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Two New Executive Orders Will Change Who Can Buy Guns
Mashable ^ | January 3, 2014 | Colin Daileda

Posted on 01/03/2014 2:57:42 PM PST by lbryce

The White House issued two executive actions on Friday that aim to beef up background checks for would-be gun buyers and keep the weapons away from those at risk of harming themselves or others.

The first order, proposed by the Department of Justice, more clearly defines who cannot possess a handgun under federal law due to mental health issues. It is designed to clarify the language of the current law by providing better definitions for phrases like what it means to be "committed to a mental institution." This, in turn, will provide a more well-rounded picture of a potential buyer's mental health for the background check to determine whether a purchase should be allowed.

The second executive action concerns privacy laws associated with the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. States have complained that individual privacy protections have made it difficult for them to report relevant mental health information to their respective background check systems, which they fear could lead to guns falling into dangerous hands. The proposed change would allow states to relay "limited" tidbits of information that they feel should be included in background checks. The executive order stresses that it will not prevent everyone with mental health concerns from buying guns, and will not require buyers to report "routine mental health care."

Too many Americans have been severely injured or lost their lives as a result of gun violence,"

Too many Americans have been severely injured or lost their lives as a result of gun violence," the order reads. "While the vast majority of Americans who experience a mental illness are not violent, in some cases when persons with a mental illness do not receive the treatment they need, the result can be tragedies such as homicide or suicide."

The debate over gun regulation in America has always been a hotly contested one, but it erupted in December 2012 following a mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that left 27 dead, including 20 kids, six adults and the gunman. President Barack Obama called for extensive gun control measures, including expanded background checks, but Congress has not passed any legislation since the attack. In the text of the executive orders, the White House continues to urge Congress to consider further gun control measures.

"Passing common-sense gun safety legislation — including expanding background checks and making gun trafficking a federal crime — remains the most important step we can take to reduce gun violence," the order reads.


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Too many Americans have been severely injured or lost their lives as a result of gun violence," the order reads. "While the vast majority of Americans who experience a mental illness are not violent, in some cases when persons with a mental illness do not receive the treatment they need, the result can be tragedies such as homicide or suicide."

The government is concerned for its citizenry and want to protect the people they love.

Limiting access to guns. Well, it worked successfully to diminish, eliminate civilian response to government oppression in other fascist regimes that the current dictatorship is bent on emulating.

1 posted on 01/03/2014 2:57:42 PM PST by lbryce
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To: lbryce

How many lives will be cut short because of 0bamacare?


2 posted on 01/03/2014 2:59:52 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: lbryce

They should background check Obama’s sons first.


3 posted on 01/03/2014 3:00:31 PM PST by SkyDancer ("How Can People Ask Forgiveness If They Won't Forgive Others?")
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To: lbryce
"Passing common-sense gun safety legislation — including expanding background checks and making gun trafficking a federal crime — remains the most important step we can take to reduce gun violence," the order reads.

None of this gun control BS has worked in the past, so by all means, pass some more.

4 posted on 01/03/2014 3:03:15 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


5 posted on 01/03/2014 3:03:54 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: lbryce

The first order, proposed by the Department of Justice, more clearly defines who cannot possess a handgun under federal law due to mental health issues.

Is this a constitutional order?????


6 posted on 01/03/2014 3:04:41 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: lbryce; All

Impeach Obama in 2014. Period.

The US House of Representatives is analogous to a Police Force - - - they “arrest” the perp by Impeaching the perp.

The US Senate is analogous to a Jury of Peers who have the power to throw the Impeached perp off of the taxpayer gravy train, take away his residence, ban him from building a Library paid for by us, and ban him from using his personal Corporate Jet, Air Force One.

Most RINO Americans want to wait, Wait, WAIT! until they control the House, the Senate and the White House.

To those weak-kneeded summer soldier “patriots” I say “Enjoy the Obamanation that you have tolerated since January, 2009.”

