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Sorry, Camille Paglia: Feminism Is the Best Thing That Ever Happened to Men (Just weird)
Time Magazine ^ | December 18, 2013 | Cristina Page

Posted on 01/04/2014 6:17:14 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Men today are what feminism has always pined for and worked toward—and the happy surprise is that men wouldn't want to go back either.

Camille Paglia’s perennial skewering of feminism is now so near tradition it deserves its own greeting card. This year, in her article entitled, “It’s a man’s world and it always will be,” Paglia argues that men have and always will be the shapers of society while women have and always will play only a supporting role. She even claims men are responsible for women’s liberation—assigning them near full credit because they invented “labor-saving devices” that “liberated women from daily drudgery.” While bestowing this honor, she makes no peep about the likes of Margaret Sanger or the well-known “women’s movement” and their role in saving women from the daily drudgery of, say, unintended pregnancy. While neither is delightful, when wagering on which women needed more freedom from—unchecked pregnancy or manual dish cleaning—my money is on Sanger.

Paglia claims that feminism is set on “stereotyping, belittling or demonizing men.” Yet the research on men suggest their lives have improved immeasurably as a result of feminism. By all appearances, feminism has been the lead designer of the modern man who is not only the product of feminism but arguably the greatest beneficiary of it, too.

Women’s ascent into the workplace has not diminished men but has freed up space in the family for a more involved father—a position more fulfilling than any at the office....

(Excerpt) Read more at ideas.time.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; feminism; margaretsanger; paglia
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To: The_Reader_David

Whatever.


41 posted on 01/04/2014 7:43:32 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: 2banana

***Feminism Is the Best Thing That Ever Happened to Men for easy sex. ***

Well, it sure did not help me! :-( Now I’m too old to try.


42 posted on 01/04/2014 7:45:53 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: The_Reader_David
Interestingly, I understand Paglia and Limbaugh are something of friends.

IIRC years ago some libtards thought it would be a joke to sit them together at some dinner. they got along great but i doubt anyone else at the table got a word. it would be a hoot to be at that table but i would need a transcript to keep up.

43 posted on 01/04/2014 7:50:49 AM PST by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Feminism allowed men to get all the sex they wanted with no strings attached.

Get your girlfriend pregnant - don’t marry her, just pay for the abortion.

She want’s the kid, well, that’s her problem now. No need to stick around because now women are capable of supporting themselves with a man.

I’ve often thought that it was a man behind the whole idea of feminism.


44 posted on 01/04/2014 8:00:55 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

That’s not a man. That’s a deadbeat bum.


45 posted on 01/04/2014 8:03:01 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: The_Reader_David
Interestingly, I understand Paglia and Limbaugh are something of friends.

The story goes something like this: Limbaugh and Paglia were invited to some dinner thingy. So, some mischievous organizers thought it would be cool to have those two sit at the same table anticipating a harsh exchange of words. Limbaugh and Paglia started talking and Rush pulled out a cigar and offered her one. She took it and they both enjoyed their cigars in decent conversation. Oops, that was not suppose to happen. Paglia is as strange but she is one of the few honest liberals. You could actually have a meaningful conversation with her.

46 posted on 01/04/2014 8:22:47 AM PST by VRW Conspirator ( 2+2 = V)
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To: TADSLOS

But it allowed those bums a good cover.


47 posted on 01/04/2014 9:23:08 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

Sure does, and we are a weaker nation for it. We have a nation of hot coco sippin’, jammy wearin’ homos more interested in interior design than stepping up and being men.


48 posted on 01/04/2014 9:32:19 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: raybbr

Wow! That first comment at the site is INDEED a beauty! I saved it for frequent re-reading.


49 posted on 01/04/2014 9:49:51 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, that washing machine was far less important than being allowed to murder babies in the womb...

1880’s RESIPE FOR WARSHING CLOTHES

Build fire in backyard to heat kettle of rain water. Set tubs so smoke wont blow in eyes if wind is pert. Shave one hole cake of lie soap in boilin water.

Sort things, make 3 piles

1 pile white,

1 pile colored,

1 pile work britches and rags.

To make starch, stir flour in cool water to smooth, then thin down with boiling water.

Take white things, rub dirty spots on board, scrub hard, and boil, then rub colored don’t boil just wrench and starch.

Take things out of kettle with broom stick handle, then wrench, and starch.

Hang old rags on fence.

Spread tea towels on grass.

Pore wrench water in flower bed. Scrub porch with hot soapy water.

