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Boy Scouts announce annual membership fee increase for 2014, raising questions . . .
dallas news ^ | Sept. 3, 2013 | Scott K. Parks

Posted on 01/04/2014 12:42:35 PM PST by T Ruth

[T]he BSA, which is based in Irving, announced last week that it is raising annual membership dues from $15 to $24 per Scout — a 60 percent increase — beginning Jan. 1, 2014.

Chief Scout Executive Wayne Brock . . . and BSA staff did not mention how much revenue might be lost from the defection of conservative families that leave the organization because of recent membership changes that allow [homosexual] youth to be Scouts.

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The BSA once boasted of five million members back in the 1950s when the United States’ population was about half of what it is today. BSA now claims 2.2 million members. And it will be interesting to see whether headquarters will openly acknowledge how many members remain after annual registration for 2014.

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1 posted on 01/04/2014 12:42:36 PM PST by T Ruth
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To: T Ruth

Like the guy in Life of Brian who wants to be a woman and have babies, teh gheys don’t want to join scouts as yutes. They want the RIGHT to join scouts as yutes.


2 posted on 01/04/2014 12:45:45 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: T Ruth

No doubt, donations are down. Adding high heels and makeup to the uniform made expenses sky rocket.


3 posted on 01/04/2014 12:45:54 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: T Ruth

Membership, membership, membership is the glue for organizations like this. Change the type of people you are encouraging to join and watch the defections.

I would surmise that outside of the joy of going on camping trips with pretty young boys - and paying for the s’mores, the gays will not contribute one dime to this organization.


4 posted on 01/04/2014 12:47:50 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: T Ruth

The biggest change will be the renaming of BSA to the more accurate “Rump Rangers.”

New merit badges will include:
* interior decorating
* limp-wristed ring toss
* Reach around manners

The following will be discontinued:
American Business
American Cultures
American Heritage
American Labor
Animal Science
Archaeology
Archery
Architecture
Art
Astronomy
Athletics
Automotive Maintenance
Aviation
Backpacking
Basketry
Bird Study
Bugling
Camping
Canoeing
Chemistry
Chess
Cinematography
Citizenship in the Community
Citizenship in the Nation
Citizenship in the World
Climbing
Coin Collecting
Collections
Communication
Composite Materials
Computers
Cooking
Crime Prevention
Cycling
Dentistry
Disabilities Awareness
Dog Care
Drafting
Electricity
Electronics
Emergency Preparedness
Energy
Engineering
Entrepreneurship
Environmental Science
Family Life
Farm Mechanics
Fingerprinting
Fire Safety
First Aid
Fish and Wildlife Management
Fishing
Fly Fishing
Forestry
Game Design
Gardening
Genealogy
Geocaching
Geology
Golf
Graphic Arts
Hiking
Home Repairs
Horsemanship
Indian Lore
Insect Study
Inventing
Journalism
Kayaking
Landscape Architecture
Law
Leatherwork
Lifesaving
Mammal Study
Medicine
Metalwork
Model Design and Building
Motorboating
Music
Nature
Nuclear Science
Oceanography
Orienteering
Painting
Personal Fitness
Personal Management
Pets
Photography
Pioneering
Plant Science
Plumbing
Pottery
Programming
Public Health
Public Speaking
Pulp and Paper
Radio
Railroading
Reading
Reptile and Amphibian Study
Rifle Shooting
Robotics
Rowing
Safety
Salesmanship
Scouting Heritage
Scholarship
Scuba Diving
Sculpture
Search & Rescue
Shotgun Shooting
Skating
Small-Boat Sailing
Snow Sports
Soil and Water Conservation
Space Exploration
Sports
Stamp Collecting
Surveying
Sustainability
Swimming
Textile
Theater
Traffic Safety
Truck Transportation
Veterinary Medicine
Water Sports
Weather
Welding
Whitewater
Wilderness Survival
Wood Carving
Woodwork


5 posted on 01/04/2014 12:49:20 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: T Ruth

Back in the 50s and 60s, I’d say about 70% of boys were Scouts, mostly those who lived on farms couldn’t join. Now I suspect it will become a sanctuary for misfits who join just because it’s become a place to hang out with other misfits. I love traditions and the Boy Scouts did me a lot of good (as well as teaching me a lot of bad habits), but now I would welcome their demise. When an organization loses its way and becomes something foreign to it’s mission, it’s time for it to go.


