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Happy New Year from HMSA: Premium now $1742.50 per Family [Obamacare rate increases]
Hawaii Free Press ^ | January 1, 2013 | Andrew Walden

Posted on 01/03/2014 10:37:16 AM PST by kaehurowing

HMSA individual plan ratepayers are receiving “Happy 2014” letters from HMSA this holiday season. The letters, dated December 27, 2013 and signed by Elena Kambitisi, HMSA Senior Vice President for Consumer Strategy, outline new rates effective February 1, 2014. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at hawaiifreepress.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obamacare
"4.4 percentage points of the 7.5 percent increase for individual plans are to cover ACA-related costs. For small-business policies, 3.9 percentage points of the 6.8 percent increase is related to ACA costs...."
1 posted on 01/03/2014 10:37:17 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: kaehurowing

That’s nearly $21k per year. Nobody can afford the Affordable Care Act......................


2 posted on 01/03/2014 10:40:49 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: kaehurowing

Is this $ 1742.50 Premium due every month?

Elena K. official announcement neglected to mention that factoid.


3 posted on 01/03/2014 10:44:17 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

No...that’s an annual premium. The article links to a PDF with monthly rates.


4 posted on 01/03/2014 10:46:34 AM PST by Edward Teach
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To: Edward Teach

It clearly says it’s monthly.

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Portals/0/Article%20Attachments/HMSA%20Obamacare%20Bill%2020140101.pdf


5 posted on 01/03/2014 10:55:31 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: Edward Teach; Graewoulf

Those are MONTHLY rates:

http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Portals/0/Article%20Attachments/HMSA%20Obamacare%20Bill%2020140101.pdf


6 posted on 01/03/2014 10:57:46 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Graewoulf

The letter clearly says it’s a monthly rate. $1742.50 for a family; $20910 per year.


7 posted on 01/03/2014 10:57:48 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: Edward Teach

That’s outright piracy!..............


8 posted on 01/03/2014 10:58:02 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Red Badger

Obamacare was set up to punish middle class citizens who make this country work. Problem is it’s so bad it’s going to hurt almost everyone except the most protected dem victim groups.


9 posted on 01/03/2014 10:58:15 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: Edward Teach
It is the monthly premium.
10 posted on 01/03/2014 10:58:23 AM PST by MWestMom (We are not designed to sacrifice for the state, we were designed to sacrifice for each other.)
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To: Red Badger

“That’s outright piracy!..............”

....or gangsterism. He is turning the Federal government into a gangster enterprise. I bet Bugsy Seegle(sp) and Al Capone are smiling in their graves.


11 posted on 01/03/2014 11:01:05 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: ltc8k6
Your health is our top priority.

I think Your Money is their top priority!

12 posted on 01/03/2014 11:01:36 AM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: GOPJ

All the No-Info Voters assumed that they would not be involved if they had health insurance.

They bought in to the lie of “If you like your healthcare plan you can keep it.” and “if you like your doctor you can keep him.”

They assumed that the ACA would provide FREE healthcare to those who don’t have it, you know the famous “30 million without healthcare” lie.

Now, they are forced to live with the choices THEY made for everybody else.

The best way to defeat liberal ideology is to make liberals live under their own rules.................


13 posted on 01/03/2014 11:02:28 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Edward Teach

Thanks!

What a relief!

For a moment there I thought that Obama was only pushing his Obamcare as a means to squeeze money out of everybody except for his exempted friends.

Paying a Mandatory Tribute of only $4.77 a day to Commie Tyrant Obama at 1600 Plantation Avenue is the very least that we can do to support Obama Socialized Health Insurance Tax, better known as OSHIT.


14 posted on 01/03/2014 11:02:31 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Red Badger

For one single employee, our small group premium went from $661 to $981 per month. We had to give her crap coverage for $552 a month because she couldn’t afford the increase and I refused to pay the additional premium.


15 posted on 01/03/2014 11:03:22 AM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes mandatory ... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MWestMom

Ok lets be real. we all know 90%of the population canot afford this. now what? what do they do when most if not all of americans can not pay.
this is the big picture.


16 posted on 01/03/2014 11:03:40 AM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: kaehurowing

We waited to see what Obamacare is, and now we know.

Millions of people have lost their insurance coverage.

Obamacare is unaffordable, costing more than many people can pay, and it continues to reveal hidden costs.

For those who can pay the increased premiums, the coverage is less than what they could get before Obamacare, and deductibles plus limits will cause financial ruin.

We are going to end up with more uninsured people than what we had before Obamacare, but the previous uninsured may or may not be covered by Medicaid, which is to say they will probably get the same kind of care they could get before Obamacare.

We can conclude that the politicians who brought Obamacare upon us, all Democrats, are hopelessly incompetent idiots. They obviously hate us, want to make us miserable, and for the sake of politics, they are willing to destroy us. It must be so because were it otherwise, they would get out of this while the gettn’ is good. Being too stupid to foresee what a colossal catastrophe Obamacare is is one degree of evil. Being too arrogant, politically ambitious and ideologically blinded to admit the mistake and correct it is evil multiplied exponentially.


17 posted on 01/03/2014 11:06:13 AM PST by pallis
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To: kaehurowing

If you factor in the high deductibles of our un-subsidized corporate plan, which we hit every year, our family is paying $18k/year now.

It’s killing us.

Just wait until everyone feels this.


18 posted on 01/03/2014 11:07:20 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Edward Teach

Annual? How do you figure that?


19 posted on 01/03/2014 11:08:06 AM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: catnipman

OH NOES!

It is an ANNUAL Tribute to Commie Tyrant Barry S.!

How were we led astray by the unanimous support of the Progressive, Ivy-League Educated, Democrat Politicians?

Can we ever trust Democrats again?

Oh me! Oh my!