Turn tubs upside down.

Go put on clean dress, smooth hair with hair combs. Brew cup of tea, sit and rock a spell and count your blessings

http://kathleenbittnerroth.com/2010/06/1880s-recipe-for-washing-clothes/


50 posted on 01/04/2014 9:53:39 AM PST by Don W (Know what you WANT. Know what you NEED. Know the DIFFERENCE!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Camille Paglia IS a treasure...

One more interesting thing to note is her defense and support of Gov. Sarah Palin. Though she disagreed w/the McCain stance on politics (Paglia is a life long Dem) she FIERCELY defended Palin from the classist, mysogynist attacks she was getting from the left and right. Paglia is very critical of the Ivy League group think and of the looking down upon the working/tradesman classes.

I ll admit I have to use the “definition” function on my iPhone when I read her writings (a lot of unique wordage to say the least) but her theories are honest and insightful. And, she HATES all things Clinton:)


51 posted on 01/04/2014 9:59:38 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom ( Just because you are paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...n)
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To: miss marmelstein
"I stopped reading this screed when the author alleged (and I mean alleged!) that men were no longer interested in attractive women. They only appreciate intellectual, “engaged,” politically active women. What a farce!"

When your are far from being an attractive woman this is what you say.

52 posted on 01/04/2014 10:07:30 AM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: QBFimi

As an Old Person watching the interactions of young men and women, one of my Favorite Pass times.

Women running around half naked isn’t all that new in history, see string skirts, the times have changed but the methods haven’t.


53 posted on 01/04/2014 10:23:15 AM PST by Little Bill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, men who wear earrings in their ears, and pinkie rings on both hands, who do not open car doors or protect their women, who cowardly use slurs against others, but complain to high heaven when one word is said about them, who love to slander strong conservative women, and think that refusing to apologize is an act of strength, who don’t marry any more, but have a bevy of women waiting in the wings, etc. Yeah, this is liberation. You take out personal responsibility and you have wimpy, sexually confused males. Most do not deserve to be called men.


54 posted on 01/04/2014 11:12:46 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: Islander7
I noticed that a long time ago, that men seem to look like boys longer these days. I mean, compare the male movie stars of the golden era to the male stars of today. Back then, it was Gable, Bogart, Tracy, the Duke-heck, even Robert Taylor looked more manly. These days it's Di Caprio and the whole lot of Peter-Pans whose names I can't recall because I don't watch them and they're indistinguishable.

Are they putting something in the water?

55 posted on 01/04/2014 11:34:18 AM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: ToastedHead
I ask him for cash when I need it.
I let my wife give me cash, until my young son asked me if I worked for Mom. I didn’t think that sort of confusion was healthy, so I put a stop to it by simply taking the time to get to the Credit Union myself. And simply explaining why to my wife when the subject came up.
Some things we do for the sake of conventional appearances. I’m sure your husband is the one who pays in a restaurant even tho the money came from your paycheck . . .
In any event, society does not need colleges to be admitting more women than men. You don’t want your son to go into that situation by default, because not every woman would be wiling and able to finesse the situation as well as you do. And all prior history proves that it is not a necessary condition of society . . .

56 posted on 01/04/2014 11:48:28 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion ("Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

My husband grew up in the same kind of family I did, where college was the default, with or without a plan. Looking back he says he had no business going to college right out of high school, and he wishes he had pursued a trade.

My daughter has asked me if Daddy would give me money to buy her something. The very first time, it did bother me. Then I remembered I do not remember much of age 6. Someday she’ll figure it out.

We won’t force my son into college if its not his thing. Or my daughter. All I ask is for a plan of action. Currently they both plan on being Power Rangers.


57 posted on 01/04/2014 12:09:13 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Women’s ascent into the workplace has not diminished men but has freed up space in the family for a more involved father—a position more fulfilling than any at the office.

It has led women to think of their husbands as dispensable, witness the divorce rate now versus fifty years ago.

At whatever point her girlfriends tell her "you can do better", she'll dump him (women initiate about 70% of divorces), belatedly discover that no, she CAN'T do better after she hits 40, and then spend the next decade or more trying to make the ex-husband miserable, including denying him access to his kids.

Feminist thought has also made women think they can "have it all", party with a succession of "alpha males" who will sleep with her as long as she's in her 20's and not demanding commitment, in the expectation that somebody acceptable will marry her in her 30's when her biological clock starts clanging.

58 posted on 01/04/2014 12:22:09 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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