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As predicted, some who think they're insured under Obamacare apparently are not
American Thinker ^ | 01/03/2013 | Rick Moran

Posted on 01/03/2014 6:58:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind

In October and November, the error rate for the Obamacare website as far as an enrollee having their information forwarded to an insurer was 25%. No one knew how many people would think they were covered while the insurance company had no clue they were even a customer.

It's early yet, but there have already been several examples of this little "glitch" that may cost people's lives.

Daily Mail:

Hospital staff in Northern Virginia are turning away sick people on a frigid Thursday morning because they can't determine whether their Obamacare insurance plans are in effect.

Patients in a close-in DC suburb who think they've signed up for new insurance plans are struggling to show their December enrollments are in force, and health care administrators aren't taking their word for it.

In place of quick service and painless billing, these Virginians are now facing the threat of sticker-shock that comes with bills they can't afford.

'They had no idea if my insurance was active or not!' a coughing Maria Galvez told MailOnline outside the Inova Healthplex facility in the town of Springfield.

She was leaving the building without getting a needed chest x-ray.


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: enrollment; obamacare

1 posted on 01/03/2014 6:58:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The MSM will sim[ply not report this story. No story; the problem does not exist. (Notice there are never stories about the homeless when a Dem is president?)


2 posted on 01/03/2014 7:06:44 AM PST by Flick Lives (Got a problem with the government? Have a complaint. Get a free IRS audit!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ooops....


3 posted on 01/03/2014 7:09:13 AM PST by b4its2late (A Progressive is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nobody is turned away for not having insurance. Apparently people are walking away on their own when the find out the visit won’t be covered by Obama money.


4 posted on 01/03/2014 7:42:12 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: dangerdoc
Apparantly people are walking away on their own when they find out the visit won't be covered

Some of these people are probably really sick, in which case they'll sort it out later but pay and get the care they need. There's probably a percentage who figured that they have insurance now, and they'll get all of the freebies they can.

5 posted on 01/03/2014 7:49:35 AM PST by grania
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To: SeekAndFind

Glitch that may cost people’s lives.
It’s why it’s called socialized medicine.


6 posted on 01/03/2014 7:59:02 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind

Two specialists, (different specialties) told us that many patients showed up assuming they were covered and were not.

Both docs agreed to bill established patients if they paid their co pays.

The docs would not allow billing with new patients with no proof of insurance. Cash was required up front. This forced a good % of patients to cancel the appointments, which meant a loss of time for the docs.

Both docs were disappointed that many patients without coverage due to a screwup from Obamacare didn’t seem to be mad about it. One doc said that made her very concerned. The cancelled patients should have been angry/mad. Instead, in her words, “They just took the no see’s with minimal if any emotion.”


7 posted on 01/03/2014 8:14:12 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obamacare is a Trinity of Lies! Obamaganda is failing 24/7! Soon Obamaganda will fail 24/365!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Instead, in her words, “They just took the no see’s with minimal if any emotion.”

Our populace has taken much grief, much hardship since the Democrats took over Congress since 2007. What is sad is that through the sinister secrecy of the MSM, the general populace does not really know the downward descent our nation is headed.

Your example may just illustrate the dumbing down, the desensitizing of the people. Desensitized people just do not have the resolve to fight against wrongs, to resist government oppressions.

8 posted on 01/03/2014 8:37:03 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen (DEFUND the GOPe it wants our money, our votes, but NOT our principles/values/beliefs)
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To: SeekAndFind

Even if these people had been confirmed as “covered” - the chances they would still have to pay for that day’s visit out-of-pocket is still quite high right?

These people will eventually get they’re “coverage” - and they will STILL go without treatment once they understand what a deductible is.


9 posted on 01/03/2014 8:40:49 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: dangerdoc

They are slowly but surely learning the meaning of the word, “deductible.”

Conversation at an inner city ER:

“I’m here for my free Obamacare I heard about on my Obamafone!”

“OK. You came to the right place! You’re policy has a $5,000 deductible. Today’s care costs $150, so that will be $150. In advance.”

“Where’s my free Gibsmedat! I want mo betta Gibsmedat!”

“No problem, that’s what we voted for! As soon as your bills reach $5,000, you get the Gibsmedat! Now, will the $150 be in cash or EBT draft?”


10 posted on 01/03/2014 9:17:10 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Grampa Dave

I see why the Docs are concerned. These people they’re talking about have no clue the rug’s been pulled out from under them, and Docs are worried that people will start acting out in their offices, endangering them and their staff.

I wouldn’t want to be the person to have to tell them there isn’t any Gibsmedat anymore. They’ll tear you to shreds.


11 posted on 01/03/2014 9:21:37 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: SeekAndFind

We knew this wouldn’t work!


12 posted on 01/03/2014 9:23:47 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

And the idiot voters wouldn’t believe us. They still don’t.


13 posted on 01/03/2014 9:26:33 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Stand Watch Listen

Your summation of what this doctor was trying to convey about her concern re might be patients or former patients re their state of denial is excellent.

“Our populace has taken much grief, much hardship since the Democrats took over Congress since 2007. What is sad is that through the sinister secrecy of the MSM, the general populace does not really know the downward descent our nation is headed.”

