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Britain's version of Tea Party rocks political system across the pond
FoxNews ^ | January 04, 2014 | Adam Shaw

Posted on 01/05/2014 4:59:25 AM PST by stevie_d_64

The often stale British political system is being rocked by its very own Tea Party.

The UK Independence Party (UKIP), formed in 1993 opposing Britain’s entry into the European Union, failed to make an electoral dent for a long time. However UKIP has built up steam in recent years and is spearheading a seismic shift in the British political spectrum.

In this year’s local elections – the British version of midterms -- UKIP took a stunning 23 percent of the vote, up from the 3.1 percent they won in the 2010 national election. Their leader, Nigel Farage, is buoyed by their recent success.

“We want to take back our country, we want to take back our government, and we want to take back our birthright,” Farage told FoxNews.com in forthright language rarely seen in British politics.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: british; elections; europeanunion; euroskeptic; euroskepticism; euroskeptics; liberaldemocrats; nickclegg; nigelfarage; reform; teaparty; thirdparty; ukip
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1 posted on 01/05/2014 4:59:26 AM PST by stevie_d_64
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“Cameron has radically overhauled the “Tories,” embracing nationalized health care, fighting for gay marriage, and changing the party logo from the flame of liberty to an environmentally conscious tree. This, UKIP argues, makes them indistinguishable from the left-wing Labour Party and Liberal Democrats.”

This is a key point, something that our domestic Tea Partiers need to embrace and exploit because of the fecklessness of the “conservative elites” in the GOP that basically are attacking a politically philisophical ally since the inception of the American Tea Party movement...

Find the similarities between the liberal democrats and the GOPe’s and the Tea Party can move forward as a party instead of just backing specific candidates...

Just my opinion...


2 posted on 01/05/2014 5:03:35 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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Find the similarities between the liberal democrats and the GOPe’s, so the American Tea Party can move forward as a party instead of just backing specific candidates...

I think this flows a little better...Forget the previous version of this sentence...Muh bad...


3 posted on 01/05/2014 5:05:30 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: stevie_d_64
So I guess this doesn't really signal a sea change. The conservatives have simply changed parties.

I'd prefer that we conservatives take over the Republican Party, and let the Collaborators start their own party.

4 posted on 01/05/2014 5:09:30 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: stevie_d_64
I read the article last night. Interesting the parallels between the situations. The Tories are calling the Tea Party (ironic for a British party to be called that, eh?) racists, radicals, insane, etc.

Clearly established political orders where the parties have found an equilibrium don't like for their sweet little kingdom to be disrupted by those who want them to actually work for the people's interests.

5 posted on 01/05/2014 5:20:06 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

The primaries are where the Tea Party can do the most damage to the GOPe. The GOPe tries to step on the Tea Party but the Tea Party is gum they can’t scrap off their shoes.


6 posted on 01/05/2014 5:24:16 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Where are the RINO’s going to go?


7 posted on 01/05/2014 5:25:31 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
The primaries are where the Tea Party can do the most damage to the GOPe. The GOPe tries to step on the Tea Party but the Tea Party is gum they can’t scrap off their shoes.

Which is the reason the GOPe is so busy changing the rules regarding the primary process.

Nigel Firage is like Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin wrapped up in one feisty package. Many of his speeches are available on the Yoot Tube and well worth watching.

8 posted on 01/05/2014 5:31:16 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: stevie_d_64

The problem with Cameron’s strategy (as with the GOPe) is that it doesnt work. Rather than risk unpopularity by fighting the tide of political correctness, he has tried to show the electorate that he can be nice too by “modernising”. The problem is that the socialists, liberals and progressives still arent going to vote for him, and the conservatives, nationalists and capitalists who oppose the measures are going to be utterly dismayed and turn against him too. So, although in the short term he might gain some votes, in the long term he loses both ways, because he is effectively acknowledging that the liberals, socialists and progressives have won the argument and are right.


9 posted on 01/05/2014 6:08:02 AM PST by Vanders9
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“Which is the reason the GOPe is so busy changing the rules regarding the primary process.”

Bingo!!!

The State Republican Executive Committee here in Texas has been trying to change the rules regarding the “delegate” credentials and selection process for the primariy coming up this year...These SREC committee members 60+ people who are Members of their county party executive bodies is kinda like an exclusive “internal” club of elites that believe they are above reproach...GOPe’s for lack of a better term...

They are doing this without any input from the rank and file of Precinct Chairs that may have a slight problem with these changes to the rules...Not a lot of people throwing penalty flags on this just yet either...