In similar manner, we Summer Soldier Conservatives continue to tolerate a wimpy, hand-wringing, sobbing, crybaby Speaker of the House Boehner as our sorry chief policeman.

“Oh, if only my best friends across the aisle would just play nicey nice - - - “ is the perfect quote that fire-in-the-belly Socialist-Democrats love to hear from their doormat, cowardly, Obamacrat RINOs.

Yes indeed, as long as we WAIT for things to be PERFECT we will never attack those whose goal is to destroy the US Constitution.

Suck it up you sorry House RINOs, and replace John “Benghazi Coverup” Boehner with SC Rep Trey Gowdey, or SC Rep Joe Wilson.

Without a fire-in-the-belly Republican Speaker of the House, Obamacrat RINOs will continue to cave in to “their best friends across the aisle,” to the unbridled glee of every Democrat voter in America!

Pretend that you are fighting to enforce the US Constitution, House RINOs.

Fight or go home, House RINOs.

FIGHT or we will send you home!

Impeach Obama in 2014. Period.


7 posted on 01/03/2014 3:05:05 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: lbryce
The White House? You mean President Jarrett - because the occupant is in Hawaii. Aside from that, this is yet another cinder block removed from freedom's foundation.
8 posted on 01/03/2014 3:07:14 PM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Graewoulf

yup


9 posted on 01/03/2014 3:07:25 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: lbryce

“Mental health concerns” will eventually mean “anyone who pisses-off a government official.” Whatever abuse could occur Will occur. That is the way of all law when Leftists are involved. Laws are always stretched to the point of absurdity.


10 posted on 01/03/2014 3:08:28 PM PST by servo1969
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To: lbryce
There is Nothing innocuous done by the feral government.
11 posted on 01/03/2014 3:09:36 PM PST by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: lbryce
..gun violence...FAST AND FURIOUS
12 posted on 01/03/2014 3:14:25 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: lbryce

Nobody cares about these orders. Carry on


13 posted on 01/03/2014 3:15:05 PM PST by Carry me back
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To: ZULU

[ The first order, proposed by the Department of Justice, more clearly defines who cannot possess a handgun under federal law due to mental health issues.

Is this a constitutional order????? ]

They will slip in people with supposed ODD (Oppositional Defiance Disorder) as people from the tea party and libertarians...

Stalin used mental health as a good excuse to send people who disagreed with him to the gulag...


14 posted on 01/03/2014 3:15:19 PM PST by GraceG
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To: lbryce

If the author wants to say something, he/she should simply say it. There are no “tidbits” and particulars in the piece.


15 posted on 01/03/2014 3:19:53 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: lbryce
King Obama the First WORST
16 posted on 01/03/2014 3:23:19 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero!)
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To: lbryce

All conservatives are depressed because of 0bama. Therefore no conservatives will be allowed to keep and bear arms. The IRS will make all final determinations.


17 posted on 01/03/2014 3:26:29 PM PST by forgotten man
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To: lbryce
The left leaders so loves the people they see them as their children..you know. .fetuses..and we know how they solve there “suffering”
18 posted on 01/03/2014 3:27:13 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: lbryce

The “Brown Clown” is a TOTAL a$$ hat!


19 posted on 01/03/2014 3:27:39 PM PST by Renegade
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To: lbryce

Both are unconstitutional.


20 posted on 01/03/2014 3:31:38 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: lbryce

I looked over the exact verbiage. *IF* they do as they are stating they will — and that is a BIG IF — then I guess I have no problem with the clarifications.


21 posted on 01/03/2014 3:33:48 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To Hell with the legislative branch. The Marxists are governing by decree!


22 posted on 01/03/2014 3:34:14 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: lbryce

1. Obama and the Dems are desperate to hold onto their base (not that they’ll switch to the GOP, but they’ll go 3rd party or just stay home)

2. This will cause people with mental illnesses to avoid treatment. Law of Unintended Consequences is always biting the heels of these heels.


