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Is Lovie enough to fill the seats?
The Tampa Tribune ^ | Joe Henderson

Posted on 01/04/2014 7:07:59 AM PST by 4Runner

The first rule of public relations disasters is to change the narrative as quickly as possible. With that in mind, I’ll give Family Glazer a cookie for their rapid response in turning the 4-12 stench that was sooooo last season into a Loviefest.

Well done.

New coach Lovie Smith is a proven winner with local ties, and having a team that competes for the playoffs every year would certainly be refreshing.

Call me jaded, though, on at least one big point. I’m not sure even winning automatically will fill Raymond James Stadium every Sunday and beyond. I think fans are going to cheer with their hearts but stay skeptical with their wallets, at least for a while.

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To: Kozak
I made this the other day and emailed it to all my friends who are Bears fans. LOL! They were NOT happy. You won't find may Bears fans who are. Channel 5 here in Chicago did a poll the other night on the news, asking if the Bears made a good decision to re-sign Cutler. 68% said NO, 32% said Yes.


21 posted on 01/04/2014 8:54:56 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

Smith wasn’t the GM, Jerry Angelo was in charge of those drafts that didn’t bring in enough good players, he got fired too.


22 posted on 01/04/2014 8:54:59 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: Kozak

As a Viking fan, I was glad to see Tampa hire him, so he doesn’t come here.


23 posted on 01/04/2014 8:55:39 AM PST by Fireone (Impeach and imprison, NOW! Treason and murder are still crimes.)
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To: discostu
And Lovie did go 10-6 the year he got fired

Last year the Bears were simply the SECOND BEST team in the NFC Central. Go look at the stat's.

One of the things that got Lovie Smith fired was the fact that he was 1-0 against the Green Bay Packers. Ask any Chicago Bears fan -- that's not acceptable. Especially when you can't make the Playoff's without beating the Pack.

You really think .556 isn't that bad? I don't know what job you're in, but if I was only right 50% of the time I'd get FIRED. Thankfully for Chicago Bears fans, that's what happened to Smith. The Bears SHOULD HAVE fired him 3 years ago, but the milquetoast McCaskey family was afraid of being called RACISTS by Jesse Jackson. They had to let the clamor for Smith to get fired build before they did it.

24 posted on 01/04/2014 9:01:06 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: discostu

True, the GM brings in the players but it’s the job/responsibility of the Head Coach to tell the GM what types of players he needs to field a winning team, is it not?


25 posted on 01/04/2014 9:02:01 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative
Correction: One of the things that got Lovie Smith fired was the fact that he was 1-9 against the Green Bay Packers.
26 posted on 01/04/2014 9:02:41 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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Lovie Smith changes coordinators like other head coaches change socks.

It’s never his fault, it’s always his offensive or defensive coordinator’s fault. And if his coordinator is too good, he’ll get rid of him to - see Ron Rivera.

Lovie Smith is not a good NFL Head Coach.


27 posted on 01/04/2014 9:02:44 AM PST by CrosscutSaw
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To: usconservative

10-6 isn’t a bad record, yeah they missed the playoffs, but that happens, it takes a lot of bad luck for 10-6 to land you 3rd in the division. And it’s the NFC North.

It isn’t that bad. Sports isn’t like regular jobs. For one thing the entire league is structured to push teams TO a 500 record, that’s what the whole parity “any given Sunday” thing is all about, every team having a shot in every game. So being over 500 for a career means being BETTER than the goal of the sport.

They should have fired him 3 years ago?! You mean the year they went 11-5 and made it to the conference finals and probably would have won the game if the QB hadn’t gotten hurt? Really? I think your hatred of Smith has some fact based issues.


28 posted on 01/04/2014 9:07:33 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: usconservative

No. It’s the job of the GM to know the talent and whether they’re aging and where to spend the money and who to draft replacements for. The coach and GM need together to figure out what type of team they have and what they’re trying to field, but in the end the GM makes all personnel decisions and if the personnel are bad that’s on the GM not the coach.


29 posted on 01/04/2014 9:09:43 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: discostu
I think your hatred of Smith has some fact based issues.

Nope, facts are what they are. 11-5 was only because they were the best team in the worst division in the NFL and they got LUCKY. Go look at who they played that year along with those teams win/loss records. It was pretty damn hard for the Bears to NOT go 11-5.

.556 career w/Bears is NOT a winning record. Stats don't lie.

30 posted on 01/04/2014 9:10:44 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: discostu

Bottom line: GM and Head Coach “figure it out together” as you said .... so Smith was culpable in bad personnel decisions. You and I can argue back and forth who’s more culpable, but the reality is “both of them.”


31 posted on 01/04/2014 9:13:07 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

You’ve got an excuse for everything. You don’t fire a coach that goes 11-5 and makes it to the conference finals. You just don’t. And only a person that’s got unreasonable hate even thinks that.

Actually 556 IS a winning record, being as winning records are anything over 500. Like you said, stats don’t lie, and the stats say you’re full of crap. Have a nice day.


32 posted on 01/04/2014 9:13:27 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: usconservative

The bottom line is the GM makes personnel decisions. Actually the bottom line is they both got fired but Angelo is still out of a job which really tells you all you need to know.


33 posted on 01/04/2014 9:14:37 AM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: Snickering Hound
There are teams that have worse problems.

Yeah, what happened to the Texans this year was a surprise to me.

BTW, why does that cheerleader have dirty knees and what appears to be an adams apple? (Nevermind, I don't want to know ...)

34 posted on 01/04/2014 9:14:52 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: discostu
but Angelo is still out of a job which really tells you all you need to know.

Yes, it says quite a bit. But then, Lovie Smith's the Buc's affirmative action hire as I said above.

You a Buc's fan?

35 posted on 01/04/2014 9:15:55 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: 4Runner
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Your financial stats are remarkable, and underscore what's "really happening" to U.S. professional sports, especially the MJB and the NFL.

These folks are literally awash in "obscene" amounts of money.

Don't get me wrong. They're capitalists, and have every right to run their businesses and offer salaries as high as they wish.


Unfortunately, they don't recognize that with every fired (failed) coach who leaves with an "insane" 15 million in his pocket ...

the rift between "normalcy" and the these Mega-Millionaires is becoming more like "The Wolf of Wall Street".

This cannot continue forever, and won't.



My spouse visited The Mall today. It was empty.

Average middle-class American families are increasingly "broke".

And those with "canceled" Health Insurance, thanks to that "Sodomite Bastard from Kenya", are totally screwed.



And like the ill-fated Titanic, the "band plays on".



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36 posted on 01/04/2014 9:49:16 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Swine Piss be upon the Sodmite Obama, and his Child-Rapist False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: 4Runner
Lovie Smith will NOT take Tampa to the PLAYOFFS next season, or any season.

WHY?... Because if you can't do it with Chicago then the odds of doing it in Tampa are far less. Tampa has ALWAYS been burdened with negative issues that no coach has been able to overcome.

Smith will make a lot of money but will NOT overcome the negative issues anymore than coach Schiano did.

37 posted on 01/04/2014 9:52:03 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: usconservative; discostu

That year the Bears were in the NFC title game there was an interesting anomaly...the team they beat to get there, the Seattle Seahawks, were statistically the worst playoff team in NFL history.


38 posted on 01/04/2014 11:21:38 AM PST by Borges
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To: VideoDoctor

Tampa Bay won a Superbowl only a dozen years ago.


39 posted on 01/04/2014 11:23:02 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

But the Seahawks had beaten the Saints in the WC round to advance. You don’t get to pick your opponents, you just gotta beat em.


40 posted on 01/04/2014 12:00:28 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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