6 posted on 01/04/2014 12:50:20 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: T Ruth

“The BSA once boasted of five million members back in the 1950s when the United States’ population was about half of what it is today. BSA now claims 2.2 million members.”

Being a Boy Scout once meant something. Something good and decent. Now it means weak leadership that bends to pressure from homosexual activists and means an acceptance of perversion. The BSA will be lucky to have a million members nationwide in 5 years..


7 posted on 01/04/2014 12:51:27 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2014 and the Crusades 2014?)
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To: freedumb2003

The Rump Rangers will probably keep the Woodworking. Just tweak the format a bit.


8 posted on 01/04/2014 12:51:31 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

You’re funny!


9 posted on 01/04/2014 12:51:34 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

The only thing that the homos will contribute to BSA (aka Rump Rangers) is it’s total degeneration and demise.

No boys from our family will be joining this once proud organization.


10 posted on 01/04/2014 12:54:30 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Everyone knows raising girls is more expensive.


11 posted on 01/04/2014 12:54:59 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Howie66

Is it possible that there are dumb Americans who will contribute their boys to this organization not knowing what is going on? I shudder to think.


12 posted on 01/04/2014 12:57:02 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: T Ruth
Chief Scout Executive Wayne Brock may have announced it to the Top Hands Meeting just "last week", but this is old news. My two units (Boy Scouts and Venturing) rechartered the first week of December at the new $24 rate.

Yes, it shows the financial fallout of the gay issue. First, you have who oppose the new policy dropping out of or no longer financially supporting the BSA. Second, you have corporate sponsors who no longer sponsor the BSA because it hasn't gone all the way to accepting openly gay Scout leaders.

This isn't going to be a quick death. Chartered organizations have the final say on who they accept as leaders, and unless state or other law requires them to accept gay leaders, many chartered organizations aren't going to accept openly gay leaders even if the BSA accepts them.

How does it affect my units? We can control access to our Scouts when we camp alone, but District or Council overnight events are now out of our control - and out of our scheduled program.

13 posted on 01/04/2014 12:57:20 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: bigbob
Yeah, I joined in the 50’s, went on a camp out in a forest I knew well. Scout master, wanted to walk out in the wrong direction. I told the other Scouts he did not know what he was doing and to follow me. they all did. Then the Scout Master ordered them to form a beating line(where two rows of scouts brandishing branches) Ordered me through it twice.

2/3 still followed me out and resigned the next day.

The remaining camped out by our HS later that year, and us revolters loaded up with bear bait(bottles of rotted fish) and raided them throwing it on and in their tents.

Damn that was fun!

14 posted on 01/04/2014 12:58:20 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: T Ruth

I hate to say it, but the reason for declining membership may be the reverse.

It’s too soon to tell whether the stupid, immoral decision to admit OPENLY gay boys to the organization will kill it. It will certainly shake things up. Gay boys could always join, but they had to keep quiet about it, at least while they were on Boy Scout expeditions.

I think the long-term decline happened because so many families no longer want their kids to learn traditional values. The Girl Scouts went over long ago, but the Boy Scouts stayed traditional, and basically Christian. That pleased its remaining members, but likely caused a lot of liberal families to lose interest.


15 posted on 01/04/2014 1:04:21 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: T Ruth

Those opposing the Boy Scouts of America allowing gays to become scout masters —scout or whatever (by court order nonetheless)have a solution —form your own church (congregation) based scouting group. I am sure plenty of guys in these congregations were once scouts. They can do and give everything that the Boys Scouts would give the kids. By the time the lefties catch up to them with lawsuits —it will be a couple of years. So you have a bit of breathing room for a few years....at least I hope.


16 posted on 01/04/2014 1:04:38 PM PST by brooklyn dave ( Dante DiBlasio's Afro for President)
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To: bigbob

From our scouting experience three years ago I can tell you for a fact that that is exactly what is happening. My kids are jocks anyway, the whole experience with those cheap money hungry weirdos was just wrong for us.


17 posted on 01/04/2014 1:08:14 PM PST by Vote 4 Nixon (EAT...FISH...SLEEP...REDUX)
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To: T Ruth

The Progressives have been trying to dismantle this and other faith-based organizations for years and yes, they won a battle against the BSA, but I’ll be damned if knee-jerk emotional reactions to it force me to aid and abet them winning the war.

My son will stay a scout. He’s a better person for it. They all are.


18 posted on 01/04/2014 1:09:20 PM PST by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: T Ruth

Good. They should’ve dropped the corporate sponsors who forced the gay lifestyle on them. Selling out BSA for greed was just plain wrong.


