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Eric Holder fighting Little Sisters of the Poor ‘tooth and nail’ over contraception
bizpacreview.com ^ | January 4, 2013 | Michael Dorstewitz

Posted on 01/04/2014 2:22:01 PM PST by grundle

One would assume that a lawyer would think twice before suing an order of nuns called the Little Sisters of the Poor, but not Attorney General Eric Holder. Fox News host Megyn Kelly reported that he’s going after them “tooth and nail” on the Friday night edition of “The Kelly Files.”

Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor granted an order on Dec. 31 temporarily restraining the federal government from enforcing Obamacare’s contraception mandate against the Denver-based Catholic order of nuns.

Had Holder’s Justice Department done nothing, the government would have eventually been permanently enjoined from enforcing the mandate against the sisters. But the DOJ is digging in its heels on this one, stating that all the nuns have to do is sign a form and their legal problems will go away, according to Fox News.

“That form is actually a permission slip,” Mark Rienzi, lead counsel for the nuns told Kelly. “That form, under federal law, authorizes and directs other people to provide contraceptives, sterilization and abortion-inducing drugs.”

Despite the public relations fiasco of suing an order of nuns who have cared for poor, elderly people for 175 years, some media on the left are siding with the Justice Department. Slate.com talked of “the spectacle of these plaintiffs [the nuns] trying to weasel out of nothing more onerous than signing a piece of paper,” according to Kelly.

If the form means so little, “You have to ask, why is the Justice Department fighting the nuns all the way to the Supreme Court?” asked Rienzi. “Why on Earth is the government threatening them with huge fines?”

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KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; ericholder; littlesisters; littlesistersofpoor; lsotp; lsp; obamacare; soniasotomayor; zerocare
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1 posted on 01/04/2014 2:22:02 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle
Once again, the Obama administration drops the mask of reasonableness and shows us it's true face: fascism.

The negative PR this will bring to Holder's DOJ is almost worth it. Almost.

2 posted on 01/04/2014 2:24:24 PM PST by Jim Scott
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3 posted on 01/04/2014 2:25:20 PM PST by narses (... unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.)
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To: grundle

The nuns have had trouble with communists before, like the 1930’s in Spain and more recently in South and Central America. Nothing new.


4 posted on 01/04/2014 2:25:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: grundle
A.G. of the U.S. Eric Holder = B@$t@$d, like pResident 0'BlahBlah

5 posted on 01/04/2014 2:26:33 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: grundle

Holder, Obama et al don ‘t appear to fear anyone or anything.......
Why is this?


6 posted on 01/04/2014 2:27:35 PM PST by Guenevere
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To: grundle

Holder could be the nastiest piece of work in this communist administration. But there are so many to choose from.


7 posted on 01/04/2014 2:29:00 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Jim Scott

What we have here is an administration that does NOT
lead by example, the only thing they know is the stick.
Our fore fathers warned us about oppressive government.


8 posted on 01/04/2014 2:29:07 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: grundle
don't ever doubt that the objective here is to FORCE THEM to do something.

The obamacare people could have easily said WE will provide ‘contraceptive care’ for anyone who works for a company that claims a religious exemptions. Then the Nuns could have just claimed a religious exemption, and any employee could have gone elsewhere.

But they didn't -they want to FORCE the church to provide it.

9 posted on 01/04/2014 2:30:00 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: grundle

Government of the thugs, by the thugs, for the thugs.


10 posted on 01/04/2014 2:30:02 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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To: grundle

he fights the Little Sisters of the Poor because he’s figured out, in that brilliant legal mind of his, that they are Christians


11 posted on 01/04/2014 2:30:07 PM PST by faithhopecharity (no)
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To: Jim Scott

I just hope this brings negative PR. That said, I have actually been surprised by how many leftists have even been saying, oh, just let it go.

But Obama and his hench-critters are relentless, and I think they won’t permit any dissent, no matter how relatively unimportant.

Of course, if they drive the Little Sisters of the Poor out of business, they probably already have the death panels lined up for the elderly poor for whom the sisters care. So they won’t even be a “bump in the road” to Obama.


12 posted on 01/04/2014 2:30:53 PM PST by livius
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To: grundle

maybe he will throw the nuns into gitmo after he frees all the Islamic terrorists.


13 posted on 01/04/2014 2:31:14 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: grundle

Old conventional wisdom: The Obama Administration is better at PR than operations.

New conventional wisdom: They suck at PR too.


14 posted on 01/04/2014 2:31:25 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: grundle
Holder's response here (PDF)

The fact that Holder is so adamant that they fill out the form makes me suspect that the form is a trap.

15 posted on 01/04/2014 2:31:49 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: grundle
May Holder occupy the lowest level of Purgatory.
16 posted on 01/04/2014 2:32:17 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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17 posted on 01/04/2014 2:32:40 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: grundle

Moslems are not under ObamaCARE tyranny.

Just non-Moslems.

If they adopt the Koran, Holder and Obama will ignore them.


18 posted on 01/04/2014 2:32:42 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: annalex

If we let them beat us with sticks, it won’t be long
till they use clubs and whips.


19 posted on 01/04/2014 2:33:35 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The nuns have had trouble with communists before, like the 1930’s in Spain and more recently in South and Central America.

French Revolution, too.


20 posted on 01/04/2014 2:37:57 PM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: grundle

Wonder when the Pope will chime in to tell the Sisters to give it up.


21 posted on 01/04/2014 2:38:13 PM PST by EnquiringMind
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To: COBOL2Java

-— French Revolution, too. -—

A favorite of Leftists everywhere.


