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Nothing in War on Ford has worked so far
Toronto Sun ^ | January 2, 2014 | Joe Warmington

Posted on 01/03/2014 7:00:29 AM PST by Squawk 8888

TORONTO - How the heck are his enemies going to beat this guy?

The media polls on Day One of the Toronto 2014 election show the one sure thing is Mayor Rob Ford is the man to beat.

One torontosun.com poll certainly indicates this.

Question: “Of those who have made their intention to run public, who would you vote for in the 2014 mayoral election?”

Rob Ford: 53%

Karen Stintz: 42%

David Soknacki: 5%

There’s a poll on Sun News Network’s website:

Question: “Election season kicks-off in Toronto Thursday as candidates are eligible to register for October’s municipal vote. How likely is Mayor Rob Ford to win another term?”

Very likely: 49%

Likely: 33%

Unlikely: 10%

Not a chance: 8%

And then there’s Newstalk 1010:

Question: “Are you considering voting for Rob Ford in the next municipal election?”

Yes: 50.4%

No: 45.9%

I haven’t decided: 3.8%.

None of the three polls are scientific but they are still interesting.

They don’t have other possible big name candidates listed, such as Denzil Minnan-Wong, Norm Kelly, Olivia Chow or John Tory, so they are hardly bankable.

Those who just discount them as irrelevant are generally the same ones who have misread the whole Ford saga since Day One.

These polls would matter to Ford’s opponents had they showed him faring terribly.

Instead, these polls all send one message loud and clear.

The actions to make Mayor Ford irrelevant, by his enemies and even all by himself, have not panned out as well as many would think they should have.

There is not the animus toward the apologetic mayor that a group of well-organized Toronto elites would have people believe.

Every poll in recent times also show this sentiment.

No question Mayor Ford has a good number of people who want him gone.

But Ford also has his supporters.

And they are not embarrassed to admit it no matter who sends out letters saying they should be.

So what are they going to do?

Nothing in the War on Ford has worked so far.

Plan A, to shame, embarrass and/or drive Mayor Rob Ford out of office and into oblivion has not resonated.

What is Plan B?

The backroom-Toronto-mayor-deciders have more piling on to do.

Meanwhile, there was the big man, down 30 pounds in weight, on Jan. 2, as promised, with his $200 and registration to run for mayor again in the Oct. 27 vote.

Most would have been political road kill. Ford’s survival skills have proven to be exceptional.

Remarkable, actually.

Not many could gain points in the polls, or at least maintain their approval rating, following an admission to smoking crack cocaine.

Imagine what the poll numbers would have been had none of that happened.

What would it take for the masses to turn on him as his enemies wish would happen?

And what type of campaign or candidate can unseat him?

Or is Toronto ready to forgive and reward a repentant mayor trying to redeem himself with a second term?

Man, is this going to be one fascinating year — that will become even more engrossing depending on what happens with an expected spring provincial election which could feature Councillor Doug Ford running with PC Leader Tim Hudak against Premier Kathleen Wynne’s Liberals.

Despite all that was thrown their way in 2013, any way you cut it, Rob and Doug Ford are very much political players who are very much alive and kicking.

But the municipal race is just getting started. A lot will happen in the next 10 months and plenty of players to be heard from — maybe even law enforcement, who had no problem keeping an eye on the chief magistrate on the ground and in the air last year.

Stayed tuned. Some interesting weeks ahead and even more spin and agendas.

The only thing that matters is what Torontonians think. And they will get their chance to express just that in October.

That will be the only poll that will be considered scientific.


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The poll results come as no surprise. Those of us who voted for him would switch to another candidate in a heartbeat *if* we could trust them to implement the agenda that Ford has. The opposition doesn't have his baggage, but they don't have his policies either. He has restored a level of sanity to local government that has been absent for the last 50 years.
1 posted on 01/03/2014 7:00:29 AM PST by Squawk 8888
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To: Clive; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...
To all- please ping me to Canadian topics.

Canada Ping!

2 posted on 01/03/2014 7:02:23 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: dynachrome

Poll at link.


3 posted on 01/03/2014 7:03:10 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: Squawk 8888

Rob Ford is called a Canadian conservative. Would someone please tell me the difference in terms of political platforms.
It would appear from a distance that despite Mr. Ford’s checkered personal life, he is an able administrator. I would not have thought that someone who has such substance abuse problems would be an able administrator, but that is what I have heard. Also, people seem to like him despite his personal problems.


4 posted on 01/03/2014 7:11:45 AM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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To: 3Fingas

I’ve met him a few times and he is very likable. The key to his success has been the job he did as Councillor since 2003. My first encounter with him was an occasion where I needed the city to step in because of garbage piled up in a parking lot. I emailed him at 10pm on a Sunday. He left me a voicemail first thing the next morning, said he just visited the parking lot in question and would make some calls. By the time I got home from work the trash was gone.


5 posted on 01/03/2014 7:26:26 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: 3Fingas

Canadian conservatives tend to be fiscal hawks but live-and-let-live on social issues. Our main strength has been a low-key, businesslike approach to government.


6 posted on 01/03/2014 7:28:39 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: 3Fingas

Mayors of Canadian cities have far less power than their American counterparts. While they can regulate zoning and have to deal with the usual areas of public works, parks & recreation, fire and police, they do not have the power to impose an income tax or sales tax. They have to rely entirely on property taxes and user fees. That fact limits the ability of municipal governments to engage in big government wealth redistribution programs such as direct welfare payments. A leftist mayor and council can still do significant damage to a city’s fiscal bottom line, but not nearly the extent that we’ve seen in large American cities.


7 posted on 01/03/2014 7:30:39 AM PST by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: littleharbour

Mayoral powers vary widely in the United States, depending upon the form of governance taken by the respective municipality. Some are, for all intents and purposes, mere figureheads. Others are quite powerful.


8 posted on 01/03/2014 7:35:04 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Squawk 8888

Well, that sounds like a very responsive representative to me. I see why you like him.

In the USA, we historically have had a distrust of centralized government. I think that there is good precedent for such a sentiment. Our founding documents clearly specify limited powers for the Federal Government. Our Federal government is supposed to be limited in it functions, but efficient in its operations. Today, the Federal Government and many of the state governments are neither small nor efficient in their operations. I think people down here, despite our disagreements over legitimate government functions, are sick of incompetent government officials. I think that Rob Ford would make a better executive than either Obama or H. Clinton. It seems improbable on the face of it, but it is what it is.


9 posted on 01/03/2014 12:52:17 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters for Freedom and Rededicaton to the Principles of the U.S. Constitution...)
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