19 posted on 01/04/2014 1:09:57 PM PST by grania
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To: Scoutmaster

Same for our troop. Our youngest is working on his Eagle, after he finishes, we’re done. We’ve only left him in because we know the leadership, are actively involved, and know when they walk, it’s beyond help. Our boys will no longer be doing council events and summer camp is going to revert to our troop only as was one in times past when money was tight. We are blessed that we have a lot of very godly men in leadership and a large troop.


20 posted on 01/04/2014 1:13:29 PM PST by Millicent_Hornswaggle (Retired US Marine wife)
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To: T Ruth
Sodomy Surcharge


My disgust at the cowardice of the BSA exec council knows no bounds.

The 7th edition ('65) Handbook sitting over there on the shelf serves a sad reminder of the heydays of a truly fine organization.

21 posted on 01/04/2014 1:16:00 PM PST by tomkat
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To: HelloooClareece

>>My son will stay a scout. He’s a better person for it. They all are.<<

I assume you also allow your daughter(s) to go on trips with boys they will sleep and shower with?

The new Rump Rangers (previously the BSA) are the same thing.


22 posted on 01/04/2014 1:16:30 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: Scoutmaster

So far there’s nothing about allowing “gay” Scoutmasters.

In a sense, I see a possible opportunity here, however. It’s just such a strongly masculine environment as the Scouts at least had been, that would probably help a limp-wrister Scout learn some manhood. If he was really willing to learn and not be stubborn and force his weakness on everyone else to accommodate. This might end up helping some “gays” in a manner they didn’t anticipate.


23 posted on 01/04/2014 1:17:29 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: miss marmelstein

I was a scout and my sons were scouts but no longer will our family have anything to do with them. That is a fact of life.


24 posted on 01/04/2014 1:20:28 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: T Ruth
Probably squirreling a way a legal defense fund for when the predator pedophile lawsuits begin.
25 posted on 01/04/2014 1:20:41 PM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: stubernx98

Uh, huh.


26 posted on 01/04/2014 1:21:37 PM PST by Washi
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To: T Ruth

I suspect that the liability insurance was increased when they admitted openly homosexuals into their ranks. Lawsuits by parents of molested boys are very expensive.


27 posted on 01/04/2014 1:22:24 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Howie66

Will your grandchildren (or sons, sorry) be joining the new organization?


28 posted on 01/04/2014 1:25:22 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: T Ruth
Boy Scouts announce annual membership fee increase for 2014, raising questions . . .

Sorry misread that as ....anal membership fee...........

29 posted on 01/04/2014 1:25:39 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: T Ruth
The same difficulties and more happened to the Canadian Scout's when they caved-to the gays/progressives.
30 posted on 01/04/2014 1:26:46 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
So far there’s nothing about allowing “gay” Scoutmasters.

I know that.

It appears most posters think the complete collapse of the BSA is a foregone conclusion in the immediate or near future. It isn't. The end is going to be nasty and prolonged, because units control the selection of their leaders.

As a national organization, the Girl Scouts of America went over to the dark side two decades ago, yet there are still exceptional local units because of dedicated, conservative Girl Scout leaders.

The BSA program is still excellent and can continue to provide an excellent program to young men if administered by strong conservative leaders on the local level.

31 posted on 01/04/2014 1:29:25 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: SandRat
The same difficulties and more happened to the Canadian Scout's when they caved-to the gays/progressives.

I can vouch for the truth of that.

32 posted on 01/04/2014 1:31:03 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: T Ruth

You are welcome, America!

33 posted on 01/04/2014 1:32:02 PM PST by Slyfox (We want our pre-existing HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: freedumb2003

My son showers in locker rooms at school. I presume some of the kids are gay in his school. Should I yank him out and home school?

He also showers at the gym. Should I encourage him to stay home and play video games instead?

THIS ISN’T A GAME. This is a war we’re participating in. I’ve seen Progressives, using the divide and conquer strategy, separate different denominations of the churches with this strategy for years while Christians played along and right into their hands.

I’m not playing. I’m fighting. You’re free to do what you will.


34 posted on 01/04/2014 1:33:12 PM PST by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: Cicero

I understand where you are coming from. But please understand: there are no gay children. Poor modern children - who have sexual problems - are being forced at a very young age to “choose” their sexuality. And that form is always gay, gay, gay. Sexuality is so much more complicated than we know. To force children into a biological freak show is not only immoral, I believe it is anti-scientific. Eventually, we will pay for this on a very big scale.