23 posted on 01/03/2014 3:34:46 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Graewoulf

Let’s set our sights a bit more realistically. How about we win the Senate and strengthen the House with conservatives, first.


24 posted on 01/03/2014 3:36:13 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Graewoulf

“Impeach Obama in 2014. Period.”

It takes 2/3 of the Senate to remove Obama from office. That’s 67 votes. There are 45 pubbies and 55 communists. Only 16 communists are up for election. If we take all of those seats and keep the pubbies we’ve got (unlikely) we’d still be several votes short. And, that figues on all of the pubbies voting to remove him. (McCain? Probably no. I’m sure we could name a few more who would be horrified to remove a black communist from office.) So, it won’t happen.


25 posted on 01/03/2014 3:40:54 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: lbryce

IMPEACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


26 posted on 01/03/2014 3:44:49 PM PST by bandleader
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To: lbryce

It will really make it hard for combat veterans to legally own firearms and especially to have a CCW.


27 posted on 01/03/2014 3:45:56 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: lbryce
[Article]
The proposed change would allow states to relay "limited" tidbits of information that they feel should be included in background checks. The executive order stresses that it will not prevent everyone with mental health concerns from buying guns, and will not require buyers to report "routine mental health care." [Emphasis added.]

Wanna bet, Binky?

Get caught buying St. John's wort or valerian at a drugstore, bam! Cops on your doorstep next day with a search warrant for your firearms.

28 posted on 01/03/2014 3:50:54 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lbryce

I knew this was coming as sure as the sun will rise in the morning.

The Communists use the “mental” avenue to absolutely control the population without any regard to rights or law.

I wonder how many “mentally ill” ordinary citizens were toasted in the ovens or sent to gulags simply because they were a threat to the government.

Now, gun control is the burning issue with our own communists and since some of the few remaining laws of the Constitution stand before them, they will fall back on the “tried and true” tested methods of the Communists.

If you disagree with any of the unlawful government rules, laws and regulations there can be only one reason to do so....MENTAL INSTABILITY!


29 posted on 01/03/2014 3:53:51 PM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: 1010RD
How about we win the Senate and strengthen the House with conservatives, first.

How about the House turning loose a platoon of special prosecutors to dig up the dirt on The Impostor first, and set the stage for his removal -- or force the Dims to line up in lockstep, again, behind another impeached criminal, right before the Big One in 2016? If Hillary gets in, we are all fried.

A GOP House and Senate, by themselves, will only set a mildly more-Republican backdrop for the end of the Republic.

The best it will do will afford really handsome payoffs for GOP-e quislings who sell out to the Stalinists post-election, for all the marbles.

30 posted on 01/03/2014 3:56:01 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lbryce
Too many Americans criminals have been severely injured or lost their lives as a result of gun violence

FIFY

31 posted on 01/03/2014 4:03:19 PM PST by rllngrk33 (Things will continue getting worse until at least January 2017.)
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To: lbryce

When it comes the government, in the killing business, it does not like competition.

I mean, the feds do it so well, that we have yet to figure out the actual demise of Vince Foster! We THINK we know what happened to Ron Brown. There is still the questionable solo death of Rep. Sonny Bono. The late Mssr. Breitbart, laughing and being cheerful a mere four hours earlier than the coroner’s determined time of death.

However, when the feds start stepping over their own privacy laws, to intimidate, finger, and isolate other Americans, who look to those privacy laws as a bulwark against intrusion, the feds have just ‘dumped’ on themselves.


32 posted on 01/03/2014 4:07:19 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: lbryce

The little dictator can blow his common sense gun paranoia out his faggoty butt. Ignore him.


33 posted on 01/03/2014 4:30:52 PM PST by pallis
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To: GraceG

Stalin used mental health as a good excuse to send people who disagreed with him to the gulag...

VERY TRUE. And this bastard is the closest thing to Stalin we have seen in America.


