Skip to comments.There Are Irreconciliable Differences Between Liberty-Loving Americans and Leftists
Posted on 01/02/2014 6:41:50 PM PST by markomalley
Here's a question that I've asked in the past that needs to be revisited. Unless one wishes to obfuscate, it has a simple yes or no answer. If one group of people prefers strong government control and management of people's lives while another group prefers liberty and desires to be left alone, should they be required to enter into conflict with one another and risk bloodshed and loss of life in order to impose their preferences on the other group? Yes or no. My answer is no; they should be able to peaceably part company and go their separate ways.
The problem our nation faces is very much like a marriage in which one partner has an established pattern of ignoring and breaking the marital vows. Moreover, the offending partner has no intention to mend his ways. Of course, the marriage can remain intact while one party tries to impose his will on the other and engages in the deviousness of one-upsmanship and retaliation. Rather than domination or submission by one party, or domestic violence, a more peaceable alternative is separation.
I believe our nation is at a point where there are enough irreconcilable differences between those Americans who want to control other Americans and those Americans who want to be left alone that separation is the only peaceable alternative. Just as in a marriage where vows are broken, our rights guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution have been grossly violated by a government instituted to protect them. These constitutional violations have increased independent of whether there's been a Democrat-controlled Washington or a Republican-controlled Washington.
There is no evidence that Americans who are responsible for and support constitutional abrogation have any intention of mending their ways. You say, "Williams, what do you mean by constitutional abrogation?" Let's look at the magnitude of the violations.
Article I, Section 8 of our Constitution lists the activities for which Congress is authorized to tax and spend. Nowhere on that list is there authority for Congress to tax and spend for: Medicare, Social Security, public education, farm subsidies, bank and business bailouts, food stamps and thousands of other activities that account for roughly two-thirds of the federal budget. Neither is there authority for congressional mandates to citizens about what type of health insurance they must purchase, how states and people may use their land, the speed at which they can drive, whether a library has wheelchair ramps, and the gallons of water used per toilet flush. The list of congressional violations of both the letter and spirit of the Constitution is virtually without end. Our derelict Supreme Court has given Congress sanction to do just about anything for which they can muster a majority vote.
James Madison, the acknowledged father of the Constitution, explained in Federalist Paper No. 45: "The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce. ... The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State." Our founder's constitutional vision of limited federal government has been consigned to the dustbin of history.
Americans have several options. We can like sheep submit to those who have contempt for liberty and our Constitution. We can resist, fight and risk bloodshed and death in an attempt to force America's tyrants to respect our liberties and Constitution. A superior alternative is to find a way to peaceably separate into states whose citizens respect liberty and the Constitution. My personal preference is a restoration of the constitutional values of limited government that made us a great nation.
I vote for sooner, rather than later.
Leftists will never allow us outside of their grip
“...My personal preference is a restoration of the constitutional values of limited government that made us a great nation.”
Amen, and I do believe that is the preference of all my fellow FReepers as well.
Who is gonna eliminate two thirds of the budget? Buy your guns first.
Of course not — they need our money/productivity to fund all their crap.
Poll: 70 percent have no confidence in government
Amen, amen, amen. I've been trying to hammer these points home for a long, long time.
What was once far-fetched is gettin’ real.
The “split” scenario is surfacing more and more into the mainstream. I’d vote to seceed apart from the Obama-voting fag-marriage states in a split second.
Liberty loving conservative Christian valued Americans can get along fine without liberals, and prosper doing it.
Conversely liberals wouldn’t survive a year without us.
70% of Americans have no confidence in the government, but
will continue to demand and accept their government
Water the Tree of Liberty.
Is there any divorced Freeper who regrets his or her divorce?
I doubt it.
Correct. They are not content to let people live as they wish. They must FORCE their will on others.
The country is divided between the big government liberals on the east and west coasts and those who believe in liberty in the rest of the country.
Problem is that without big changes that reign in all three branches of government, that isn’t going to happen. The two solutions I see are a constitutional convention and secession.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Americans have become so politically and culturally divided, for example, if you aren't revolted by Pajamaboy you are as foreign to me as a heart ripping Aztec, that we should consider ourselves separate and distinct peoples. Separate people that need separate governments and separate countries.
Of course not they need our money/productivity to fund all their crap.
You're not wrong, workerbee, but the ultimate point of Marxism has very little to do with economics, everything to do with punishment and murder.
the just shall rule over the impious and unbelievers ...