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Sorry, Camille Paglia: Feminism Is the Best Thing That Ever Happened to Men (Just weird)
Time Magazine ^ | December 18, 2013 | Cristina Page

Posted on 01/04/2014 6:17:14 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Men today are what feminism has always pined for and worked toward—and the happy surprise is that men wouldn't want to go back either.

Camille Paglia’s perennial skewering of feminism is now so near tradition it deserves its own greeting card. This year, in her article entitled, “It’s a man’s world and it always will be,” Paglia argues that men have and always will be the shapers of society while women have and always will play only a supporting role. She even claims men are responsible for women’s liberation—assigning them near full credit because they invented “labor-saving devices” that “liberated women from daily drudgery.” While bestowing this honor, she makes no peep about the likes of Margaret Sanger or the well-known “women’s movement” and their role in saving women from the daily drudgery of, say, unintended pregnancy. While neither is delightful, when wagering on which women needed more freedom from—unchecked pregnancy or manual dish cleaning—my money is on Sanger.

Paglia claims that feminism is set on “stereotyping, belittling or demonizing men.” Yet the research on men suggest their lives have improved immeasurably as a result of feminism. By all appearances, feminism has been the lead designer of the modern man who is not only the product of feminism but arguably the greatest beneficiary of it, too.

Women’s ascent into the workplace has not diminished men but has freed up space in the family for a more involved father—a position more fulfilling than any at the office....

(Excerpt) Read more at ideas.time.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; feminism; margaretsanger; paglia
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1 posted on 01/04/2014 6:17:14 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More feminism porn for my reading pleasure. Do you have like three computer screens on your desk? I appreciate the dirty work you do scouring the internets for us.


2 posted on 01/04/2014 6:20:58 AM PST by ToastedHead
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cristina, put down the pipe and get yourself some help.


3 posted on 01/04/2014 6:21:57 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: ToastedHead

This time it’s dressed up in “thoughtful prose” but really no different than the PIV column. The two authors (if, indeed they’re not one in the same) would probably like each other, if they’re not already friends.


4 posted on 01/04/2014 6:24:00 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

"...By all appearances, feminism has been the lead designer of the modern man who is not only the product of
feminism but arguably the greatest beneficiary of it, too..."

5 posted on 01/04/2014 6:24:07 AM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Feminism Is the Best Thing That Ever Happened to Men for easy sex.
6 posted on 01/04/2014 6:25:39 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Time magazine - whaddaya expect?


7 posted on 01/04/2014 6:26:21 AM PST by Ken522
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The first comment at the site is a pleasure to read. He eviscerates this bimbo.


8 posted on 01/04/2014 6:27:36 AM PST by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Paglia is correct. Feminism destroyed public education for our sons.


9 posted on 01/04/2014 6:28:16 AM PST by abclily
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author praises the murder of children.


10 posted on 01/04/2014 6:28:28 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
CAMILLE PAGLIA: WAR ON MEN DESTROYING AMERICAN CULTURE

or as Rush says, the Chickifcation of Men.


11 posted on 01/04/2014 6:29:42 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The other one was more stimulating. A first generation feminazi.

I’ll give Paglia credit for creating an attention getting niche for herself.


12 posted on 01/04/2014 6:33:12 AM PST by ToastedHead
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My first wife wanted to be a man (in the figurative not literal sense). It was seven years of marital misery for me. I ditched her and found a woman who is happy being a woman. It has been eleven years of marital bliss for us. Meanwhile, wife 1 remarried, got divorced again after two years and has been by herself for the five years since. Just sayin’.


13 posted on 01/04/2014 6:33:29 AM PST by KevinB (Barack Hussein Obama: Proof-positive that affirmative action does not work.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A 50% divorce rate, trending upward illegitimacy rate, 1 million plus abortions (50% male), an increasingly single mom welfare state, “affirmative action”/quotas for females, angry bitter unmarried females, “gay marriage” populations declines, save for immigration (and that’s another controversy) . . . yeah, men are so much better for it all, as is society.


14 posted on 01/04/2014 6:34:20 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Merry Christmas Everyone . . .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Undeniable Truth of Life No. 24

"feminism was established so as to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society." - Rush


15 posted on 01/04/2014 6:35:25 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rush said this decades ago. (IIRC, it’s a chapter in one of his books.) ISo it deserves thoughtful consideration when Paglia brings it up? Whatever... I’m glad she did; it’s true.


16 posted on 01/04/2014 6:36:09 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's free." P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: KevinB

“My first wife wanted to be a man (in the figurative not literal sense).”

