Skip to comments.Producers Panic as Ethanol Mandate Loses Support
Posted on 01/03/2014 5:30:46 AM PST by thackney
Ethanol producers are panicking amid speculation that the ethanol mandate could be drastically reduced or scrapped entirely this year as the biofuel loses its allure and bipartisan allies and former friends team up against it.
December saw California Democrat Dianne Feinsteina renewable fuel champion--coordinate efforts with Oklahoma Republican Tom Coburn to come up with a Senate bill to get rid of ethanol from the Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS), citing fears that corn-based fuel production mandates will harm livestock producers.
In November, Washington proposed cutting the biofuels mandate for 2014 by 16% to 15.21 billion gallons. This would be the first cut in biofuels requirements, which were ideally set to grow each year with incremental increases in renewable fuel targets laid out in a 2007 law.
For renewable fuel targets, this represents a major setback because not only is 15.21 billion gallons for 2014 much less than the originally intended 18.15 billion gallons, it is also less than this years mandate of 16.55 billion gallons.
Two years ago the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) approved the E15 blend, which contains 15% ethanol and 85% gasoline, for vehicles manufactured in 2001 or later. There has been little progress towards widespread use of E15 though, and todays blend is commonly E10.
The problem is that the RFS set its parameters too far ahead and predictions are a tricky thing....
(Excerpt) Read more at oilprice.com ...
It can only be a good thing to eliminate ethanol, period.
Uh politicians, how about the production mandates hurting consumers??
This might help Bakken producers
I don't see it having an effect in the next decade or so.
We don’t have a single vehicle that is 2001 or later. We have to drive quite a distance for “marine” gas (non ethanol)
True but now we will have the ethanol bail-out.
I have no sympathy for the 'losers'
If they were really smart, they took their profits and invested in underground fuel tanks, entire home generators and MRE's
I’m not sure most people realize how damaging Ethanol is to most vehicles, especially the engine. Mandating the e85 blend is just insanity.
Live by government central planning, die by government central planning.
Another meddling Feral Government boondoggle that has cost taxpayers billions of dollars (Maybe hundreds of billions) to waste energy in production of ethanol, reduce auto mileage, damage car engines and increase the cost of food.
But the corn and ethanol producers love the government subsidies which is nothing more than corporate welfare by politicians for their crony capitalist pals.
Burning food for fuel is very stupid. Raised world food prices and starved a lot of people.
I have had my tag line for a long time.
Ethanol had about as much allure as Barb Mikulski in a bikini.
Liberals are annoying and ignorant but ambitious - they constantly try to repeal the laws of economics, physics, and chemistry. A gasoline engine is just that.
Time for the EPA to go away.
Time for ALL the Departments and agencies that begin with the letter "E" to go away.
EPA, Energy and Education. Everyone of them is a total failure and an overwhelming burden on taxpayers.
I hate that ethanol and it takes more energy to produce it than it produces. All it did was give the corn growers an outlet
All renewable energy is that way. There is a place for biodiesal also, but mandating it drives the market upside down.
Expect a farm crisis later this year. Corn prices have dropped, and land is heading that way.
Huh, stopped clock and all that...
ADM and Cargil are the reason for the sugar tariffs.
Fortunately that mess finally ended two years ago.
Volumetric Ethanol Excise Tax Credit (VEETC)
mandating it drives the market upside down.
Yep. That is the next beast to slay.
They were trying to push E10 to E15. I have not seen any discussion for mandating E85. Most vehicles would not even start, let alone run on it.
Anything that will lower the competition for natural resources needed to make drinkable alcohol is a good thing! /s
What are you talking about, that mental giant, Austin Dillon, is doing commercials designed to look like PSA’s telling us that worries about ethanol damaging our cars is a hoax to sell additives to counter the effects of ethanol. /extreme sarc
I suppose that just makes him another male whore. He should have spent just a little more time in science class.
I will be the first to support capitalism and market freedoms, but when the federal government subsidizes this sponsorship and the industry uses people like this to propagandize the public, it is a bridge too far.