34 posted on 01/03/2014 4:35:26 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama the Doctor Mengele of Medical Care)
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To: 1010RD

Do you really think we can vote our way out of this mess? I think we’re way past that point.


35 posted on 01/03/2014 4:46:14 PM PST by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: lbryce
All those questions Zerocare will be required you to answer will be submitted
by some people who are very anti-gun. Once any lie is in the system it cannot be reversed
without thousands paid in lawyer fees. If there's even a way to dispute what that IRS has on you.

The IRS will be the new anti-gun regulator by how they perceived your mental health.
And those bureaucrats will not be professional Docs trained in psychology.

36 posted on 01/03/2014 4:52:29 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: lbryce

It’s our duty as American citizens to ignore unconstitutional laws.


37 posted on 01/03/2014 4:52:48 PM PST by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: lbryce
Their intent is to eventually prohibit any person on meds (anti-depressants, ADHD meds, anxiety meds, etc, etc) from owning guns.

They are also creating more felons by enacting ridiculous laws that render more felons...like Illinois just did regarding discarding cigarette butts...3 times, you're a convicted felon.

And the GOP doesn't even flinch.

38 posted on 01/03/2014 4:54:52 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Gen.Blather
So, it won’t happen.

Allow me to drill into your head that it's not so much impeaching him as is the fact that
nobody is going through the motions of even TRYING. Bringing into the light through impeachment
procedings would show the low information voters WTF is really happening and that the MSM have
been lying for all these years. The damage being Caused by Boehner is incomprehensible through dereliction of duty.

39 posted on 01/03/2014 4:57:26 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: lbryce
From the article: "The second executive action concerns privacy laws associated with the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act. "

Did they find an "executive order" exception to this law also, similar to the exception buried somewhere in Obamacare which allows Obama to change any part of it whenever he wishes?

40 posted on 01/03/2014 5:07:22 PM PST by William Tell
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To: lbryce

The outlaw scumbag in the White Hut does it again. The lawless, fascist pig.


41 posted on 01/03/2014 5:18:19 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The Truth Is Out There. Just don't let anyone know that you're looking for it.)
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To: Lazamataz

The words in the actual law, the 1968 GCA, that disqualify a person from buying a gun are “-—adjudicated mentally defective”. The only “clarification “that might be useful is how one gets himself “adjudicated.” Everything else looks to be double talk BS-——and theeerrrrreeeee goes the BS flag——wheeeee.


42 posted on 01/03/2014 5:24:38 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: SkyDancer
They should background check Obama’s sons first.
43 posted on 01/03/2014 5:25:09 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: MaxMax

Clinton turned the tables on his impeachment and got more popular. With the MSM on their side that could happen again.


44 posted on 01/03/2014 5:38:15 PM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: lbryce

DSM already has codified oppositional defiant disorder as a mental disorder. It will become the new over diagnosis du jour. it will mean the same thing as anyone expressing anti-government views, conservatives, libertarians.
Lets face it, when they really try to take the guns, it will be CW2.


45 posted on 01/03/2014 5:43:05 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: lbryce

Sir, your records show you didn’t vote Democrat. Sorry, but you’re banned from purchasing guns, knives, baseball bats and tp.


46 posted on 01/03/2014 6:03:26 PM PST by bgill
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To: lbryce

FUBO.


47 posted on 01/03/2014 6:04:22 PM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: lbryce
“Today we begin to disarm the criminal and the careless and the insane. All of our people who are deeply concerned in this country about law and order should hail this day.” - Lyndon Johnson when he signed the 1968 GCA into law.
48 posted on 01/03/2014 6:10:47 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: lentulusgracchus

And how about the dolts with a Medical Marijuana card filling out form4473?


49 posted on 01/03/2014 7:11:23 PM PST by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: 1010RD

Your loyal words will make John Boehner very proud to be the leader of the RINO Establishment.


50 posted on 01/03/2014 8:37:18 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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