I walk a very fine line being the breadwinner. It makes economic sense for me to work one job and him stay home with the kids. He could work two, and we’d never see him, and still end up with less. I am always mindful of this, in every aspect of life. He has complete and total control over the money. I ask him for cash when I need it. I hope he doesn’t feel this way about me.


18 posted on 01/04/2014 6:41:38 AM PST by ToastedHead
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As always, the undereducated feminist class has no knowledge of the great John Stuart Mill. He was the father of women’s rights.

How dare she drag out that 20th Century hag, Margaret Sanger. Susan B. Anthony would have been horrified at this racist, abortion-loving beast.


19 posted on 01/04/2014 6:41:46 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: raybbr

Impressive; it reads like a Supreme Court Justice’s dissenting opinion!

He must have had that in the can and ready to go.


20 posted on 01/04/2014 6:42:10 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: KevinB

I stopped reading this screed when the author alleged (and I mean alleged!) that men were no longer interested in attractive women. They only appreciate intellectual, “engaged,” politically active women. What a farce!


21 posted on 01/04/2014 6:46:36 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: ToastedHead
I hope he doesn’t feel this way about me.

The fact that you wrote that indicates to me you are not the kind of person who should be concerned. My ex craved control.

22 posted on 01/04/2014 6:47:05 AM PST by KevinB (Barack Hussein Obama: Proof-positive that affirmative action does not work.)
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To: miss marmelstein
They only appreciate intellectual, “engaged,” politically active women.

To wit: William Jefferson Clinton. LOL!

23 posted on 01/04/2014 6:49:14 AM PST by KevinB (Barack Hussein Obama: Proof-positive that affirmative action does not work.)
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To: miss marmelstein

I confess I am reading the comments first before the article. If she honestly believes that, I have a bridge I could sell her. Heck I have a fire sale on beachfront property in Minnesota. Good tomorrow only.


24 posted on 01/04/2014 6:50:44 AM PST by PrincessB (Drill Baby Drill.)
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To: raybbr
The first comment at the site is a pleasure to read. He eviscerates this bimbo.

Thanks for pointing that out. Game, set, match!

25 posted on 01/04/2014 6:54:28 AM PST by awelliott (What one generation tolerates, the next embraces....)
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To: PrincessB

She does say that. Ugly women pretending times have changed. Nothing changes with men, lol!


26 posted on 01/04/2014 6:58:28 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ho-hum, another female who knows what’s best for men, and that’s to be more like her. Self-serving, politically motivated psychobabble.


27 posted on 01/04/2014 7:06:05 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

feminism convinced women its ok to enjoy free casual sex

and decades later, these same women count the number of people they’ve been with in the hundreds.

yea... that’s every guy’s dream... to have women be whores. just awesome
/sarc

sorry, i find it radically repulsive


28 posted on 01/04/2014 7:06:32 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Paglia was right.

Real women don’t pine over Nancy Boys like Obama or Pajama Boy.
And they don’t want to be men either.


29 posted on 01/04/2014 7:07:06 AM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: raybbr
The first comment at the site is a pleasure to read. He eviscerates this bimbo.

Yep, that was indeed most enjoyable.

I'll have to check back to see whether Ms. Page responds directly to that stinging rebuke.

30 posted on 01/04/2014 7:09:48 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Camille would have to have assumed room temp for a couple of years to allow her IQ to drop to the sum of the entire Time staff.

Time is a joke.

Camille is a treasure.


31 posted on 01/04/2014 7:11:26 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Read RealityCHECK’s response to this woman! It is amazing! He takes her out and stomps on her!


32 posted on 01/04/2014 7:19:48 AM PST by Dudoight
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Feminism, being a sub-division of political correctness, is as evil as the entirety of PC.


33 posted on 01/04/2014 7:24:15 AM PST by lurk
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To: KevinB

>> My wife wanted to be a man ...

Same here - mine wanted to be able to do all the cool stuff that all us guys did. And she did it in spite of her sex. She’s now 66, retired as a Boeing 747 captain two years ago, and plays every summer on a co-ed softball team.

Been with her 33 years; have loved every minute of it. Sorry it wasn’t the same with your marriage.


34 posted on 01/04/2014 7:25:01 AM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: Da Coyote

Agreed; Camille is a treasure.

Check out the sexual economics study by Roy Baumeister and Kathleen Vohs:
Sex as Female Resource for Social Exchange in Heterosexual Interactions.
Bottom line: Cheap sex for guys.(Some revolution, huh?)


35 posted on 01/04/2014 7:32:05 AM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: sten

I always said abortion was a man’s dream come true. Free sex, no consequences.


36 posted on 01/04/2014 7:33:22 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: TexasCajun

Interestingly, I understand Paglia and Limbaugh are something of friends.


