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Bill Nye “The Science Guy” will debate founder of Creation Museum in Kentucky
NY Daily News ^ | 1/3/2014 | Irving Dejohn

Posted on 01/03/2014 7:02:40 AM PST by aimhigh

It’s a debate that will surely end with a Big Bang.

Bill Nye “The Science Guy” will square off with Ken Ham, the founder of the Kentucky Creation Museum, in a February discussion on the subject of teaching children evolution.

The spiritual showdown, which is unlikely to with either man relinquishing their firmly-held beliefs, will take place on Ham’s home turf of Petersburg, Ky. “Having the opportunity to hold a cordial but spirited debate with such a well-known personality who is admired by so many young people will help bring the creation-evolution issue to the attention of many more people, including youngsters,” Ham said in a statement.

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“Bill Nye really doesn't understand science,” Ham said in the video, without a shred of irony. “Bill Nye also has an agenda to teach children not to believe in God.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: academicbias; antichristian; atheistsupremacist; billnye; creation; fundamentalatheism; globalwarmingscare; junkscience; liberalbigot; museum; science; scienceguy; strawmanargument
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1 posted on 01/03/2014 7:02:40 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

Nye will lose.
He cannot answer the question:

How did life start?.............


2 posted on 01/03/2014 7:07:16 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Red Badger

On the backs of crystals.... duh!


3 posted on 01/03/2014 7:08:25 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: aimhigh
Why is it a "spiritual showdown"? These are empirical facts. Geology and paleontology doesn't change based on your religion. There's no Christian physics or Muslim chemistry, there's just physics and chemistry.

I wish science could get a better spokesman than an Al Gore standard bearer though.

4 posted on 01/03/2014 7:09:49 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: GunRunner

The problem is that “science” can’t time travel.
You can experiment in the here and now,
and only conjecture about the past.


5 posted on 01/03/2014 7:11:23 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: aimhigh

“... without a shred of irony”

Did anyone else spot the bias?


6 posted on 01/03/2014 7:13:09 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus
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To: MrB

Two competing theories and neither satisfy me.. The truth is that nobody knows.


7 posted on 01/03/2014 7:15:20 AM PST by refermech
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To: refermech

Nobody? No human.


8 posted on 01/03/2014 7:18:15 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
The problem is that “science” can’t time travel.

Sure it can. Tonight, if it is not too cold, look up into the sky. You're looking at hundred, thousands, possibly millions of years into the past. With a telescope you can see billions of years into the past.

9 posted on 01/03/2014 7:18:41 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: aimhigh

Bill Nye is a liberal puke.


10 posted on 01/03/2014 7:19:19 AM PST by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: GunRunner

You’re making a uniformitarian assumption with that.
Time and speed of light are constant? Always were? How do you know?


11 posted on 01/03/2014 7:20:21 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: aimhigh

Nye can only give boiler plate answers.


12 posted on 01/03/2014 7:20:23 AM PST by SkyDancer ("How Can People Ask Forgiveness If They Won't Forgive Others?")
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To: aimhigh

I’d love to hear Nye debate Ravi Zacharias on this issue.


13 posted on 01/03/2014 7:21:39 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's free." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: MrB

Time is certainly not constant. Time is relative. One of the reasons you can see things that happened billions of years ago right now.


14 posted on 01/03/2014 7:24:05 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: MrB

LOL.


15 posted on 01/03/2014 7:24:34 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: refermech

I’ll pray for your mind and heart to be opened to the truth. Read Norman Geisler and Frank Turek’s book “I Don’t Have Enough Faith to be an Athiest” and maybe the light will come on for you. Plenty of science, history and logic to prove that creation is true.


16 posted on 01/03/2014 7:26:33 AM PST by Conservinator (It's okay to be close-minded IF you are right!)
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To: GunRunner

Unfortunately this debate will be used by both sides to denigrate the views they disagree with for years to come. All people of Faith will have the weak scientific arguments of this creation museum guy thrown in their face, and those who believe that evolution is part of God’s Creation will have Bill Nye’s stumbles endlessly dragged out. I can’t think of two worse guys to have a debate like this. They are leaving out the views of the huge segment of us who hold a deep Faith in God while accepting that the Universe is billions of years old.


17 posted on 01/03/2014 7:32:39 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: aimhigh

Bill Nye is a ding-dong liberal, but creation is as much ding-dong. Let science bear out scientific facts without the drama. C’mon FRiends, just get real and stick to your Constitutional, God-given right to freedom for all humanity policies and stop this religious bunk. We have more important things affecting the American supremacy now.