22 posted on 01/04/2014 2:39:38 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: grundle
Oh no, is he REALLY?!

I have no words....

.

.

For a change!

23 posted on 01/04/2014 2:41:46 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: grundle

I really don’t understand the liberals’ obsession with contraception and their zeal to shove it down every American’s throat, other than they told somebody to do something, and By God, they better do it or else!

What’s the big deal if some insurance plans don’t have contraception?? But this is anathema to the liberals. And I’m sure part of it is forcing the hated Catholics to go against their faith.


24 posted on 01/04/2014 2:42:20 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: grundle
The Little Sisters of the Poor is a Roman Catholic religious institute for women. It was founded in the 19th century by Saint Jeanne Jugan near Rennes, France. Jugan felt the need to care for the many impoverished elderly who lined the streets of French towns and cities.

These women do it all FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.
Hard to beat that.

25 posted on 01/04/2014 2:44:09 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: grundle

Slate accusing the nuns of ‘trying to weasel out’ is disgusting. I sincerely hope that they get their comeuppance in a very public way. Sick Socialists.


26 posted on 01/04/2014 2:47:16 PM PST by originalbuckeye (quality)
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To: COBOL2Java
French Revolution, too.

The Proto Godless Commies.

27 posted on 01/04/2014 2:47:58 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: COBOL2Java
That incident at Compiegne was turned into a opera by Francis Poulenc in 1959. The finale is hair-raising. The opera is a bit static, but once you've seen the finale, you'll never forget it.

Poulenc: "Dialogues of the Carmelites", finale

28 posted on 01/04/2014 2:48:33 PM PST by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I’d like to see this “scrap of paper” holder wants them to sign. You don’t take a case to the SCOTUS over some meaningless form.


29 posted on 01/04/2014 3:05:06 PM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: Jim Scott

I sure hope there is enough “negative PR.” The mainstream media tends to protect Obama.


30 posted on 01/04/2014 3:07:18 PM PST by grundle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep - commies hate nuns.


31 posted on 01/04/2014 3:07:44 PM PST by grundle
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To: Guenevere

Because those with a G-d complex are never afraid of themselves.


32 posted on 01/04/2014 3:08:18 PM PST by grundle
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To: Mr. K

Great post #9. I agree with you - this is all about power and control, not birth control.


33 posted on 01/04/2014 3:09:12 PM PST by grundle
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To: PapaBear3625

Thanks for the link. Of course it’s a trap. You can’t compromise with evil - you will always lose.


34 posted on 01/04/2014 3:10:38 PM PST by grundle
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To: cloudmountain

I don’t really possess the vocabulary or writing skills to express what I think of Obama’s actions in this instance.


35 posted on 01/04/2014 3:11:52 PM PST by grundle
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To: cotton1706

It’s all about power and control.


36 posted on 01/04/2014 3:12:35 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle
I don’t really possess the vocabulary or writing skills to express what I think of Obama’s actions in this instance.

There USED to be a graphic on FR that was a gigantic RASPBERRY. That is PLENTY of "vocabulary" and "writing skills" in that ONE bodacious sound. Doncha think? :o)

37 posted on 01/04/2014 3:19:35 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cotton1706

“And I’m sure part of it is forcing the hated Catholics to go against their faith.”

That’s the main purpose.


38 posted on 01/04/2014 3:22:57 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: grundle

Harrassing nuns. Something he can really throw his heart and soul into.


39 posted on 01/04/2014 3:26:27 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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I’m not a Catholic, but I will stand with them if the political winds shift in an ugly direction.


40 posted on 01/04/2014 3:27:50 PM PST by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: faithhopecharity

Read Psalm 94; it is the cry of the righteous against state-sponsered wickedness.

God will not tolerate those who attempt to force His people to partake of iniquity.

That sort of wickedness that goes unchecked and unrepented will not go unnoticed.


41 posted on 01/04/2014 3:33:03 PM PST by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites.)
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To: grundle
But the DOJ is digging in its heels on this one, stating that all the nuns have to do is sign a form and their legal problems will go away, according to Fox News.

They offered the same thing to Thomas More.

42 posted on 01/04/2014 3:37:48 PM PST by Slyfox (We want our pre-existing HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: Guenevere

I find some satisfaction in hearing Benghazi Barry fears assassination...


43 posted on 01/04/2014 3:46:11 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Slyfox

“all the nuns have to do is sign a form and their legal problems will go away, according to Fox News.”

They offered the same thing to Thomas More.

Great post


44 posted on 01/04/2014 3:51:17 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

bttt


45 posted on 01/04/2014 3:58:41 PM PST by txhurl
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To: EnquiringMind
Wonder when the Pope will chime in to tell the Sisters to give it up.

Got a Pope quote to back up your absurd statement.

46 posted on 01/04/2014 4:10:07 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: grundle
Slate.com talked of “the spectacle of these plaintiffs [the nuns] trying to weasel out of nothing more onerous than signing a piece of paper,” according to Kelly.

It's always "just a piece of paper," the new tax is "just one more dollar," it's "just people who are already here," it's "just a few isolated fraudulent votes."

-PJ

47 posted on 01/04/2014 4:35:07 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
It's always "just a piece of paper," the new tax is "just one more dollar," it's "just people who are already here," it's "just a few isolated fraudulent votes."

And it is always a lie.

48 posted on 01/04/2014 4:40:17 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: grundle

Get Thee To A Gunnery Runnery!


49 posted on 01/04/2014 4:55:36 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: grundle

The nuns’ Messiah is stronger than Holder’s.


50 posted on 01/04/2014 5:13:31 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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