Just another example of how non-inclusive these elites are conducting republican party business from what I, and a few others are seeing...

All the while we get this “We need to build the party BS” from the very people drawing these lines in the sand...


10 posted on 01/05/2014 6:17:05 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: stevie_d_64

Cameron’s “Conservative” Party is trying to fake some conservatism and gin up emotional wedges, talking about tougher rules for inmates in prison and such.

But its the same kind of phony malarkey the Republican politicians in this country spread around exploiting fear and resentment among grassroots conservatives.

The story of UKIP reminds us there is a third party option.


11 posted on 01/05/2014 6:32:09 AM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: stevie_d_64

We need to understand we can fill local committee slots all we want but the party machine maintains an executive committee of insiders to make big decisions in spite of what the grassroots wants.


12 posted on 01/05/2014 6:35:04 AM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: central_va
The primaries are where the Tea Party can do the most damage to the GOPe. The GOPe tries to step on the Tea Party but the Tea Party is gum they can’t scrap off their shoes.

It's 2014 now. Has that worked?

13 posted on 01/05/2014 6:35:26 AM PST by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
"I'd prefer that we conservatives take over the Republican Party, and let the Collaborators start their own party."

I'd prefer we tell the GOP/Republican party (the collaborators as you call them) to go ***k themselves and we conservatives start the "Conservative Party." A party where we lay out our Conservative values and invite ALL "Conservative", regardless their current party, to join us in reversing everything the good ol boys in both the demoncrap and repugnant parties have done. But then that's just me. Others seem to think splintering off a hand full of "Conservative" republicans within the republican party and calling them "Tea Partiers" is enough to overcome the rino establishment within the republican party and in states like Texas it is but nationally it's not and while "The Tea Party Movement" is bigger than the republican party most "Tea Partiers" will NOT vote for either a republican or a demoncrap.

"Conservatives" are neither republican or demoncrap at heart. We are always identified as "Conservatives" before being identified as either a republican, a demoncrap, a libertarian, etc. Have any of you ever heard of the "Reagan Democrats?" The "Reagan Democrats" types are NEVER going to vote for someone like mccain, romney, dole, boehner (pick your rino).

It's JMHO but until we get away from the spineless cowards that have infected and destroyed the republican party we will never have a Conservative in the White House again. Which means.... We're never going to have a Conservative in the White House nor will Conservatives ever control Capitol Hill. The antichrist barack O bamah and his demonic angels will see to that.

14 posted on 01/05/2014 6:42:06 AM PST by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

The Republican party is tainted both by brand and by legal agreement that they not defend themselves against voter fraud.

Better to start a new one in a way that enables a smooth transition, rather than a fractured election cycle or two.


15 posted on 01/05/2014 7:11:10 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: stevie_d_64

From the article: “As a right-wing libertarian, populist movement, there are many comparisons to be drawn with the Tea Party, yet Farage argues that there are differences too, particularly that UKIP wants to take votes away from the Tories, not to reform them.”

I’d compare them to the Ross Perot party in that case, since they aren’t trying to reform the Tories, but leave them completely. In a parliamentary system, that might even work.

This time around in the U.S., however, the Tea Party emphasis is on reforming the GOP, a more fruitful approach that will drive the GOP back to the right, instead of putting the next Clinton in the Presidency as the Ross Perot voters did.


16 posted on 01/05/2014 7:35:44 AM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: stevie_d_64
In 2006 David Cameron dismissed the newcomers as full of “fruitcakes and loonies and closet racists,” and top Tory Kenneth Clark recently branded them as “a collection of clowns.”

Sound like a bunch of "wacko-birds" to me

17 posted on 01/05/2014 7:38:44 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: stevie_d_64

I don’t think it’s the liberal democrats that are analogous to the GOPe, it is the Conservative Party or “Tories”.

Conservative Tories = GOPe
Liberal Democrats = Democrats
UKIP = Tea Party

The Tea Party wants to take its base and challenge the democrats but the GOPe is in the way.

The GOPe cannot win. They can only serve to preserve the status quo or to assist the democrats in locking up power.

The Tea Party can win because among voters they comprise more than half of the GOP, they comprise nearly all of the blue collar conservatives known as the Perot faction (> 6 million voters) that sat out last election, they comprise two-thirds of independent voters and they comprise nearly all the Reagan democrats (> 5 million voters). Then also they will pull in nearly all the GOP once they remove the GOPe from power and funds. The result can be as Ted Cruz stated a “tsunami” on the Beltway ruling class.