18 posted on 01/03/2014 7:36:50 AM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: MrB
Matthew 19:4 (KJV)

4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,...

Jesus Christ, God manifest in the flesh (1 Timothy 3:16) , knows and confirms the Genesis account in this one verse -- God created Adam and Eve fully formed. And stepping out of eternity he communicated this to man. He is the Creator (John 1:1,2).

So, any Christian who doesn't know this is grossly misinformed. But most likely is a Christian in name only and is not saved, since it is the Holy Spirit which teaches all truth and every saved person has the "earnest" of his inheritance. (Ephesians 1,2).

19 posted on 01/03/2014 7:37:58 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: GunRunner

Well done, Gunny. I’ve been enjoying the night display of Orion and Jupiter chasing him across the sky the last several weeks. Betelgeuse and his friends are so far away, that it really makes a person stare in awe at the wonder of nature and physics. And we are ONLY gazing upon our own galaxy. Beyond are the galaxy clusters, local groups, super groups. We don’t know anything yet. Religion doesn’t diminish our quest for knowledge.


20 posted on 01/03/2014 7:42:05 AM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

> I’d love to hear Nye debate Ravi Zacharias on this issue.

Ravi is brilliant.

He might be more merciful and graceful than Ken Ham, but the results would be the same.


21 posted on 01/03/2014 7:45:24 AM PST by Westbrook ()Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: aimhigh

A difficult (for laymen like me) but interesting read on a Rabbi and engineer’s writings on time:

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/74335/jewish/What-is-Time.htm

Please don’t bash until you’re tried to get through the whole thing...


22 posted on 01/03/2014 7:47:28 AM PST by Phinneous
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To: aimhigh

Yeah, he’s not a phony or anything...
http://wattsupwiththat.com/climate-fail-files/gore-and-bill-nye-fail-at-doing-a-simple-co2-experiment/


23 posted on 01/03/2014 7:47:31 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: refermech

Think larger. What WAS before the Universe began? Explain an endless eternity with no beginning and no end without God. Explain a Universe that has no dimensions and is endless in every direction. If Time and the Universe have a beginning, or an end, what was Before and what is After? The only explanation is a God. Science is finite. God is infinite.


24 posted on 01/03/2014 7:49:22 AM PST by LeonardFMason (LanceyHoward would AGREE)
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To: MrB
Are you familiar with Humphreys' work on gravitational time dilation? Starlight and Time

I followed this debate years ago. He was always willing to answer his detractors.

25 posted on 01/03/2014 7:51:10 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: aimhigh

“The Truth Project” by Focus on the Family is the best thing I have ever watched to debunk the left from everything from science to the constitution.

Here’s a trailer to first part of science

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM-qToF4aMs&sns=em


26 posted on 01/03/2014 7:52:01 AM PST by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: refermech

I know, because God tells me in his word how we all started. I take him at his word.


27 posted on 01/03/2014 7:56:32 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: aimhigh

Bill Nye is no scientist. At most he did a really cheesy kids science show in the 90s, and then he fell off the radar for over a decade.

Then the kids then that became the hipsters now, “ironically” made him popular again. Now he runs around being a bitter little leftist hiding behind the nebulous term “scientist” to make it seem like his outlandish views have some sort of official backing.

He is the “science guy”, so it has to be true, right?

He and that other internet creation, Neil Degrass Tyson, are 2 people I immediately ignore whenever they start talking.

Makes me miss Mr. Wizard. He would have never allowed himself to be cheapened like this for political agendas.


28 posted on 01/03/2014 7:57:39 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: nonsporting

While I agree scripture supports creationism. Some of our fellow Christians may not have read or studied in detail the Genesis account. I was a believer 5 years before I studied Genesis inductively and became a young earth creationist.


29 posted on 01/03/2014 8:00:39 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: aimhigh; RepRivFarm

“Ham’s museum has put on exhibits that claim the earth was made in a couple of days roughly 6,000 years ago.”


This is a false statement. Ham does not believe that the earth was made “in a couple of days.” He believes it was exactly six days.

This misrepresentation is to purposely make Ham look like an idiot.


30 posted on 01/03/2014 8:20:04 AM PST by Conservaliberty (Everything is racist. Don't agree? That's because you're racist. /s)
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To: lcms rev

ping


31 posted on 01/03/2014 8:20:23 AM PST by Conservaliberty (Everything is racist. Don't agree? That's because you're racist. /s)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

yeah...just a bit of a bias...


32 posted on 01/03/2014 8:21:28 AM PST by Conservaliberty (Everything is racist. Don't agree? That's because you're racist. /s)
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To: Red Badger
He cannot answer the question:

How did life start?.............