35 posted on 01/04/2014 1:33:15 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

From what I understand about the new organization, probably so. The oldest just turned 6 and his brother is 3.


36 posted on 01/04/2014 1:34:30 PM PST by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: Scoutmaster
143 This isn't going to be a quick death. ...

I agree. The BSA pros estimated back in APR2013 that their worst case scenario would see a loss of 13% of the 2013 membership level.

...How does it affect my units? We can control access to our Scouts when we camp alone, but District or Council overnight events are now out of our control - and out of our scheduled program.

So that means no district/council camporees, no distirct merit badge days, what about your district EBoR?, no council summer camp, no national jamboree, no world jamboree, and worst for you, no Philmont/Northern Tier/FL Sea Base/Summit. I include the High Adventure bases because even though you will oversee your crews on the trail, they will come into contact with other crews, base-camp staff and out-back staff. When I trekked Philmont in 1990, I had a conversation with a college-aged staffer who told me about 2 staffers who were dismissed after being caught in the act. First time I heard the term "packing fudge."

37 posted on 01/04/2014 1:34:48 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: T Ruth

Looks like the homosexual bullies of the gay mafia are going to have to start playing whack-a-mole with straight youth organizations.


38 posted on 01/04/2014 1:35:56 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: T Ruth

Since they gave in to the gay lobby, I hope they go bankrupt.


39 posted on 01/04/2014 1:37:40 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: T Ruth
It's been said that treating rectal syphilis in young boys is both difficult and expensive.
40 posted on 01/04/2014 1:38:09 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: Howie66

Good luck to you are your grandkids! Poor babies - coming into an awful world.


41 posted on 01/04/2014 1:38:40 PM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: T Ruth

Gee. I wonder why?


42 posted on 01/04/2014 1:41:11 PM PST by AdaGray
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To: HelloooClareece

>>My son showers in locker rooms at school. I presume some of the kids are gay in his school. Should I yank him out and home school?<<

Not the same as sleeping over in the same tent.

>>THIS ISN’T A GAME. This is a war we’re participating in. <<

We lost this battle when they went gay. Don’t sacrifice your kids to a hill that now is in enemy hands.


43 posted on 01/04/2014 1:41:48 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: stubernx98
... The remaining camped out by our HS later that year, and us revolters loaded up with bear bait(bottles of rotted fish) and raided them throwing it on and in their tents. Damn that was fun!

And here you are years later bragging about it. Go choke yourself.

44 posted on 01/04/2014 1:46:30 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: freedumb2003

>>Don’t sacrifice your kids to a hill that now is in enemy hands.<<

There has NEVER been a hill in enemy hands I wasn’t willing to fight to take back and there never will be.

EVER.


45 posted on 01/04/2014 1:48:52 PM PST by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: HelloooClareece

>>There has NEVER been a hill in enemy hands I wasn’t willing to fight to take back and there never will be<<

OK, what is your plan to rescue the BSA?


46 posted on 01/04/2014 1:49:31 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Fight Tapinophobia in all its forms! Do not submit to arduus privilege.)
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To: miss marmelstein
I've been involved with the scouts for about 7 years and I know of zero gays in our troop. I'm sure there have been a few boys who were gay but we don't know for sure.

The point is the Boy Scouts aren't a bunch of flaming homos running wild.

We have rules and training for everyone who goes on any outing and I have never had any issues with any gays. The only issues we've ever had is with mothers!

The $24 dues is at the national level and every troop adds their own amount to this so it can be $85 or whatever the troop committee set it at.

Finally, the Troop Committee determines who can be adult leaders and they have the option to block anyone they choose.

47 posted on 01/04/2014 1:49:55 PM PST by america-rules
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To: miss marmelstein
Is it possible that there are dumb Americans who will contribute their boys to this organization not knowing what is going on?

Yes, there are such "Americans", and some are "Republicans".

48 posted on 01/04/2014 1:55:19 PM PST by Theodore R. (People in TX in 2014: Cornball and George P.!)
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To: T Ruth

A month ago, my so. Earned Eagle. A week later, I resigned as Scoutmaster and hung up my uniform forever. On Monday, our troop will hold our first Trail Life USA meeting.

Adventure, character, leadership. That’s what we want for our young men.


49 posted on 01/04/2014 1:55:40 PM PST by cyclotic (Hey BSA-I'm gone. Walk Worthy-traillifeusa.com)
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To: miss marmelstein

50 posted on 01/04/2014 1:56:22 PM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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