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NSA seeks to build quantum computer that could crack most types of encryption
The Washington Post ^ | January 2, 2014 | Steve Rich

Posted on 01/02/2014 1:42:59 PM PST by Biggirl

In room-size metal boxes, secure against electromagnetic leaks, the National Security Agency is racing to build a computer that could break nearly every kind of encryption used to protect banking, medical, business and government records around the world.

According to documents provided by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, the effort to build “a cryptologically useful quantum computer” — a machine exponentially faster than classical computers — is part of a $79.7 million research program titled, “Penetrating Hard Targets.” Much of the work is hosted under classified contracts at a laboratory in College Park.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dc; nsa; nsascandals; nsaspying; policestate; snowden

1 posted on 01/02/2014 1:42:59 PM PST by Biggirl
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To: null and void

Ping.


2 posted on 01/02/2014 1:43:40 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Biggirl

Reminds me of the scene from the movie, “Sneakers.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5bAa6gFvLs


3 posted on 01/02/2014 1:44:52 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Biggirl
Just on the off-chance there is one single fact unknown about the domestic population.

I wish I could root for the NSA, I really do, but they have become the Orwellian enemy.

4 posted on 01/02/2014 1:46:23 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Biggirl

I feel safer already.


5 posted on 01/02/2014 1:48:09 PM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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To: Lazamataz
NSA already has root.

/johnny

6 posted on 01/02/2014 1:49:01 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Black Agnes

It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m..........


7 posted on 01/02/2014 1:49:51 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Biggirl

So World War 2 message delivery messages are now the cutting edge of private communications.


8 posted on 01/02/2014 1:52:00 PM PST by tbw2
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To: Biggirl

One-time cipher pads are still pretty safe so long as you just use them once.


9 posted on 01/02/2014 1:52:15 PM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: Biggirl
Our Marxist government is out to make slaves of us. There is absolutely no other explanation for this insanity. Edward Snowden is a hero. Every freedom-loving American should DEMAND that Mr. Snowden be welcomed home and absolved of all criminal charges.

Note to Rep. Peter King: You are dead wrong on this issue, and the Marxists will be coming after you as soon as they are through using you.

10 posted on 01/02/2014 1:54:02 PM PST by July4
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To: F15Eagle

EST or GMT?


11 posted on 01/02/2014 2:05:25 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: MeganC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-time_pad


12 posted on 01/02/2014 2:08:23 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: Biggirl
“Quantum computers are extremely delicate, so if you don’t protect them from their environment, then the computation will be useless,"

Sounds like our uninformed voters. Or The One.

13 posted on 01/02/2014 2:08:51 PM PST by polymuser
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To: polymuser
That quantum computer, however, would never be useful for breaking public key encryption like RSA.
That statement is a clear indication that the reporter didn't understand a single word of what he'd been told.
14 posted on 01/02/2014 2:10:26 PM PST by jdege
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To: Biggirl
The Puzzle Palace: Inside the National Security Agency, America's Most Secret Intelligence Organization by James Bamford mandate: 5 years ahead of the street technology
15 posted on 01/02/2014 2:15:05 PM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: Biggirl

They at the NSA are Their Own State and we are as foreign to them as, say, Morocco or Madagascar.

To them we are The Wallet.

The Founders would have been shocked at the mere concept of what they do everyday there.


16 posted on 01/02/2014 2:15:44 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Biggirl
If the potential exists then the USA must have the technology. Our enemies certainly wouldn't be scared off of going forward by the revelations of a traitor...
17 posted on 01/02/2014 2:28:30 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: Jack Hydrazine

It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th

But I think it was supposed to be 1997.


18 posted on 01/02/2014 2:35:50 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: jdege

No kidding, it cuts into RSA/ECC the best. With something like AES it will probably cut the bit strength in half. So AES256 will be like AES128. That means that AES256 will still be unbreakable in theory, while AES128 would suddenly be wide open as 56 effective bits wouldn’t take long to break.

ECC public encryption would probably be ok at 521bit level too, which is about the same as AES256. However there’s solid rumors that the ECC cipher specs were NSA tailored to be breakable by them anyway. It’s a real mess out there.


19 posted on 01/02/2014 2:40:41 PM PST by Monty22002
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To: F15Eagle
It becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m..........

You need to go back a little further, remember this gem.

Colossus: The Forbin Project

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064177/

20 posted on 01/02/2014 2:42:34 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Biggirl

What this needs is the agreement of several hundred very high volume data users to create massive random data flows to overflow even a massively parallel system.

That is, in effect, the NSA is hoping to develop a very fast brute force system. But if it tries to decrypt garbage, it must go all the way to the nth calculation to show that it is garbage, and even then it is never sure that it is garbage.

Eventually, maximum effort to produce minimal results will render it cost ineffective.

They are experiencing a similar problem right now by trying to monitor all communications all the time everywhere. So much garbage that anything of value in it is lost.


21 posted on 01/02/2014 2:44:30 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM. Rantburg.com)
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To: Biggirl
The irony of building a quantum computer for decryption/factoring is that the complexity with building the computer is entangling the bits, keeping the bits entangled, then "reading" the bits.

Once that problem is figured out, the technology can be fairly readily adapted to build quantum encryption that can't be broken by a quantum computer.

So once the problem is solved, the solution creates a new greater problem.
22 posted on 01/02/2014 2:55:24 PM PST by Deek
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To: Mastador1

I own it. Awesome.


23 posted on 01/02/2014 3:01:57 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Biggirl

When do we get to see the guy from the old Apple commercial on the large screen?

I’ll bring the sledgehammer....


24 posted on 01/02/2014 3:10:33 PM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: Biggirl

seeks to build = already built 5 years ago and the $$$$$$$$ is a laundering scheme.


25 posted on 01/02/2014 3:45:56 PM PST by bgill
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To: MeganC
One-time cipher pads are still pretty safe so long as you just use them once.

The problem is getting genuinely random numbers for the key. Computers produce only pseudorandom numbers, and even if the keys are genuinely random, keeping the "code book" secure is difficult.

26 posted on 01/02/2014 6:36:23 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (itYe)
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To: JoeFromSidney
I've looked into using tables of economic and demographic data, and telephone directories, as sources of random numbers. They "sort of" solve the problem of distributing the keys. The numbers pass several tests of randomness, but if "they" figure out which table you're using, the game is up.
27 posted on 01/02/2014 6:43:35 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (itYe)
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