Neither can Ham. All he can do is give his opinion that the Bible tells him how.

33 posted on 01/03/2014 8:24:58 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: aimhigh

It’s a shame that Bill Nye is such a lefty. When my girls were young, we enjoyed his show.


34 posted on 01/03/2014 8:29:22 AM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: VanDeKoik
Bill Nye is no scientist.

Neither is Ken Ham.

Makes me miss Mr. Wizard. He would have never allowed himself to be cheapened like this for political agendas.

I doubt that Nye's political agenda is any less pronounced than Ham's agenda is.

35 posted on 01/03/2014 8:30:30 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Oh, believe me, the creationist guy ranks so low the science meter, that it’s almost a waste of time even having to point it out. ;)


36 posted on 01/03/2014 8:35:37 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Conservaliberty
This is a false statement. Ham does not believe that the earth was made “in a couple of days.” He believes it was exactly six days.

This misrepresentation is to purposely make Ham look like an idiot.

It wasn't exactly 6 days, wasn't the first day separating light and dark?

How many days to make the Earth is the question, the answer does not appear to be six.

37 posted on 01/03/2014 8:35:45 AM PST by par4
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To: Conservaliberty
This misrepresentation is to purposely make Ham look like an idiot.

He needs no help in that area.

38 posted on 01/03/2014 8:48:52 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: lefty-lie-spy

evolution has never been proven despite simple single celled organisms that can be observed through millions of generations in a short time period, NOT ONE bacterium has EVER changed into another


39 posted on 01/03/2014 8:55:29 AM PST by pass-the-biscuits-please
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To: Irenic

Jesus did not grow and harvest grapes then tread the winepress and ferment in turning the water into wine...it was an instantaneous miracle.


40 posted on 01/03/2014 8:55:29 AM PST by pass-the-biscuits-please
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To: DoodleDawg

Wow DoodlePoodle, a little bitter on Ken Ham. Interesting.


41 posted on 01/03/2014 8:57:15 AM PST by Artcore
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Wow DoodlePoodle, a little bitter on Ken Ham. Interesting.

Bitter? No. But not impressed either. The story is right. If Ham does say that Nye doesn't understand science then he totally is missing the irony in that.

42 posted on 01/03/2014 9:00:14 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: pass-the-biscuits-please

What bacterium not changed into another bacterium? Please be more specific.


43 posted on 01/03/2014 9:10:41 AM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Ken Ham and his fellow young-earthers have done more to drive thoughtful people away from Christianity than Dawkins, Dennett, Harris, Hitchens etc. could possibly have dreamed of doing.


44 posted on 01/03/2014 9:14:20 AM PST by Notary Sojac (Mi tio es enfermo, pero la carretera es verde!)
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time bookmark


45 posted on 01/03/2014 9:14:21 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

Quasars are the things that freak me out. Huge galaxies spewing out x-rays from the galactic nucleus. There are some that are tens of billions of light years away, but we can still see them.


46 posted on 01/03/2014 9:20:16 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: Notary Sojac

This is demonstrably true. I think it’s too bad, since YEC is just repackaging Price’s Seventh Day Adventist teachings during a brief creationist revival in the mid-20th century. There’s nothing really Biblical about a 6,000 year old Earth.


47 posted on 01/03/2014 9:23:31 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: LeonardFMason
Explain a Universe that has no dimensions and is endless in every direction.

Lemaitre did it scientifically without the supernatural, and he was a priest.

48 posted on 01/03/2014 9:26:13 AM PST by GunRunner
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To: VanDeKoik
Bill Nye is no scientist.

He is an entertainer. He started out as a regular on a late night Seattle Comedy TV Show... Almost Live!. His most popular role at that time was “Speed walker”, a superhero who walked to crimes in progress. The Science Guy thing started out as a joke that stuck. He corrected the Almost Live host's pronunciation of gigawatt and the host retorted, “Who do you think you are—Bill Nye the Science Guy?”

He has a bachelor of science degree from 1977 and no other formal education since that time that I am aware of. He is just a typical Seattle Know-it-all liberal. I have been dealing with them all of my life

49 posted on 01/03/2014 9:35:22 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: GunRunner

Great. Just as soon as you discover a perfectly placed mirror planet that will allow you to see into the Earth’s past, you might be able to actually observe a few of the things that paleontologists and geologists speculate about. You still wouldn’t be able to conduct scientific experiments in the past, but you’d be halfway to actual science.


50 posted on 01/03/2014 9:40:21 AM PST by Boogieman
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