18 posted on 01/05/2014 7:53:50 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: stevie_d_64

What is the UKIP’s position on Scotland’s upcoming vote as to whether or not to secede from the UK?


19 posted on 01/05/2014 8:03:03 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: cmj328
It's 2014 now. Has that worked?

We'll see.

BTW here is a list of political parties in the USA, by all means join one:

Libertarian Party
Green Party 
Constitution Party
America First Party		
American Conservative Party 			
American Freedom Party 
American Third Position Party 	
Americans Elect  		
America's Party 
America's Independent Party 	
Christian Liberty Party
American Heritage Party 	
Citizens Party of the United States New American Independent Party 	
Communist Party USA
International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties
Freedom Socialist Party 		
Independent American Party		
Justice Party		
Modern Whig Party	
National Socialist Movement
World Union of National Socialists
Objectivist Party  		
Party for Socialism and Liberation		
Peace and Freedom Party 	
Personal Freedom Party		
Pirate Party
Pirate Party International (observer)
Prohibition Party  		
Reform Party of the United States of America 	United We Stand America 	
Socialist Action 
Fourth International
Socialist Alternative
Committee for a Workers' International
Socialist Equality Party
Workers League 	International Committee of the Fourth International Socialist Party USA 
Socialist Workers Party Pathfinder tendency (unofficial)
United States Marijuana Party		
United States Pacifist Party		
Unity Party of America		
Workers World Party

20 posted on 01/05/2014 8:09:25 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Mears

bfl


21 posted on 01/05/2014 8:10:37 AM PST by Mears
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To: Fiji Hill

http://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/referendum-news/farage-independence-dead-in-the-water.20285722

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/19/ukip-scottish-independence-anti-eu-european-elections-scotland

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-24188255


22 posted on 01/05/2014 8:40:22 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Hostage

Lib Dems are sort of a cross between Labour (liberal, left spectrum) and Conservative (right spectrum) the liberal democrat moniker confuses those outside the UK to think they are like American Dems, they’re actually more like a British libertarian, Labour is the UK version of the Democratic Party.


23 posted on 01/05/2014 9:27:18 AM PST by AnAmericanInEngland
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To: cmj328
Tea Party candidate runs in primary against establishment (liberal)RINO. Tea Party candidate wins primary. Establishment (liberal) Rino refuses to endorse winner and runs as an independent in the general election. Democrat wins election when Republican votes are split.

That's how it works...RINOs and Democrats are happy and our country sinks further into the abyss.

24 posted on 01/05/2014 9:35:53 AM PST by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: central_va
We'll see.

How many more years do you propose we give it?

25 posted on 01/05/2014 10:07:54 AM PST by cmj328 (We live here.)
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To: cmj328

The Tea Party only been around for 3 years, it is having an effect. If you want to take yourself out of the primary process go ahead, but the primaries are the GOPe Achilles heel.


26 posted on 01/05/2014 10:09:37 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: AnAmericanInEngland

Thank you for the correction.

The parallels are:

US GOPe = UK Conservative Party
US Democrats = UK Labor Party
US Tea Party = UK Independence Party
US Libertarians = UK Liberal Democrats

That should cover it.


27 posted on 01/05/2014 10:17:18 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

The Collaborators can defect to the democrats who make up the ruling class. They need not start their own party.

But many will attempt to join back with Tea Party Republicans and they will talk so well; they’re so good at talking. They are chameleons.


28 posted on 01/05/2014 10:22:57 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: cmj328

-— It’s 2014 now. Has that worked? -—

We wouldn’t have Cruz, Haley and Paul without the Tea Party. We should have more gains this time around, even if it is too late.


29 posted on 01/05/2014 10:27:55 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: stevie_d_64

RE: Britain’s version of Tea Party

And which harbor are they going to dump the tea on? :)


30 posted on 01/05/2014 11:47:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

“I’d prefer that we conservatives take over the Republican Party, and let the Collaborators start their own party.”

The fate of third parties has not been good in this country; however, the Republican Party was born out of the northern anti-slavery branch of the Whig Party; a third party in the time of troubles that was the pre- U.S. Civil War 1850s that in many ways has ominous parallels with the events of today.

I’m sure if this happened the GOP would go the way of the Whig Party, that is into the footnotes of American history and the RINOS would join formally the party of socialism - the Democrats.

...and the desks cleared for action as the cannons are rolled out...


31 posted on 01/05/2014 1:22:54 PM PST by Darin1948
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To: stevie_d_64

read the prior post 3 times.....ha.


