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GOP’s “Duck Dynasty” problem: Why Phil Robertson was a hugely important political story (Unreal)
Salon ^ | January 3, 2014 | Brian Beutler

Posted on 01/04/2014 3:10:38 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hi I'm stupid.

21 posted on 01/04/2014 4:17:16 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
�I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I�m with the blacks, because we�re white trash. We�re going across the field�. They�re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, �I tell you what: These doggone white people� � not a word! � Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues.�

Ditto for me, almost exactly word for word. I'm 68 and from the south, I believe Phil may be a couple of years younger but we had identical experiences.

22 posted on 01/04/2014 4:21:12 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: gorush

The “leaders” were wimps even when we had majorities.


23 posted on 01/04/2014 4:21:57 PM PST by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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To: Graybeard58

He’s 67.


24 posted on 01/04/2014 4:22:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: gorush

We’re still in the majority, barely.


25 posted on 01/04/2014 4:23:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: facedown
"I am increasingly convinced that the writers at Salon take LSD before sitting down to write these pieces."

Their readers definitely ought to as well before reading that farcical drivel.

26 posted on 01/04/2014 4:25:25 PM PST by Edward Teach
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To: Arm_Bears
The GOP has at least two Duck Dynasty-related problems from where I sit: 1) Most of the GOP “leaders” in DC were resolutely silent when it came to supporting Mr. Phil (still are, as a matter of fact); and, 2) These same GOP “leaders” have declared war on the people who did support Mr. Phil and who, by the way, the GOP needs if it expects to win a national election ever again.Well said, and worth repeating.

And these GOP-E-ers are going to push amnesty in the Spring, which will be the death knell of the GOP and of America.

Can a second American Revolution be far behind?

27 posted on 01/04/2014 4:33:19 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, so many wrong things. Like that it is conservatives who oppose birth control, as if the Catholics in this country don’t vote half the time for democrats.

Or that there aren’t already a lot of laws that we provide religious exceptions for.

Like, did Brian never read about “conscientious objectors”? Or notice tax breaks for charitable giving? Or how the Amish are treated by Obamacare? Or how Muslims have special rights for stuff?


28 posted on 01/04/2014 4:38:57 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
[if] religious objectors should be allowed to ignore other laws that supposedly conflict with their beliefs. And that obviously would invite chaos.

Like most of the writers at Salon and other left-wing blogs, the author invites the ridicule of educated people by talking about Constitutional issues when he clearly knows nothing about them.

This question has been dealt with numerous times over the history of the Republic. So many times, in fact, that the Supreme Court has a specific test it requires the Federal Judiciary to apply in cases that involve the conflict between Constitutionally valid statutes and strong Constitutional principles.

The standard is called "Strict Scrutiny." Under Strict Scrutiny, if a Federal court accepts the validity of a Constitutional argument against a law, the sole recourse of the Federal Solicitor is to prove that the state has a compelling national interest in waiving the Constitutional protection.

If the author actually bothered to research the topics he comments on, he would know that.

It will be very difficult for the government to show that there is a compelling state interest in the government contraceptive mandate since: a) birth control is easily and cheaply available outside of medical insurance b) the employee can easily find employment somewhere else without compelling her employer to violate his conscience and c) the government itself has no compelling public health, public safety, prosecutorial, or national security interest in providing contraception.

Again, the author would have known these arguments if he were something other than a brainless commentator talking to other brainless members of his tribe.

29 posted on 01/04/2014 4:50:58 PM PST by FredZarguna (Das is nicht richtig nur falsch. Das ist nicht einmal falsch.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Sad news, folks. Brian Beutler, the Washington correspondent for the Media Consortium and a frequent contributer to this site and this blog, was shot three times yesterday in a failed mugging in Northwest Washington DC. Brian is in the hospital and is expected to make a full recovery. Brian’s editor, Adele Stan, wrote this after visiting Brian in the hospital:

Funny thing about being a journalist: your job is to write about people and mayhem and trauma, but let any of those touch you directly, and it becomes a different game.”


30 posted on 01/04/2014 4:52:21 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Merry Christmas Everyone . . .)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Link?


31 posted on 01/04/2014 5:00:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (A courageous man finds a way, an ordinary man finds an excuse.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I believe the queers got so upset with Phil because he used graphic, accurate but not obscene language to describe what they do to each other and they’d rather have the uninformed, naive person believe that they are all about “hugs” and “warm” feelings for others of their own sex, rather than words like “penis” and “anus” to describe their perversions.


32 posted on 01/04/2014 5:01:04 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2008/07/blogger-brian-beutler-shot-expected-make-full-recovery


33 posted on 01/04/2014 5:05:35 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Merry Christmas Everyone . . .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I found I’d missed a bunch of dumb stories, along with some real news that will ultimately prove fairly unimportant in the grand scheme of things. The final Obamacare delays of 2013, along with the December enrollment figures, are at home in the latter category.

Another case of a lefty "whistling past the graveyard."

He instinctually understands (painfully well, at a gut level) that Obamacare has been an unparalleled disaster to movement leftism that will keep on paying benefits to Conservatives for years to come, but as a devoted leftist he can not possibly bear staring the truth in the face, so he invents fairy tales to keep him and his fellow travelers content and 'gruntled'.

34 posted on 01/04/2014 5:05:45 PM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: FredZarguna

These “journ-O-lists” especially the young ones, don’t know squat about the Constitution. To them it’s just selective enforcement (they’d scream about “Freedom of press” or speech when it fits the agenda) . . .

Or the ends justifying the means (abortion = “privacy”)


35 posted on 01/04/2014 5:15:51 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Merry Christmas Everyone . . .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Since no one has said it yet...
Phil Robertson for President.

I for one, and everyone that I know would vote for him over ANY in the current establishment.


36 posted on 01/04/2014 6:36:13 PM PST by Delmarksman (Pro 2A Anglican American (Ford and Chevy kill more people than guns do, lets ban them))
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To: Farnsworth

You have a problem with FR?


37 posted on 01/04/2014 6:37:07 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The loony left and its enablers in the media are bent on making this part of a referendum against Republican candidates this November.


38 posted on 01/04/2014 6:45:33 PM PST by GSWarrior
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Those offended by Phil’s remarks about homosexuality are, in truth, unwilling to accept that he is merely quoting from scripture.

Romans 1: 24-32 —

24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.


39 posted on 01/04/2014 7:11:49 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Jim Robinson

I have a problem with censorship.
I created an alternate tile and one of your users pitched a tantrum. I have seen other articles with customized titles, so I figured it was OK. If it isn’t, then I expect my suspension to be equally applied. If not, then yes, I do have a problem with FR.
I have been on MANY liberal sites and I didn’t expect such a minor thing to get some peoples panties in a wad.
FR is one of the few places conservatives can go without getting a train pulled on them by liberals. It’s nice to have a forum for similar and like minded people to go, thats the great and rare thing about FR.


40 posted on 01/06/2014 8:39:35 AM PST by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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