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Should Your Minimum Wage Depend on Your Age? That's how they do it in Australia-Could it work here?
The Atlantic ^ | January 2, 2014 | Jordan Weissmann, senior associate editor

Posted on 01/04/2014 5:20:41 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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Speaking on Fox News recently, conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer proposed what, to many, might have sounded like a rather novel compromise on the minimum wage. His idea? We should have two of them, a higher minimum for "breadwinners," and a lower minimum for everybody else.

Here was Krauthammer's thinking, paraphrased. It might be hard to feed a whole household on $7.25 an hour. But raising the minimum is most likely to hurt teenagers and minorities who rely on low-paid, entry-level jobs to get a foothold in the working world. So how do you lend a hand to hard-pressed families without penalizing the young? Force employers to pay the "breadwinners" more, and everybody else less.

He called his two-tiered solution "a reasonable answer that Republicans and conservatives could offer."

Already, Krauthammer has gotten a bit of pushback. "Proponents and skeptics of a higher minimum wage can agree that Krauthammer is wrong about this," Slate's Matt Yglesias quipped on Twitter. The Washington Examiner's Philip Klein argued that figuring out who qualified as a "breadwinner" and making sure employers paid them appropriately would be a regulatory headache. But more importantly, he says:

...the economic effects would be most detrimental for those Krauthammer's proposal is intended to help. Under Krauthammer's idea, businesses who want to avoid paying the higher minimum wage on breadwinners have an easy solution: Shift toward hiring more teenagers or other nonbreadwinners.

Klein is right that that whole "breadwinner" concept would probably be more trouble than it would be worth. But what if we tweaked the idea just a little bit, and based the minimum wage on something more straightforward, like a worker's age?

We wouldn't be the first country to try it....

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: australia; charleskrauthammer; economy; employment; mattyglesias; minimumwage; philipklein; unemployment
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1 posted on 01/04/2014 5:20:42 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...to each according to his needs.”

???


2 posted on 01/04/2014 5:25:26 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Like a giant union eh?


3 posted on 01/04/2014 5:26:01 AM PST by Crazieman (Are you naive enough to think VOTING will fix this entrenched system?)
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To: Bryanw92

No one will hire unskilled older workers. This policy would rival obamacare as the dumbest domestic policy in the last 50 years.


4 posted on 01/04/2014 5:27:08 AM PST by Tulane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ok, where’s that Captain Picard “facepalm” pict?


5 posted on 01/04/2014 5:28:14 AM PST by PastorBooks
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To: Tulane

“No one will hire unskilled older workers.”

It seems nowadays that companies don’t want to hire SKILLED older workers; they accept the poor performance/lack of skills of younger workers in exchange for paying lower wages. Companies don’t want to pay a “living wage”, and will sacrifice quality to avoid it. Why pay someone who has a family and housing costs when you can pay someone living with their parents who only has to pay for a monthly tattoo or piercing?


6 posted on 01/04/2014 5:33:28 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Importing economic concepts from socialist countries just really works so well...NOT!!!


7 posted on 01/04/2014 5:36:11 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Tulane
There are two classes who work at these places...youth and older folks. Both are looking for supplemental incomes. Both are uneducated.

The minimum wage is not supposed to be adequate to raise a family. The concept is ridiculous.

My hubby always worked two jobs when the kids were little.

You want to raise a family someday? Stay in school...get an education and pursue a dream...."the pursuit of happiness" is YOUR responsibility.

8 posted on 01/04/2014 5:38:40 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Bryanw92

Age adjusting the minimum wage admits that it’s hurtful to young people. Well, if it’s hurtful to one group it’s hurtful to all groups. This is also why I always vote against tax exemptions for various groups. If the tax is hurtful to one group, it’s hurtful to all groups only more so now that some constituency is immune.

Age adjusting only means that older people won’t get hired in minimum wage jobs.


9 posted on 01/04/2014 5:40:51 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It wouldn't work without an end to foreign labor doing jobs instead of US citizens. With our current culture, as soon as a worker got older and eligible for a higher wage, they'd be replaced by a young invader.

Any chance to reverse course in the US stops with ending the invasion of the US.

10 posted on 01/04/2014 5:41:18 AM PST by grania
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“a higher minimum for “breadwinners,” and a lower minimum for everybody else...”

Fail from Krauthammer. I worked every bit as hard as anyone else at McD. I wasn’t a breadwinner yet. I was becoming one.


11 posted on 01/04/2014 5:41:47 AM PST by ToastedHead
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Idea brought to us by Walter Mondale’s speechwriter. He gets a free pass on being a RINO because of his disability.


12 posted on 01/04/2014 5:44:59 AM PST by peyton randolph (Proverbs 13:20)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Speaking on Fox News recently, conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer proposed what, to many, might have sounded like a rather novel compromise on the minimum wage. His idea? We should have two of them, a higher minimum for "breadwinners," and a lower minimum for everybody else.

IIRC, Krauthammer is a former speech writer for Walter Mondale, and he's reverting to form. I wouldn't say that this is "as dumb" an idea as Obamacare, which effects 100% of the population in all 57 states.

But it pretty much guarantees that low skilled workers above the cutoff age won't even be able to find employment as greeters at WalMart. Like many problems, the simple "solutions" will make the problem even worse, and the real solution is very difficult and will take years to accomplish.

13 posted on 01/04/2014 5:46:42 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: ToastedHead

Yeah, age doesn’t magically change your productivity. Either you are worth your wage (or higher) or you are not. The government stepping in just distorts the facts of the matter by placing a floor.

Of course this would mean that any unskilled older people would be shut out of getting into the market.


14 posted on 01/04/2014 5:48:00 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: kearnyirish2

If you are a older person with no skills then you have wasted your life.


15 posted on 01/04/2014 5:48:03 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Bryanw92

yeah, let’s go ahead with more laws about stuff. It surely will help.


16 posted on 01/04/2014 5:49:44 AM PST by Mrs. P
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To: kearnyirish2

I disagree. The USA is all about measuring productivity....except for government workers.


17 posted on 01/04/2014 5:51:53 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This policy is the definition of Age Discrimination.Can anyone see Ginsberg, etc. upholding this policy?


18 posted on 01/04/2014 5:52:34 AM PST by Makana (Self-esteem is the new intelligence. - Greenfield)
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To: Sooth2222

Charlie just through this idea to the crowd to chomp on. He knows it won’t happen.


19 posted on 01/04/2014 5:53:22 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is no difference between flipping a hamburger and digging a hole......the thought process is the same for it does not require thinking.

The more difficult the job, both physically and/or mentally, the higher the pay.


20 posted on 01/04/2014 5:54:47 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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