32 posted on 01/05/2014 1:33:14 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: stevie_d_64

Great Britain is literally committing cultural suicide with their immigration policies. Many hear that phrase uttered and scream racism. Destroying ones identity to avoid being called racist is in my opinion the height of insanity.
I’m not even delving into the false economic stimulus argument on their shores and ours. Sure you ,ay tax to help social security but they small amount they pay out into that future debit is nothing compared to whats taken out at the present time by those same immigrants.


33 posted on 01/05/2014 1:40:00 PM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: stevie_d_64

Forgive me I did not read the article.

similarities between Liberal Dems and GOP? No similarities that I can see

Abortion, gay marriage and the removal of Christ/God from Public square/classroom, those are all things that I am against.

Liberal Dems and moderate Republicans may have those 3 evils as similarities , but nothing I am interested in.

I am not interested 1 bit in any Tea Party whatever, that is not pro life pro family and pro God

I would sooner not vote than be part of such a group


34 posted on 01/05/2014 2:29:18 PM PST by Friendofgeorge ( Palin 2016 or bust)
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To: central_va

“...but the Tea Party is gum they can’t scrap off their shoes...”

Nice...

But I prefer to think of the GOP-e as dog crap that we WILL scrape off of our shoes... along with their democommie buddies.

Just sayin’...


35 posted on 01/05/2014 2:38:09 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: central_va

“...but the Tea Party is gum they can’t scrap off their shoes...”

Nice...

But I prefer to think of the GOP-e as dog crap that we WILL scrape off of our shoes... along with their democommie buddies.

Just sayin’...


36 posted on 01/05/2014 2:38:10 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well there is a lot of EU regulations and forms that they could dump into the English Channel.


37 posted on 01/05/2014 5:44:35 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: SeekAndFind

Well there is a lot of EU regulations and forms that they could dump into the English Channel.


38 posted on 01/05/2014 5:44:40 PM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: stevie_d_64

Nigel Farage of the UKIP is spectacular!!

We need one of him here in the US. I’ve watched all of his videos rabble rousing at the EU. He’s a good study for aspiring conservative politicians in the USA.

For those who don’t pay much attention to the PATHETIC EU, here’s a good primer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGNoZfvRoA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aylLhPHI1TI

Please pass these links around!!


39 posted on 01/05/2014 7:56:57 PM PST by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: stevie_d_64

And that’s why trying to take back the GOP is fruitless. If it wasn’t for the Koch Bros supporting conservatives, we’d already be to the left of John McCain.


40 posted on 01/06/2014 5:01:10 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Nextrush

They (GOP) vote to raise taxes, the debt ceiling, and bailout Solyndra, then sponsor a bill to ban flag burning.


41 posted on 01/06/2014 5:03:42 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: cmj328

No, it hasn’t, and it will not. Because it’s stupid. Institution are the way they are because the people who CONTROL them want them that way. People need to get that. Since the GOP likes how things are going, and they CONTROL what’s happening, how could anything possibly change? Unless we want to start the “Long March through the Institutions” we’d better think of something else.


42 posted on 01/06/2014 5:07:24 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Whats-wrong-with-the-truth

I like Liberty Party. Not Liberalterian, they’ve become the Pot Party. Conservative Party, wrongly, will keep people away. We need a loose coalition of people who simply want liberty.


43 posted on 01/06/2014 5:09:13 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Whats-wrong-with-the-truth

Also, I think Capital Hill is a lost cause. It can only be reformed by a physical purge (I mean physically remove just about everyone there). The States are where we can win, then simply starve DC.


44 posted on 01/06/2014 5:12:28 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

It’s not too late while we’re still armed.


45 posted on 01/06/2014 5:15:05 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: central_va

Where are the RINO’s going to go?>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Join the Dems........there is no difference between RINOs and Dems, except the label.


46 posted on 01/06/2014 5:35:16 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: demshateGod

The revolt has started.


47 posted on 01/06/2014 5:52:15 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: demshateGod

That’s an clear example of the fakery to hustle grassroots conservative voters.

Sponsoring bills that go nowhere or get rejected by the other party so that the emotional issue can become a phony issue for the next election.

Karl Rove called these “wedge issues”.

Emotional issues take us away from the real ones like the bankrupting of the country.


48 posted on 01/06/2014 5:52:57 AM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: central_va

How long have you been a troll for the NWO?


49 posted on 01/06/2014 7:11:20 AM PST by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: stevie_d_64

Yeah. We gave them an inch; they took a mile. It’s time to take back 1000 miles. Eagles up!


50 posted on 01/06/2014 12:18:20 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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