“Your example may just illustrate the dumbing down, the desensitizing of the people. Desensitized people just do not have the resolve to fight against wrongs, to resist government oppressions.”


14 posted on 01/03/2014 9:38:13 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obamacare is a Trinity of Lies! Obamaganda is failing 24/7! Soon Obamaganda will fail 24/365!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

You are probably correct:!

“I see why the Docs are concerned. These people they’re talking about have no clue the rug’s been pulled out from under them, and Docs are worried that people will start acting out in their offices, endangering them and their staff.

I wouldn’t want to be the person to have to tell them there isn’t any Gibsmedat anymore. They’ll tear you to shreds.”


15 posted on 01/03/2014 9:40:54 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obamacare is a Trinity of Lies! Obamaganda is failing 24/7! Soon Obamaganda will fail 24/365!)
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To: Scotswife
...and they will STILL go without treatment once they understand what a deductible is.

That'll be the next shoe to drop once we get past this initial "am I insured or not" question. That's when things will really get lively.

16 posted on 01/03/2014 9:45:48 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

When the “mo betta gibsmedat” crowd finds out what “deductible” means, I hope everybody here who lives in the cities has plenty of ammo.


17 posted on 01/03/2014 9:51:55 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Grampa Dave

The new buzz words for 2014 -co pay, premium, deductible....http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/26/health/obamacare-glossary/index.html


18 posted on 01/03/2014 10:09:39 AM PST by Aquamarine
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To: Aquamarine

Thanks for the link.

CNN could have used a $5000 deductible instead of $500.

What was I thinking. This is CNN.:)


19 posted on 01/03/2014 10:56:34 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obamacare is a Trinity of Lies! Obamaganda is failing 24/7! Soon Obamaganda will fail 24/365!)
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To: Grampa Dave

Surely everybody in CNN’s 40,000 cohort of watchers can afford the platinum policy, no?


20 posted on 01/03/2014 10:59:37 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: nascarnation

“Surely everybody in CNN’s 40,000 cohort of watchers can afford the platinum policy, no?”

BOL! Your estimate of CNN idiots er watchers, is probably too kind.


21 posted on 01/03/2014 11:06:22 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obamacare is a Trinity of Lies! Obamaganda is failing 24/7! Soon Obamaganda will fail 24/365!)
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To: dangerdoc

People are walking away because they have no understanding of their healthcare period!

A woman signs up for healthcare the day before Christmas...goes to the hospital today without an Insurance card or information....though she has signed up for a plan...she has no ‘understanding’ her deductable is $4000. ....So even if they treated her she has not met her deductible and would have to pay until that is meant. I suspect they told her she would have to pay her deductable anyway.....and that is why she walked away IMO.

I think many low voters are under the impression that if they simply pay their premium the rest is a ride.....they have little understanding that have to “pay” their deductible, usually in the thousands, before their Insurance kicks in.

For this we have yet to see the outrage of those who think just paying their premium is their only cost. ...so there’s another storm coming. And they’ll no doubt drop any coverage they have and go back to the ER “standards” they’ve been accustomed to.


22 posted on 01/03/2014 11:07:25 AM PST by caww
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To: Grampa Dave

Don’t have any actual facts.

That was the number Trump used when he was mocking Wulf Blister about how lame the network was.


23 posted on 01/03/2014 11:08:28 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: caww

Pay the premium? They thought they were getting a check for that amount.
“Maam, your premium is $715 a month”
“Oh thank goodness. I can get the kid’s toys out of layaway”


24 posted on 01/03/2014 11:15:14 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: nascarnation

CNN is probably lamer now re viewers.


25 posted on 01/03/2014 11:16:07 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obamacare is a Trinity of Lies! Obamaganda is failing 24/7! Soon Obamaganda will fail 24/365!)
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To: AppyPappy

LOLOLOL..they really don’t understand the terminology or what this is about. Some understand all must pay a premium but few understand they must also pay a co-pay and deductible.

Many have not ever had Insurance and with Obama pushing they’re going to finally have Insurance..they still think if they pay “their share” of the premium alone the rest is a free ride.


26 posted on 01/03/2014 11:18:47 AM PST by caww
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To: caww

All these people who “enrolled” were unaware that they had to pay to get an insurance card. They were planning to pay a little each month towards the premium.

“My premium is $715 a month. Can I just pay $150 a month towards it until I get it paid off?”


27 posted on 01/03/2014 11:25:55 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy

lol correct you are.


28 posted on 01/03/2014 11:28:16 AM PST by txhurl
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To: Flick Lives

>> The MSM will sim[ply not report this story.

The MSM is the Country’s greatest threat.


29 posted on 01/03/2014 11:29:07 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Grampa Dave

They might have simply had the decency to realize the docs weren’t to blame, and that having a fit at them would be trashy and low class.


30 posted on 01/03/2014 1:28:38 PM PST by Fire_on_High (RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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To: Fire_on_High

“They might have simply had the decency to realize the docs weren’t to blame, and that having a fit at them would be trashy and low class.”

You might be correct. Both of these doctors have been in practice a long time, and they are good people as well as good doctors.


31 posted on 01/04/2014 7:44:13 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obamacare is a Trinity of Lies! Obamaganda is failing 24/7! Soon Obamaganda will fail 24/365!)
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