The sky is falling!

Help! Help Help!


20 posted on 01/03/2014 11:09:12 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: pallis

Impeach Obama in 2014. Period.

The US House of Representatives is analogous to a Police Force - - - they “arrest” the perp by Impeaching the perp.

The US Senate is analogous to a Jury of Peers who have the power to throw the Impeached perp off of the taxpayer gravy train, take away his residence, ban him from building a Library paid for by us, and ban him from using his personal Corporate Jet, Air Force One.

Most RINO Americans want to wait, Wait, WAIT! until they control the House, the Senate and the White House.

To those weak-kneeded summer soldier “patriots” I say “Enjoy the Obamanation that you have tolerated since January, 2009.”

Thus, we Summer Soldier Conservatives continue to tolerate a wimpy, hand-wringing, sobbing crybaby Speaker of the House Boehner as our sorry chief policeman.

“Oh, if only my best friends across the aisle would just play nicey nice - - - “ is the perfect quote that fire-in-the-belly Socialist-Democrats love to hear from their doormat, cowardly, Obamacrat RINOs.

Yes indeed, as long as we WAIT for things to be PERFECT we will never attack those whose goal is to destroy the US Constitution.

Suck it up you sorry House RINOs, and replace John “Benghazi Coverup” Boehner with SC Rep Trey Gowdey, or SC Rep Joe Wilson.

Without a fire-in-the-belly Republican Speaker of the House, Obamacrat RINOs will continue to cave in to “their best friends across the aisle,” to the unbridled glee of every Democrat voter in America!

Pretend that you are fighting to enforce the US Constitution, House RINOs.

Fight or go home, House RINOs.

FIGHT or we will send you home!

Impeach Obama in 2014. Period.


21 posted on 01/03/2014 11:12:24 AM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Donnafrflorida
Ok lets be real. we all know 90%of the population canot afford this. now what? what do they do when most if not all of americans can not pay. this is the big picture.

1) The public blames the "greedy" insurance companies for the rate increases.

2) Insurance companies lose customers and are forced to leave the market.

3) Single-payer swoops in to save the day.

Only something went wrong with part 1) - the public has been blaming the Obama Administration, instead. And they are in a panic trying to change the narrative.

22 posted on 01/03/2014 11:20:25 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Graewoulf

This is just some policies. My HMSA family policy annual premium has jumped from $19,000 to $27,000 in the 3 years since Obamacare passed, and I am already also looking at the Cadillac Tax once that takes effect.


23 posted on 01/03/2014 11:30:11 AM PST by kaehurowing
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To: catnipman

Just to clarify, here a link to their premium tables.

http://cca.hawaii.gov/ins/files/2013/12/Exchange-Premium-Comparisons-Ind-Rates-2014.pdf

So yes, you could conceivably wind up paying $1700/month, in certain instances.
That BTW is more than I pay each month for housing...I’m pretty sure I’d be telling them to honk on bobo.


24 posted on 01/03/2014 11:49:06 AM PST by Edward Teach
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To: Donnafrflorida

Perhaps the end game was to default into a single payer system knowing that the current ACA would not work.


25 posted on 01/03/2014 11:52:30 AM PST by MWestMom (We are not designed to sacrifice for the state, we were designed to sacrifice for each other.)
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To: Graewoulf
Fight or go home, House RINOs.

If voter fraud is as bad as I suspect it is, they well may go home.

In 09 I said;

We have just had a bloodless Coup d'état and no one noticed.

26 posted on 01/03/2014 11:57:17 AM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: Red Badger
The best way to defeat liberal ideology is to make liberals live under their own rules...

Amen to that...

27 posted on 01/03/2014 12:16:56 PM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: kaehurowing
Look at the good side. Fluk will get her birth control for free. And when the “affordable” premiums bankrupt you you can get on mediocrecare.
28 posted on 01/03/2014 12:39:10 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: kaehurowing; GOPJ

29 posted on 01/03/2014 1:58:01 PM PST by 4Liberty (Mr President 'If you Like your college transcripts...can we see them?')
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To: Red Badger

I wonder...

can you still get a NORMAL insurance policy that doesn’t meet Obama’s so-called “standards”?

It would probably be cheaper to get a “substandard” policy and pay the fine
than it would be to pay for an “approved” policy.


30 posted on 01/03/2014 2:03:29 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

I’m not sure about any other plans ‘B but I asked the insurance outfit, (provided me through a trust set up for for retired ex-employees), providing my health care plan/policy , that/your question and the answer was no. My long time monthly premium of $460.00 jumped to $565.00. The reason given for that increase was that the ‘lifetime’ limit was raised, (the limit raise was forced upon them to comply with the new ACA ), from a $500 Thousand previous amount to now unlimited $$$ for major hospital operations, surgery, ICU stays etc. My co-insurance stayed at 90% they/10% me. The deductible stayed at $200.00 a year for office visits and prescriptions etc. Overall, I think I got off okay, (especially the deductible staying at just $200.00 a year), with just a $105.00 premium increase per month but that unlimited $$$ deal might come in VERY handy some day soon. Knock on wood....


31 posted on 01/03/2014 2:39:13 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: kaehurowing

“4.4 percentage points of the 7.5 percent increase for individual plans are to cover ACA-related costs. For small-business policies, 3.9 percentage points of the 6.8 percent increase is related to ACA costs....”

7.5 percent increase
6.8 percent increase

3.1 percent increase anyway, without the ExtortionAct.

They lobbied for it.


32 posted on 01/03/2014 3:24:59 PM PST by Varsity Flight (Extortion-Care is the Government Work-Camp: Arbeitsziehungslager)
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To: Edward Teach

Letter is from the carrier to extend the old policy Teach link shows exchange rates.


33 posted on 01/03/2014 5:57:59 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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