37 posted on 01/04/2014 7:34:57 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Before focusing on reproductive rights, Page worked in the editorial departments of Glamour and Ms. magazines, as an assistant to Gloria Steinem, as executive director of the National Organization for Women’s New York City Chapter, ran a campaign for a woman candidate for Governor of New York, and edited The Smart Girl’s Guide to College, the first in what now is a genre of Smart Girl guides.


38 posted on 01/04/2014 7:37:49 AM PST by kcvl
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To: miss marmelstein
Come now, Mary Wollstonecraft was the mother of women's rights. Her Vindication of the Rights of Woman was written 14 years before John Stuart Mill was even born!
39 posted on 01/04/2014 7:39:22 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When did morality die? Answer: The late 60’s and early 70’s when women “threw off their aprons,” sent their children to day care and burned their bras, then went out in the world free of their natural duties to raise and nurture a family while the man worked and protected all.

Of course, they had to adjust their attitude to hate men too. It came with the territory. From there it has become a downward spiral of morality.

We now have reached the point that (thanks to women) political correctness and fairness dictates that queers marry and adopt children and that this year children can simply select the sexual preference of the day and boys can take showers and use the bathroom with the girls if they wish and vice-verse.

There is a little ray of hope left and that is there are still some feminine women and masculine men left in the gene pool and hopefully will be the “stock” to restock the herd of endangered families.


40 posted on 01/04/2014 7:40:37 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: The_Reader_David

Whatever.


41 posted on 01/04/2014 7:43:32 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: 2banana

***Feminism Is the Best Thing That Ever Happened to Men for easy sex. ***

Well, it sure did not help me! :-( Now I’m too old to try.


42 posted on 01/04/2014 7:45:53 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: The_Reader_David
Interestingly, I understand Paglia and Limbaugh are something of friends.

IIRC years ago some libtards thought it would be a joke to sit them together at some dinner. they got along great but i doubt anyone else at the table got a word. it would be a hoot to be at that table but i would need a transcript to keep up.

43 posted on 01/04/2014 7:50:49 AM PST by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Feminism allowed men to get all the sex they wanted with no strings attached.

Get your girlfriend pregnant - don’t marry her, just pay for the abortion.

She want’s the kid, well, that’s her problem now. No need to stick around because now women are capable of supporting themselves with a man.

I’ve often thought that it was a man behind the whole idea of feminism.


44 posted on 01/04/2014 8:00:55 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

That’s not a man. That’s a deadbeat bum.


45 posted on 01/04/2014 8:03:01 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: The_Reader_David
Interestingly, I understand Paglia and Limbaugh are something of friends.

The story goes something like this: Limbaugh and Paglia were invited to some dinner thingy. So, some mischievous organizers thought it would be cool to have those two sit at the same table anticipating a harsh exchange of words. Limbaugh and Paglia started talking and Rush pulled out a cigar and offered her one. She took it and they both enjoyed their cigars in decent conversation. Oops, that was not suppose to happen. Paglia is as strange but she is one of the few honest liberals. You could actually have a meaningful conversation with her.

46 posted on 01/04/2014 8:22:47 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: TADSLOS

But it allowed those bums a good cover.


47 posted on 01/04/2014 9:23:08 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

Sure does, and we are a weaker nation for it. We have a nation of hot coco sippin’, jammy wearin’ homos more interested in interior design than stepping up and being men.


48 posted on 01/04/2014 9:32:19 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: raybbr

Wow! That first comment at the site is INDEED a beauty! I saved it for frequent re-reading.


49 posted on 01/04/2014 9:49:51 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, that washing machine was far less important than being allowed to murder babies in the womb...

1880’s RESIPE FOR WARSHING CLOTHES

Build fire in backyard to heat kettle of rain water. Set tubs so smoke wont blow in eyes if wind is pert. Shave one hole cake of lie soap in boilin water.

Sort things, make 3 piles

1 pile white,

1 pile colored,

1 pile work britches and rags.

To make starch, stir flour in cool water to smooth, then thin down with boiling water.

Take white things, rub dirty spots on board, scrub hard, and boil, then rub colored don’t boil just wrench and starch.

Take things out of kettle with broom stick handle, then wrench, and starch.

Hang old rags on fence.

Spread tea towels on grass.

Pore wrench water in flower bed. Scrub porch with hot soapy water.

Turn tubs upside down.

Go put on clean dress, smooth hair with hair combs. Brew cup of tea, sit and rock a spell and count your blessings

http://kathleenbittnerroth.com/2010/06/1880s-recipe-for-washing-clothes/


50 posted on 01/04/2014 9:53:39 AM PST by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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