Skip to comments.90% of shooting rampages could be stopped by quick-thinking civilians: expert
Posted on 01/03/2014 9:54:48 PM PST by neverdem
Mass shootings like the ones that have occurred in recent years in Newtown, Conn., and Aurora, Colo., have tripled in recent years, according to a study set to be published next week for the FBI.
Researchers looked at active shootings in public settings where the primary motive appeared to be mass murder and at least one victim was unrelated to the shooter, according to Yahoo News, which obtained the report.
The study, to be published next week in the FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin, a training publication for those in the criminal justice profession, was written by the Advanced Law Enforcement Rapid Response Training (ALERRT) Center at Texas State University...
Researchers looked at 110 active shooter attacks, and found that they occur most often at businesses (40 percent) and schools (29 percent)...
Almost half of the active shootings are over before additional help can arrive, the study said, and potential victims actually stopped the attacker in 17 such cases...
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...
You can bet that the NY Slimes will not be reporting on this.
G*D forbid that anyone suggest that civilians be armed let alone be armed in public!
What the heck do those people know about it? What does the NYTs think? /s
The definition of terms that define these statistics will be interesting to read.
After all when the study says that the shooting is over before additional help can arrive; does that mean that in shootings that are stopped when additional help arrives does it mean that LOE has arrived on the scene or does it mean that the LOE intervened?
From what I have read of the active shooter incidents in the press frequently the shooter kills himself when he hears LEO on the scene ending the incident and the LEO never engages the killer.
So to my mind incidents where the shooter kills himself when the LEO arrives would tend to support arming civilians because the mere arrival of firearms on the scene caused the shooter to end the shooting.
It’s time to start looking at the effect of “gun-free zones” on mass shootings. Businesses and schools are target-rich environments, so it’s not surprising that they lead the stats on the number of shootings, but the potential for presence or explicit absence of firearms in the hands of “victims” should be controlled for.
Leh mey see....
My 900 lumen flashlight
Kimber Tac II loaded with Hornady .45 JHP 230 grn
And my knife as a backup???
“He’s dead Jim”
The marijuana stores, growing sites and distribution centers must be gun free zones in WA state by order of the Justice Department. Security guards cannot be armed.
Crank-up the Lazy-Boy and get the popcorn, we are in for some real entertainment.
Your DHS at work.
.45 JHP 230 grn
Too bad you couldn’t get Black Talons - adds just a bit of extra trauma to the wound. Sorry, can’t help my supply is very limited. Other than that I like your choice.
“Gun free zones” are 1/2 of the problem. The other half is that it is, since the Carter years, nearly impossible to commit a crazy kid w/o his/her consent. Crazy people tend to not know they are crazy; they think everyone else is.
If you look at a graph of when we let the crazies go and when mass shootings took off there is a direct link. Then if you look at the recent popularity of “gun free zones” I am sure there will be a spike.
Black Talons were simply renamed and went back on the market with a slightly different jacket (doesn’t have the black Lubalox coating), renamed the Ranger SXT Ranger-T. With better powder behind it.
There is also a successor variant called the PDX-1 which differs in that it is a bonded hollowpoint version. They sell them at the usual sources, including Walmart.
That’s an incredible video.
What a bunch of sitting duck situations.
Hey at least there is some racial diversity.
Ah, common sense but never to be discussed in the media!
If most people went armed, there would be few if any mass shootings.
That would come at the cost of more accidental shootings (many people are idiots, and if most people went armed, a large percentage of them would be armed idiots)/
Also probably at least some increase in “road rage” type shootings. Presently those who CC are a small, self-selected elite. If most people went armed the mix of armed people would change, and not for the better.
Imagine someone walking into a theater and opening fire. 100 people return fire, some of them probably inaccurately.
I think someone is producing a round very much like the Black Talon, but with a different name. I seem to recall having seen one of those, but again, don't remember who makes it.
If you're afraid of carrying a gun, fine, DON'T. But don't project your problems on the rest of us, ok?
Thanks for your courteous and intelligent reply. / s
Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, is it?
I posited a world in which “most” people went armed, something that would be necessary if all or most attempted mass shooting were to be immediately opposed by armed civilians.
At present, there are about 8M CCW permit holders in the USA. Not all of them carry at all times. Let’s assume half do.
That means at any given time, 4M Americans, or about 1.5% are armed in public. That is a self-selected and very elite group. Few of them are idiots, and, as we know, the vast majority use their weapons responsibly.
Raise the armed percentage to 51%, and the group becomes a great deal less elite. It’s a hypothetical argument, because it isn’t going to happen. But I think it’s indisputable that if MOST people went armed, bad things would follow, though mass shootings would disappear.
I assume you will agree that a high percentage of the population are idiots. Look who they vote for! If MOST people went armed, a high percentage of those carrying would therefore, by definition, be idiots. Yet we are to assume that there would be no negative consequences following from millions of armed idiots on the street?
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