walls of gated communities. But they all have parents and the effects of Obamacare will slam them in the face when it effects them and their loved ones let them know all about it before they ‘pass on’.


17 posted on 01/02/2014 2:44:43 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: C210N

Very funny.

Thanks.

:)


18 posted on 01/02/2014 2:45:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Obamacare needs more enrollees to work well

It doesn't matter. The government will just dig deeper into the pockets of all taxpayers and declare victory.

19 posted on 01/02/2014 3:03:15 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

....just forget the fact that 70% of the American citizen NEVER WANTED IT AND DON’T WANT IT NOW...it’s a ponzi scheme ran by a Marxist Muslim who can’t tell the truth. What could possibly go wrong?


20 posted on 01/02/2014 3:08:09 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: USNBandit
None of these guys know how free market works, they never held a job or created a business.

Yet, they think they can 'sell' a product no one wants for a price that is too high!

It is quite mind boggling to think that they actually believe they can!

They think they are going to make an appeal to the young healthy people and have them willingly pay higher prices to subsidze others

That is how Sen. Harkin was defending forcing single men to carry insurance for pregnancy!

21 posted on 01/02/2014 3:12:22 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Lots of wishful thinking in this drivel...


22 posted on 01/02/2014 3:14:54 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Talking point of the week apparently...it’s all the Republican’s fault for not going along with the Ponzi scheme.


23 posted on 01/02/2014 3:16:22 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: USNBandit
We will continue to see a long line of people like the lady in another thread who can't see how she can pay for her new medical care, and one of her kids can't get enrolled at all.

And just wait till they start issuing orders to the doctors to match client with the care required....and prescriptions....don't forget all those complex prescription orders.

I see not just amputations on the wrong limb....but on the wrong patient.

.....and how it works in the UK under the government run single player scheme:

130,000 elderly patients killed every year by ‘death pathway’, claims leading UK doctor

by Thaddeus Baklinski Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:02 EST Tags: euthanasia, patrick pullicino, uk

LONDON, June 21, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - An eminent British doctor told a meeting of the Royal Society of Medicine in London that every year 130,000 elderly patients that die while under the care of the National Health Service (NHS) have been effectively euthanized by being put on the controversial Liverpool Care Pathway (LCP), a protocol for care of the terminally ill that he described as a “death pathway.”

Scaled up to the size of the US population (X6) gives over 750,000 euthanizing events a year.

24 posted on 01/02/2014 3:36:02 AM PST by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sure, keep fund raising the insanity... who needs Bin Laden demanding reparations when we got excuses like this.


25 posted on 01/02/2014 3:41:45 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: fortheDeclaration

Well duh.. no insurance can work if it does not have a pool of investors and a basket of participants... except this time it is the people’s health maddof ponzy scheme where the freeloader gets to waste the funds and hospitals.


26 posted on 01/02/2014 3:44:28 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: lavaroise

Only a Socialist would think otherwise!


27 posted on 01/02/2014 3:49:10 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

When all of the prescription anti depressants and major tranqs start to run out, elected officials will need to beef up their security details. Want to see someone snap? Tell them them they can’t have their drugs. Those would be otherwise reasonable people. Wait til the subsidized set can’t get their meds.


28 posted on 01/02/2014 3:51:03 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Through all this, observers should keep calm. The Obama administration’s success at tackling many of the tasks ahead won’t be clear for months, once the open-enrollment period ends and more numbers start coming in.

The Kool-Aid flows deep on the Washington Post editorial page. Obamacare isn't even supposed to "work well". It's supposed to smash the US health care system to smithereens. (If you don't like your tumor, you still have to keep your tumor.)

29 posted on 01/02/2014 3:58:25 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Mr. K

Yes, people need to remember that not a single republican voted for this force fed s*** sandwich. This is an entirely owned democrat debacle.


30 posted on 01/02/2014 5:23:15 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Graybeard58

People need to be reminded not JUST is [Obamacare] a 100% Democrat creation, But the GOP -mostly the TEA party- TRIED TO WARN TH?EM about what a disaster it was going to be.


31 posted on 01/02/2014 8:46:15 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: Mr. K
The reason GOP governors elected out of the Medicaid expansion is that the Feds only cover people brought in under he expansion. Any people that apply and fall under the old Medicaid guidelines are the responsibility of the state.

In WA state 60,000 of the 170,000 enrollees qualified for standard Medicaid, 70,000 for the expansion. That 60,000 is going to put huge pressures on the state system.

32 posted on 01/02/2014 12:22:12 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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