Little boy Brian it taking NASCAR down the tubes of irrelevancy. I remember hearing of Big Bill’s concerns about sending his kids to IV league schools. He should have listened to that little voice of warning.
I have a ‘91 Ford truck. I learned the hard way that it did not like ethanol. (Why didn’t they tell us?)
There are a lot of farmers looking at going under, who will not vote for the same candidate.
And I thought we were going to “Starve To Death” all the worlds poor people which would help the Environment!!
“Expect a farm crisis later this year. Corn prices have dropped, and land is heading that way.”
Too damn bad. They were making a killing during the ethanol boom.
We have a large ethanol production plant near where I live. We also have a VERY large area of potato growers. If we see the ethanol product discontinued, converting to using potato’s to produce vodka will be rather easy. The plant already uses corn as the raw material to produce the alcohol “base” for ethanol. Until the petroleum product is introduced into the ethanol stream, the product is nothing more than good ole “moon shine”. Now how good is that, we can produce alcohol out of either corn or potato’s. Life is good!
Even my 1 1/2 year old Tacoma say NO E85 on the fuel tank fill cover.
There have been companies that profited very well from the ethanol mandate. Stabil and Startron fuel stabilizer sales must be huge in comparison to a few years back.
Also, Walbro and other manufactures of small engine carburetors sales must be up tenfold in the last few years.
I know I personally bought two. It was cheaper to buy a whole new carburetor than rebuild it.
I’ve heard these too, and it was really disheartening to hear outrageous paid lies from who you would think would be a “car guy”. Anyone with dirt under their nails has seen what ethanol does. I have. Things rust and corrode.
I want to see what happens if we take one of those $500,000 fake NASCAR cars, fill it with E15, _let it sit for a month_, and then take it out for a spin on the track.
Fuel ethanol production from sweet potato - CNRS
Sweet Potato Out-Yields Corn in Ethanol Production Study
“Also, Walbro and other manufactures of small engine carburetors sales must be up tenfold in the last few years.
I know I personally bought two. It was cheaper to buy a whole new carburetor than rebuild it.”
Expect a farm crisis later this year. Corn prices have dropped, and land is heading that way.
Interesting, the lady whom cuts my hair and my Buddy’s wife traditionally make Tamales over the Holidays. Both mentioned to me last month that Masa and Corn husks had sky rocketed in price compared to 2012. I figured due to ethanol?
I completely believe that.
Yep. I suppose it is OK for engines that have a max build life somewhere around 750 miles at best. Actually, the engine shop can tell the team almost to within 10 miles how long it will last before it hand-grenades.
I suppose Austin also had forgotten about all of the engines that erupted for a while at the beginning of last year when NASCAR mandated the E85 blend for the spec fuel. But then again, he is a driver and could care less what it takes to get him from a green flag to the checker. Just as long as his motor coach is parked in the right place.
They also started to talk about how the fuel load distance was reduced by as much as 5 laps at Daytona and more in other cases just because of the change, but that didn’t bother NASCAR because it made it mandatory for more pit stops along the way to make the races more interesting. But that was quickly squelched.
I hope that everyone that was involved in the ethanol scam loses everything.
Everybody was happy when corn was less than $2 a bushel, except for the farmers going broke.
The use of ethanol for fuel instead of food is insane. To discontinue its mandated production may result in significantly lower food prices, which benefits our nation far more than producing ethanol to reduce are already low fuel imports.
What would also drive fuel costs lower is to offer incentives for oil refineries to build more plants. So many have shut down that the price of fuel is artificially high, and always borderline to shortage.
Remove ethanol from our gas and:
1. better running engines with improved mileage
2. gas prices will improve
3. food prices will improve
so, what’s the problem?? Get ethanol off our back!!
There is nothing wrong with producing ethanol but corn is one of the least efficient bases to use. An acre of Sorghum will produce something like 1500 gallons of ethanol and an acre of corn I think less than half that.
I am not happy with the effects of ethanol on our car.
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